SYS RLZ - Anyone Used These?

[onocoffee]

Came across a different kind of SYS Rail called the RLZ. These are 3D printed rails that allows the SYS3 to slide all the way out, a la SYS AZ drawer.

Looks interesting but they only show the rails working with the Sortainer 89 or the sandpaper M137, both comparatively lightweight to an ETS or DF500.
https://forg3d.store/products/sys-rlz-systainer3-pro-rail-slides?variant=48778393125178

 

[Forged3D]

We use them  ;D

Seriously though, we have tested them with something as large as a TS75 and they are more than adequate to hold the weight.  Also a fully loaded M 89 is not something that is in the featherweight class.  When customers came to us to find a SYS3 rack solution that would allow access to the contents of the Systainer, we attempted to find the best balance between the existing Tanos solutions... Rails and SYS-AZ drawers, with all three being fixtures in our shop.  Like anything in the shop they have their place and their use. 

So how do we use them in our shop...
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[*]We still use the SYS-AZ drawers for tools that are used frequently and stored in Systainers.  This solely has to do with the action of the drawers slides vs the much simpler captive rail setup of our SYS-RLZ.  The SYS-RLZ slide nice, but bearings slide a bit nicer 
[*]For Systainers containing tools or fasteners that we need to get to on a reoccurring but not an everyday basis we use our SYS-RLZ. Both in cabinets built for the standard Tanos rails and cabinets built for SYS-AZ drawers.
[*]For Systainers containing tools or fasteners that we seldom access or that when we do we are always taking the Systainer to the work or bench, those are still on the standard Tanos rails.  This is simply because we haven't chosen to swap them out and if they are still working
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We have had customers purchase them to do a complete swap out of their standard rails, we've had customers purchase them for new workbench or storage build outs and we've had customers purchase them to use them in a similar manner to how we do.  We hope that helps...

Thank you

Forged 3D

PS - Thanks for the question, we might just use this for a blog article in the future cause we love talking about organizing and how we do things in the shop!

 

[cpw]

I had regular rails from Tanos for my toolboxes (L89 org and a L187 toolbox).  It was annoying not being able to access the toolbox without taking it out all the way and sticking it on a flat surface.  I stuck a piece of plywood on some ball bearing slides underneath it, and that was a bit better because I didn't need to clean off my workbench to get at the tools.

I swapped out one of my regular rails with a SYS-RLZ for my L89 toolbox in June.  They work, but I felt they were kind of finicky for the weight (17 lbs).  I didn't even try them with the other one that was 32lbs.  This weekend I actually just got tired enough with it to just change them to use a piece of plywood with holes for the feet routed out on regular ball bearing slides.  That feels a lot smoother if you've got anything heavy.  The plywood and slides lose another inch of space or more space than a SYS-RLZ or regular rail though.

Tanos/Festool should really make SYS-AZs for size L systainers.  My other big wish is L sized drawer systainers.  The Ls fit a lot of things that an M is not suitable for.  When I'm working at a rental or with family/friends, my systainers just go on the backseat or bed of my pickup. 

 

[Packard]

If, instead of storing your Systainers on shelves, you stored them on pull-outs like you find in kitchen cabinets.

For less money (and making no modifications to your Systainers, you would accomplish the same thing.

This is Blum’s offering.  I’m sure there are cheaper options, though Blum’s does look nice.

 

[cpw]

The blum pullout is not dissimilar from my current solution, which is $15 for a pair of slides and the plywood for the shelf rounds to free.  This is the first time I've appreciated the front handles on a Systainer 3.

 

[Crazyraceguy]

That's how all of mine are done, with the exception of adding a front edge that acts as a pull too.
I make them deeper than necessary, to store accessories behind the Systainer. Sandpaper, Dominos, etc.

 

[onocoffee]

Thanks All,
I've been doing shop projects building equipment carts in which I've been using to store the systainers. Been using the Sys Rails and those have worked well enough. However, not having access to the contents unless I pull it completely out is a bit of a drag.

[member=80953]forg3d.store[/member] - I appreciate you taking the time to respond. Your RLZ looks quite compelling - especially since I've got a couple builds done to 418mm to fit the Sys Rails. I was wondering if they can take a heavy load and appreciate the insight.

[member=74278]Packard[/member]  I'm definitely open to a sliding drawer approach. The Blum's are nice.

[member=63643]cpw[/member] Was there a lot of flex with your L89?

[member=58857]Crazyraceguy[/member] I like that deeper drawer approach.

When I get to building the under storage for my workbench, I'd like to have the systainers for the DF500, RO150, ETS EC, and CXS on the uppermost level so I can just pull them out without having to take the whole systainer out.

 

[cpw]

[member=63643]cpw[/member] Was there a lot of flex with your L89?

There was maybe a little flex, but nothing that was bothersome to me.  The bigger issue I had is that if you weren't careful the two sides would not come out together and it would bind up a bit unless I would take more care to get the left and right in sync.

 

[Crazyraceguy]

When I get to building the under storage for my workbench, I'd like to have the systainers for the DF500, RO150, ETS EC, and CXS on the uppermost level so I can just pull them out without having to take the whole systainer out.

Mine are arranged so that the ones that contain the smaller parts are up highest. Those are the ones that I have the most interaction with. Things like track saws, are simple. You usually just remove/replace the saw itself, not much else. Once in a while you have a blade change or need the limit stop.
CXS and OF1010 have lots more pieces inside.