SYS3 DF M 112 with Auer inserts

Magpal

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Just wanted to share an Auer/Festool hybrid solution that I made for those having products from both manufacturers. I have several of their screw containers and really appreciate the quality and functionality/quality vs. cost:
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I went with their boxes/system for general storage of screws and hardware. I have then used the T-loc SYS 1 Box for bringing screws outside of the workshop. I find having two systems a bit annoying since I can not move insert boxes between the systems and thus I wanted to merge the two systems somewhat. I therefore made this custom SYS3 DF M 112 "Auer version" to allow for the Auer containers to fit the Systainer.
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Since the size of the Auer inserts are different from the Festool types, the fit was not without modifications. The width of the Auer inserts was nearly perfect and could not have been a single mm wider. For the height it was also pretty good by coincidence, but I needed to 3D-print a flat bottom and an insert base. As you can see, there is still some unused space in the corners that I need to figure out how to use. Maybe 3D print an insert for bit storage or something. Or print a custom smaller box insert. I will list the steps below if someone is interested in the making such a Systainer:

-A flat base is needed. It can either be done by buying the flat foam insert with a cross routed, but I also found a 3D-printed hard base that worked perfectly. Coincidentally the height combination using this base was perfect, ensuring that the screw containers have a quite tight fit.https://www.printables.com/model/447799-flat-base-for-systainer-3
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-The concept needs a 3D printed insert base that can be found on printables. The Auer inserts are similar to sortimo, so thankfully someone on the 3D-print community had already made this plug-and-play base that was very nice. I attached it using double sided tape. There is a few cuts that needs to be made in order to have it fit the Systainer, but that can easily be seen when assembling. Can be done using a sharp knife.https://www.printables.com/model/307537-grid-for-sortimo-and-stackable-insertboxes-unlimit
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-For the lid you would need a flat EPP insert, or at least something flat. I wanted the "DF" version since I would like to store pencil/ruler/bits etc. in the tray. M112 does not exist in DF version, so I bought the M137 version and swapped the lid with a M112. The regular EPP insert does not fit DF-version, so it needs to be modified a bit on the back, shaving off the excess foam. Just did this with a sharp knife with decent result.

-The reinforcements near the latch needs to be cut so that they do not interfere with the inserts. This has always been annoying with the standard box 1 so this was a plus for the custom one. Just used the fein for this:
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-There is a reinforcement that needs to be cut close to the latch on the base. I just used a sharp knife and cut it flush to the side wall.
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-Voila, a custom Systainer allowing the Auer inserts. Figure below shows the SYS3 compared to the original SYS 1 Box as well as the Auer box vs. Systainer:
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This is one of the things, along 18V batteries and the color coding of screwdrivers should have been standardized by the Germans.
 
Coen said:
This is one of the things, along 18V batteries and the color coding of screwdrivers should have been standardized by the Germans.
You mean like the three incompatible Festool insert box standards?
[cool]

Well, at least the last one uses a semi-sane 25x25 grid.

Hopefully, the fourth standard, to rule them all, will not move to an (x*24)+6 sizes in lieu of vehicular usage patterns.
 
mino said:
Coen said:
This is one of the things, along 18V batteries and the color coding of screwdrivers should have been standardized by the Germans.
You mean like the three incompatible Festool insert box standards?
[cool]

Well, at least the last one uses a semi-sane 25x25 grid.

Hopefully, the fourth standard, to rule them all, will not move to an (x*24)+6 sizes in lieu of vehicular usage patterns.

Yes. I already see too often people jamming in these boxes where they really don't fit, because they got a 2mm taller / wider... etc. one that looked just exactly the same in the store or on screen.

Local Toolstation sells the Auer bins... but as generic brand  [huh]
 
Fantastic work, very neat.

But I have to ask: why not just use the SYS3 M 89 ORG? Was it just for the attic storage?
 
timwors said:
Fantastic work, very neat.

But I have to ask: why not just use the SYS3 M 89 ORG? Was it just for the attic storage?

Not compatible with the Auer bins
 
timwors said:
Fantastic work, very neat.

But I have to ask: why not just use the SYS3 M 89 ORG? Was it just for the attic storage?

Thanks! The reason for not using the M 89 ORG was that the Auer bins are 63mm high and the inner dimensions of the M 89 ORG is 60mm. That makes this combination slightly less effective with regard to height and that was basically the reason for adding the attic storage. Then I can at least store some more screws or fit a ruler/pencil etc.

In addition, the new Festool level fits in the handle and thus you can store everything needed for assembly of various items.
 
I have the same 'issue' I got a few (15) Auer organisers but the lack of rail inserts on the side made me switch to Tanos. Looking back I don't know if I made such a good switch because the Tanos Organiser boxes are way more limited than the Auer versions. Auer has many more different variations in the boxes. I hope Tanos will come up with different size inserts soon.
 
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