SysPort workbench (MFT & CMS) + CMS based Router Table
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Finally got around to just about finishing it. As others will know, there are a few shortcomings on the Festool CMS router module, one being to no fine adjustable way to move both faces of the fence back (just the right hand one can be recessed to use the fence planer style) plus keeping the fence parallel to the front of the module (and the sliding carriage I have) is a manual effort, so since Incra now do a metric version of their fence I have combined it into the design
Router bit storage in the 2 drawers
The Wixey digital readout was another addition.. has been great, wind the bit up to be level with the table.. press the "zero" button and you can quickly set the bit height to the nearest 100th of a mm
OF2200 mounting view
The Wixey does fractions for our imperial friends
Onto the Incra.. I mounted it on pivots so it lifts clear of the table, in case I want to use a template bit and want a free surface.. or want to use the festool fence
Hinge detail
Incra LS positioner deployed, the red lever locks the fence in place one at the desired distance, it has an intermediate position for fine adjustment
Front view of the fence arrangement. I have the "Wonder" fence attached, which in addition allows you to adjust the mouth for the large bits, and move the left and right side back and forth to change their depth
To adjust the depth of the fence wings, there is a wedge system which allows very fine control
The whole fence can be moved back and forth (see the earlier pic with the big red locking lever), this knob is for fine adjusting
Festool fence can be used when the Incra has been pivoted away
I didn't find the CMS plate alignment was perfect with the surrounding CMS framework, so I used some profile below and drilled (carefully!!) through the CMS plate. These two countersunk socket screws bolt into the profile below and pull the whole assembly dead flat
Onto my CMS+ MFT sysport.. I created a cabinet below the CMS mount for my spare module to go in.. simple hinge door
The plate+tool not in use can be stored here
Side view
Drawers extend to allow access to systainers
Drill stand completed
Eagle eyes might spot the Zobo Festool drillbits in the drawer
A couple of random additions... I was struggling to find a good way to put wheels on my workbench and wanted to take advantage of the stability of having the bench on the floor.. but be bale to move it. I found some jockey wheels that have a side wind mechanism (rated at 1000lbs each wheel).. so whilst not pretty, do a good job. Once wound down the castors go below the bench so they can rotate (the winding mech. has a travel of over 12")
2nd pic.. they wheels on ebay were £15 each so not much more that a good quality castor
KAPEX by night!
Router bit storage in the 2 drawers
The Wixey digital readout was another addition.. has been great, wind the bit up to be level with the table.. press the "zero" button and you can quickly set the bit height to the nearest 100th of a mm
OF2200 mounting view
The Wixey does fractions for our imperial friends
Onto the Incra.. I mounted it on pivots so it lifts clear of the table, in case I want to use a template bit and want a free surface.. or want to use the festool fence
Hinge detail
Incra LS positioner deployed, the red lever locks the fence in place one at the desired distance, it has an intermediate position for fine adjustment
Front view of the fence arrangement. I have the "Wonder" fence attached, which in addition allows you to adjust the mouth for the large bits, and move the left and right side back and forth to change their depth
To adjust the depth of the fence wings, there is a wedge system which allows very fine control
The whole fence can be moved back and forth (see the earlier pic with the big red locking lever), this knob is for fine adjusting
Festool fence can be used when the Incra has been pivoted away
I didn't find the CMS plate alignment was perfect with the surrounding CMS framework, so I used some profile below and drilled (carefully!!) through the CMS plate. These two countersunk socket screws bolt into the profile below and pull the whole assembly dead flat
Onto my CMS+ MFT sysport.. I created a cabinet below the CMS mount for my spare module to go in.. simple hinge door
The plate+tool not in use can be stored here
Side view
Drawers extend to allow access to systainers
Drill stand completed
Eagle eyes might spot the Zobo Festool drillbits in the drawer
A couple of random additions... I was struggling to find a good way to put wheels on my workbench and wanted to take advantage of the stability of having the bench on the floor.. but be bale to move it. I found some jockey wheels that have a side wind mechanism (rated at 1000lbs each wheel).. so whilst not pretty, do a good job. Once wound down the castors go below the bench so they can rotate (the winding mech. has a travel of over 12")
2nd pic.. they wheels on ebay were £15 each so not much more that a good quality castor
KAPEX by night!
Festoller said:
The Wonderfence profile if blocked off on one end and the other has a 50mm port (you can see the black 90deg bend on the left hand side for extraction) and where the two fences split to adjust for bit size, there is also an inner lining to improve extraction.
All that said, I tend to extract through the OF2200 as there is a pretty good dust shroud and get a good throughput with a 38mm hose
Unfortunately I am using the OF 1010 and the extraction is really poor.
In addition I didn't buy the Wonderfence upgrade, just the normal fence and since then I am thinking about an extraction solution.
I guess for my setup the Wonderfence will do the trick.
In addition I didn't buy the Wonderfence upgrade, just the normal fence and since then I am thinking about an extraction solution.
I guess for my setup the Wonderfence will do the trick.
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Matt,
Reading throught he thread. Very impressive.
I like what you have done with those profiles. I did have one question though... Where is the 45x90 profile located in the sysport w CMS and MFT? I see you call out 3 pieces and I dont see where they are in the drawing. They are essentially 2 of the same profile togehter??
Thanks,
Mike
Reading throught he thread. Very impressive.
I like what you have done with those profiles. I did have one question though... Where is the 45x90 profile located in the sysport w CMS and MFT? I see you call out 3 pieces and I dont see where they are in the drawing. They are essentially 2 of the same profile togehter??
Thanks,
Mike
FestoolMike said:
Hi, if you look at this post http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-jigs-tool-enhancements/sysport-cms-mft-(work-in-progress)/msg157775/#msg157775 and look for the thicker lines in the isometric line drawing top left you can see the 3 x 45x90 uprights in the middle. I used the 45x90 here so that I two slots next to each other for the rears of the drawer runners to connect into.. if that makes sense?
The 45x90 is essentiall the same as two 45x45 as you say, the only difference is interally, obviously no slots just a void internally where the two join
Matt,
Was looking for some ideas on a router table with an incra ls positioner and fence and came across your design. Fantastic! Can you please tell me where you got the pivots for the incra or how you made them
"so it lifts clear of the table, in case I want to use a template bit and want a free surface.. "
I need to do the same thing with mine.
Thanks!
James
Was looking for some ideas on a router table with an incra ls positioner and fence and came across your design. Fantastic! Can you please tell me where you got the pivots for the incra or how you made them
"so it lifts clear of the table, in case I want to use a template bit and want a free surface.. "
I need to do the same thing with mine.
Thanks!
James
Mattfc,
I plan to make a similar table for my MFT (1080) and am going to use your design. Before doing so, however, I have a few questions.
1) I assume that your table is sized for an MFT/3 (plus CMS) and not a 1080..... Obviously, I'll need to measure my 1080 to see if the dimensions are the same.
2) Do you have any issues with way you mount the MFT to the adjustable levelers that protrude from the extruded aluminum? Have you thought of alternative ideas for more rigidly attaching the MFT to the extruded aluminum?
3) Does anyone have any suggestions on where I could buy the Extruded aluminum? I bought T-slotted aluminum from an online company a number of years ago that provided an online shopping cart where you could order the aluminum (to exact size) and specify machining operations (with running costs in the shopping basket), etc. Unfortunately, I can't remember the company URL or can't find anyone with this service anymore.... 8020 and faztek seem to be manufacturers/distributors and/or don't offer the same type of service.
Thanks in advance.
I plan to make a similar table for my MFT (1080) and am going to use your design. Before doing so, however, I have a few questions.
1) I assume that your table is sized for an MFT/3 (plus CMS) and not a 1080..... Obviously, I'll need to measure my 1080 to see if the dimensions are the same.
2) Do you have any issues with way you mount the MFT to the adjustable levelers that protrude from the extruded aluminum? Have you thought of alternative ideas for more rigidly attaching the MFT to the extruded aluminum?
3) Does anyone have any suggestions on where I could buy the Extruded aluminum? I bought T-slotted aluminum from an online company a number of years ago that provided an online shopping cart where you could order the aluminum (to exact size) and specify machining operations (with running costs in the shopping basket), etc. Unfortunately, I can't remember the company URL or can't find anyone with this service anymore.... 8020 and faztek seem to be manufacturers/distributors and/or don't offer the same type of service.
Thanks in advance.
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Squasher said:
Squasher,
I stumbled onto a trick with 8020. They don't sell direct as a rule, only thru distributors as you noted. They do, however have an eBay store, ostensibly for "surplus" but I am seeing more stock items added all the time.
The trick is to order whatever you can thru the eBay store from the inventory they have listed online. After that you contact them thru eBay and give them a list of the other materials you want (their entire catalog is available online, along with a price list you can download). They will add those items to your eBay order and issue you a combined invoice on eBay.
Hope this helps.
RMW
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Squasher said:
The MFT 1080 is both wider and longer than the MFT/3, but lower.
Very nice job Mattfc! The stuff looks great.
rookie08 said:
This is the link to the hinges
http://www.aluminium-profile.co.uk/acatalog/Aluminium_Profile_Joints.html
It's a UK company, think you have 8020 in the US who must do similar, else Bosch Rexwroth how make most the stuff KJN sell
richard.selwyn
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Check out the blue tooth drill from Bosch in the link below. It records how many screws you've driven etc. scary.
Richard
Richard
mattfc said:
