Systainer cable holder mod

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This is a very simple and easy fix to something that has been annoying me for a little while. You see the whole point to the "Plug-it" cable is that you only need one cable to use any of your tools.

This is a great idea and still one of Festools best, however I found this happening to me.

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Well now if I have to take the cable out anyway every time I want to use the tool I might as well use that cable. Kind of making that aspect of plug-it redundant.

So I set about fixing the problem. "Where could I put the cable without it interfering with me taking the Festool out and somewhere that is not fully utilised?" is what I thought. I then proceeded to open the Systainer and hit me like a brick to the head "The lid!"

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This was the challenge.

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This is what it looked like after the extras were taken off.

Then I noticed these:
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And I thought that is the perfect place to start.

Next up was how to hold the cable without messing with the lid too much. I tried a couple of bent screws but they didn't work too well.

So I grabbed one of these:
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Screwed it in and it seemed to fit perfectly.

Note: be careful when screwing in, I found that the plastic was stressing/going white with the size of cup hook I was using and I would guess that it wouldn't take a much bigger one. I used a 30mm (1.18 inch) cup hook.
Also don't screw it in too far. On my test run with a spare systainer I found the original screw I used could poke through the top of the systainer.

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It ended up looking like this.

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The test run seemed to go well.

At this point I was worried that either the cup hooks or the cable were going to catch on my TS55 or on the edge of the body of the systainer. To my relief there was no problem at all.

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As you can see the latches are open and the lid is just resting on the body and with the gap as small as that there surely couldn't be any catching.

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I'm proud to say this has to be easiest fix I've ever done. To be brutally honest I have no idea why Festool haven't done something similar or at least make a designated place for the cable to go. I mean it really can't cost that much to adjust the plastic mould of the lid to have rod like protrusions to hold the body of the cable and two plastic clips (Like those on vacuum cleaners) for the two ends. Oh well.

Oh, if you want to get really fancy I thought about adding these to hold the two ends properly:
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**UPDATE

After trying this with all my systainers and tools I found it works for all of mine (see below for a list) with some fiddling. The exception was my Trion jigsaw, since it came in a Sytainer 1 it was going to be tough from the start. I could close it with the cable wrapped around the cup hooks but the pressure I had to apply I felt was too much and I scrapped it for the trion.

This is what I mean by "fiddling"
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I cut it down a bit. This is great because it could then be screwed all the way into the systainer without worry that it would poke a hole in the top.

The tools that worked for me:
OF1010 Router
TS55 Saw
RO125 Sander
DF500 Domino
 
Brilliant! I think most guys tend to use one cord attached to the vac so we have a surplus of cords. However, we don't dare take them out of the Systainer for fear of not having a cord on the job. Problem is them end up in the way half of the time. On the lid is nicely out of the way. Well done my friend!
 
I solved the problem by just taking the Plug-it out of the systainer and storing it on the shelf. But it could get lost or mis-placed. I like this solution better. Thanks for the tip.

Greg
 
Very, very cool.  I'm always looking for ways to be efficent and use "found" space.  Nice find!

Brice:  Like you, I worry about not having a cord when I take it out of the box.  I cheat by stuffing an extra plug-it under the seat of my car.  ( I store the larger cord so it will work with all plug-it's recepticles)

Dan
 
I only have 2 tools that have a darn plug-it cord.

I keep the one for my 55 on it at all times and my rotex is the other one.

All my other Festool's have regular cords.

 
Dan Rush said:
...Brice:  Like you, I worry about not having a cord when I take it out of the box.  I cheat by stuffing an extra plug-it under the seat of my car.  ( I store the larger cord so it will work with all plug-it's recepticles)

Dan

Good idea.
 
brilliant ideas guys. I had to "de-nub" one of my cords cuz i didnt have the right one with me one day, now I have to buy 2 cords! grrrr
 
Chris,

As everyone has indicated, this is truly a great resolution to a problem.  Also, like all your other posts, well written and illustrated.  I think you are missing your true calling.

Along the lines of the plug-it cord, I was thinking yesterday as to why every tool that needs a plug-it cord has to come with a plug-it cord.  They retail for about $35.  Why not reduce the tool price by that amount, or something along those lines, and buy the one or two cords we need only once as a separate item?  I don't really need 12 plug-it cords.

Neill
 
Neill said:
Chris,

As everyone has indicated, this is truly a great resolution to a problem.  Also, like all your other posts, well written and illustrated.  I think you are missing your true calling.

Along the lines of the plug-it cord, I was thinking yesterday as to why every tool that needs a plug-it cord has to come with a plug-it cord.  They retail for about $35.  Why not reduce the tool price by that amount, or something along those lines, and buy the one or two cords we need only once as a separate item?  I don't really need 12 plug-it cords.

Neill

This is a good point, however I think for Festool to mass produce the cord it would work out a little cheaper than $35 and with the price you already pay you expect to get everything unless you are happy paying $30 dollars less on a tool? Also this would make a life a little more complex for those who do not own Festools previously. Put yourself in their shoes: You are buying a brand new tool that is helishly expensive but you know it's good. Suddenly when placing the order your dealer tells you "Oh it doesn't come with a power cord"... Can you imagine how bad that would be?

Again what you guys are saying is why I am surprised Festool haven't come up with a simple solution like this. I also thought of taking the cable out but like you said then you risk not having one when you leave the shop.

Does anyone know what those holes are meant to be used for?
 
Chris,

Your point is well taken.  To play devil's advocate... When I buy a drill it doesn't come with bits.  When I buy a jigsaw it does not come with blades.

With some of the new li-ion tools you buy the naked tools and the batteries and charger separately since they are all interchangeable.  Same difference to me as buying a plug-it.

The total price for the tool would hypothetically remain the same if you want it to, tool + cord.

I know that I am contradicting my own argument, but to be honest I would not want to buy the tool if it did not have a cord, regardless of how many I had.

I guess I am just asking the question.  Saving the cost of a cord might be attractive to many buyers.  As GPowers stated, he takes his and just throws it up on a shelf.  A dedicated Festool user could easily have $3-400 worth of cords gathering dust and taking up space.

Neill
 
Niell,

I can understand what you are saying but having a cord is the standard. There is no other tool out there that has a separate cable therefore the tool has to come with a power source being the cable since you can't detatch the cable. Thus it has always been with a corded tool that you get the cord :) On the flip side it also the standard (although from my last cheap black & decker buy it seems to be changing) that the drill doesn't come with bits.
 
Chris Meggersee said:
Niell,

I can understand what you are saying but having a cord is the standard. There is no other tool out there that has a separate cable therefore the tool has to come with a power source being the cable since you can't detatch the cable. Thus it has always been with a corded tool that you get the cord :) On the flip side it also the standard (although from my last cheap black & decker buy it seems to be changing) that the drill doesn't come with bits.

Correction. Bosch circular & reciprocating saws do not come with a cord. It us usually included as a "special offer". like it's included, but not really included. Both are however made to accept an extension cord directly into the tool.

Unfortunately the reciprocating saw is G A R B A G E. I hate using it, because the repair shop is no where near my jobs. From it's physical condition you would never think that it has been in for repair 4x.

As for Festool, I would be THRILLED if they put in similar hooks, or included them for me to put in. But then we wouldn't buy as many replacement cords [sad]
 
I believe only the crappy Bosch RS20 reciprocating saw and its sister crappy Bosch circular saw don't come with cords. Which to me is stupid. The better Bosch tools(like the Bosch RS35 -A fantastic saw) do come with the cords.
 
I actually like my circular saw, forget what model it is. Cuts & cuts & cuts, just like it is supposed to. I have put diamond blades in it and cut asphalt & concrete with it.

As for not having a cord on it, I kind of like that too as it has a dedicated 25 footer on it. I have always hated how most tools for the US market come with 6 footers, so I am just as happy to not have it.
 
harry_ said:
Correction. Bosch circular & reciprocating saws do not come with a cord.

I think this is in America only. I have never seen such a saw with such a cord anywhere, in real life or on the net. I doubt it is even allowed here were I live.
 
Chris

Nice one on the cord storage.  Has anyone tried the "green" plug it cords ?  They are much nicer to use & supposedly don't leave black marks on floors n stuff.  Plus it just looks cool  [thumbs up]

Woodguy
 
woodguy7 said:
Chris

Nice one on the cord storage.  Has anyone tried the "green" plug it cords ?  They are much nicer to use & supposedly don't leave black marks on floors n stuff.  Plus it just looks cool  [thumbs up]

Woodguy

Would be nice is you could get them in the USA!
 
Sorry Greg, didn't realise you couldn't get that either.  Jeez, whats wrong with Festool, its only a lead for goodness sake.

John, yes i like it a lot.  Kinda stiffer than the black ones but still really easy to wind up for packing away.  I got one to match the pig tail i fitted to my multi master.  I may get another one to keep on top of my Cleantex all the time.  Being green it should be really easy to find straight away.

Woodguy.
 
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