Systainer Internal Dimensions

[b_m_hart]

It's easy enough to find the dimensions of each systainer - but how do you go about determining how much usable space there is inside (other than having one to measure)?  I'm planning on picking a few up online, but it would be nice to be able to do some planning before sinking a bunch of cash into the idea, and not have it work out quite as expected...

 

[shoe maker]

systainerworld.com lists the inside dimensions

 

[Alan m]

if you search on the fig there is a thread with the internal (presum internal) mesurments in it. post pics if it works or even if it doesnt. . you dont care to share your idea [blink]

 

[Brice Burrell]

It's easy enough to find the dimensions of each systainer - but how do you go about determining how much usable space there is inside (other than having one to measure)?  I'm planning on picking a few up online, but it would be nice to be able to do some planning before sinking a bunch of cash into the idea, and not have it work out quite as expected...

Actually this is a fairly complex question to answer correctly.  It's hard to accurately measure the interior of the Systainer and then account for all the reinforcement members inside to know for sure what fits and what doesn't.

I'm still waiting for Jonny to get his hands on a T-Loc so we can get our Sketchup model.  

 

[jonny round boy]

I'm still waiting for Jonny to get his hands on a T-Loc so we can get our Sketchup model.  

Brice, you haven't sent it yet?!?!? And here am I, waiting eagerly for the post each and every day... [crying]

 

[mouppe]

It's easy enough to find the dimensions of each systainer - but how do you go about determining how much usable space there is inside (other than having one to measure)?  I'm planning on picking a few up online, but it would be nice to be able to do some planning before sinking a bunch of cash into the idea, and not have it work out quite as expected...

Actually this is a fairly complex question to answer correctly.  It's hard to accurately measure the interior of the Systainer and then account for all the reinforcement members inside to know for sure what fits and what doesn't.

I'm still waiting for Jonny to get his hands on a T-Loc so we can get our Sketchup model.  

You could fill it with water, then pour it out into a measurable container and measure the cubic centimetres. Not that this would be very useful, but by cross-checking it with the internal base dimensions you could estimate how much is lost due to the reinforcement struts.

 

[jonny round boy]

It's easy enough to find the dimensions of each systainer - but how do you go about determining how much usable space there is inside (other than having one to measure)?  I'm planning on picking a few up online, but it would be nice to be able to do some planning before sinking a bunch of cash into the idea, and not have it work out quite as expected...

Actually this is a fairly complex question to answer correctly.  It's hard to accurately measure the interior of the Systainer and then account for all the reinforcement members inside to know for sure what fits and what doesn't.

I'm still waiting for Jonny to get his hands on a T-Loc so we can get our Sketchup model.  

You could fill it with water, then pour it out into a measurable container and measure the cubic centimetres. Not that this would be very useful, but by cross-checking it with the internal base dimensions you could estimate how much is lost due to the reinforcement struts.

That's a bit advanced!

Except that for him to do that, he'd have to physically have the systainer. If he already had one to fill with water, then he wouldn't need to fill it with water to find the answer, 'cos he'd have an actual systainer in front of him... [blink]

 

[mouppe]

[doh]

 

[Brice Burrell]

I'm still waiting for Jonny to get his hands on a T-Loc so we can get our Sketchup model.  

Brice, you haven't sent it yet?!?!? And here am I, waiting eagerly for the post each and every day... [crying]

Jonny, I don't know what kind of relationship you have with your Festool dealer but maybe you could borrow a T-Loc to model??

 

[semenza]

Hi,

If you are talking about the Classic (old style) Systainers I have done the internal dimensions here in detail. 
http://www.talkfestool.com/vb/festool-tanos-all-things-systainer/1868-detailed-interior-systainer-dimensions.html

You can find lots of other stuff on them here too -- 
http://www.talkfestool.com/vb/festool-tanos-all-things-systainer/

Seth

 

[tbellemare]

Frank and I went back and forth on one a few days ago. Until I thought logically about what it was and how it was made, I was making silly assumptions and therefore, silly measurements.

I'm not completely sure of the process but it looks to me like there's a draft angle for the (essentially 2-part) mold that makes the bottom  (of a Systainer bottom) slightly smaller than the top (of a Systainer bottom). If I'm right, that is so that a mold from the inside and one from the outside can be simply pulled in opposite directions after molding.

That means that, as "Our ROCK STAR #1" pointed out, the answer isn't simple. If you add in, as was also mentioned, the fact that there are all sorts of structural members, it becomes even more complex.

If you want conservative measurements, use the inside of the structural members in the bottom of the bottom for the "plan view" dimensions. The height varies with usage also.

Tom

EDITED to correct laziness...

 

[Brice Burrell]

....That means that, as someone pointed out, the answer isn't simple. If you add in, as was also mentioned, the fact that there are all sorts of structural members, it becomes even more complex....

Tom

Boy, I'm only "someone" once again... [big grin]

 

[tbellemare]

'Sorry, Brice - I thought it was you but I was too lazy at the moment I wrote that to go back and double-check.

It's classic, my sloth caused me more work than doing it right the first time...

Tom

 

[atomicmike]

....That means that, as someone pointed out, the answer isn't simple. If you add in, as was also mentioned, the fact that there are all sorts of structural members, it becomes even more complex....

Tom

Boy, I'm only "someone" once again... [big grin]

Maybe it's time to change the name on your FOG account...  [poke]

 

[Brice Burrell]

....That means that, as someone pointed out, the answer isn't simple. If you add in, as was also mentioned, the fact that there are all sorts of structural members, it becomes even more complex....

Tom

Boy, I'm only "someone" once again... [big grin]

Maybe it's time to change the name on your FOG account...  [poke]

[thumbs up]

 

[fritter63]

You could fill it with water, then pour it out into a measurable container and measure the cubic centimetres. Not that this would be very useful, but by cross-checking it with the internal base dimensions you could estimate how much is lost due to the reinforcement struts.

You could do it with Calculus, integrals to be exact (or is that integrals to be approximate?).

Take the footprint and divide out all the nice square sections, then for the non-linear ones, calculate the curve formulas and work those into integral equations to get the area of each one. Once you've got the area of the base, and if you're lucky, you can just multiply by the height.

On second thought, maybe the water is easier....

 

[b_m_hart]

Archimedes would be proud.  I'm not trying to get that detailed, simply trying to figure out the basic interior dimensions

 

[tbellemare]

Let's call in Reimann.

Tom

 

[fritter63]

Well in that case, base is ~176.25 sq in, x 2.75 in for vOlume
To top of base.

 

[LostInTheWood]

You could do it with Calculus, integrals to be exact (or is that integrals to be approximate?).

On second thought, maybe the water is easier....

Let's call in Reimann.

Tom

Haha!  [big grin]