SYSTAINER³ available from September

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Festool and tanos has announced the 3rd generation of there SYSTAINER. The new one ist called SYSTAINER³.

New is:
- it has an integrated handle at the front (wehre the T-LOC sits)
- the possibility to lock the box with a padlock
- form Januare 2020 there is an so called Organizer available – Transparent latch to store screws and similar hardware ...

The new SYSTAINER³ is compatible with its predecessor, the SYSTAINER T-LOC. Its also Possible to place and connect it on top of a Clasic SYSTAINER.

more info can be found: https://systainer3.com
 
Looks like the heights are different (except for 1) from the current system.
And the L size is a bit bigger than a Midi, I guess it's been done to fit in with the bott vehicle system.
 
The organizer M is interesting.  If the top seals the contents of each cubby, I’m all about it!
 
Note:  I have merged the two different threads about the new Sustainers into one.

Peter Halle - Moderator
 
RKA said:
The organizer M is interesting.  If the top seals the contents of each cubby, I’m all about it!

Looks very much like Sortimo T-BOXX. I have several of those and they are excellent.
 
GarryMartin said:
RKA said:
The organizer M is interesting.  If the top seals the contents of each cubby, I’m all about it!

Looks very much like Sortimo T-BOXX. I have several of those and they are excellent.

Yup!  I have them, but they don’t play nice with systainers.  These do!  :)
 
I'm glad I haven't yet invested in small parts storage. I'll probably end up with some of those organizer M's in Sys-AZ drawers.

They're missing the mark by not making the Sys-Combi standard. Several of my tools would benefit from having a Sys-combi with drawer for expendables, accessories, etc but to convert over from my standard systainers would be absurdly cost prohibitive.
 
Of course this happens shortly after I invest a lot of money in a lot of systainers.  I was just telling myself the other day they will probably make a new version soon as the patents on the current version are probably about to expire. Maybe other companies will just start making T-lok style containers on their own once the patents are dead.

Updates are fine, but seriously, if you are going to make an announcement like this,  tanos/festool needs to put out some explicit/clear information on the changes/compatibilities from the current model.  It doesn't look like from a glance they are hugely different, maybe just some added aspects.  But if form factor/interfaces/heights changed, that's going to cause heartburn for folks.  I might rather see a side by side of the improvements/changes then "action photos" of them that tell folks nothing.

It looks like they added a front handle (makes sense on short ones I guess),  rounded the corners instead of the chamfers.  The Latch is different looking. 

Down side is it looks like they down graded the label setup.  I don't see side label holders.  That sucks, as I put labels on on 3 sides. That was/is one of the really nice features.
 
Yes, removing the side labels is definitely a negative.  The handle swings to the front instead of the back, so I wonder what this means for attic lids and how much space the handle takes up.

I'm a big fan of the sortainer IV for small parts and just in general having mobile drawers for smaller tools rather than needing to open a stack; hopefully there is a good replacement for it.

Hopefully, the partnership means the MIDI-like M will have the equivalent of a SYS-AZ available.
 
Love the van racking slides, even if I might not use it. Also those Bott systainers with the black and green latch look incredible. One thing that I don't love is that it looks like the front handle actually gets in the way of the T-loc latch from a box underneath... seems like a bit of an oversight.
 
From Festool's Swedish site:https://www.festool.se/kampanjer/microsites/mobilitet


Is there an overview table with all new designations, sizes and heights?
Product                                               SYSTAINER T-LOC SYSTAINER³ Difference
Old     New       Dimensions   New       Dimensions   Height with feet in mm
SYS 1 TL SYS3 M 112 396mm x 296mm                       112             112       -
-          SYS3 M 137 396mm x 296mm SYS3 L 137 508mm x 296mm -               137       New
SYS 2 TL SYS3 M 187 396mm x 296mm SYS3 L 187 508mm x 296mm 164.5           187       22.5
SYS 3 TL SYS3 M 237 396mm x 296mm SYS3 L 187 508mm x 296mm 217             237       20
SYS 4 TL SYS3 M 337 396mm x 296mm                       322             337       15
SYS 5 TL SYS3 M 437 396mm x 296mm                       427             437       10

SYS3 L is not the same size as the SYS TL Midi
496mm x 296mm
 
Systainer³ M
Technical data - Systainer SYS3 M 112
Dimensions with floor stand (L x W x H) 396 x 296 x 112 mm

Systainer³ L
Technical data - Systainer SYS3 L 137
Dimensions with floor stand (L x W x H) 508 x 296 x 137 mm

Organizer M
Technical data - Organizer SYS3 ORG M 89 6xESB
Dimensions with floor stand (L x W x H) 396 x 296 x 89 mm

Organizer L
Technical data - Organizer SYS3 ORG L 89 10xESB
Dimensions with floor stand (L x W x H) 508 x 296 x 89 mm
 
DeformedTree said:
Of course this happens shortly after I invest a lot of money in a lot of systainers.  I was just telling myself the other day they will probably make a new version soon as the patents on the current version are probably about to expire. Maybe other companies will just start making T-lok style containers on their own once the patents are dead.

Updates are fine, but seriously, if you are going to make an announcement like this,  tanos/festool needs to put out some explicit/clear information on the changes/compatibilities from the current model.  It doesn't look like from a glance they are hugely different, maybe just some added aspects.  But if form factor/interfaces/heights changed, that's going to cause heartburn for folks.  I might rather see a side by side of the improvements/changes then "action photos" of them that tell folks nothing.

It looks like they added a front handle (makes sense on short ones I guess),  rounded the corners instead of the chamfers.  The Latch is different looking. 

Down side is it looks like they down graded the label setup.  I don't see side label holders.  That sucks, as I put labels on on 3 sides. That was/is one of the really nice features.
I’m having the same heart burn! Just finished making an expensive switch to 100% Systainer setup!

It’s called Sod’s law :)

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dusty.tools
 
I like the fact that they have integrated drawer slides and do not neccearily need a sys AZ drawer. You could have some simiple splines or even use 2-3 dominos to act ask pins to store in a chaos wall.
 
Will they be available in the US the same time as the rest of the world?
 
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