T-loc complaint

[WarnerConstCo.]

I seem to be accumulating quite a few t-locs and I have found one thing I really don't like about them.

They suck in the mud. Mud will get behind the little tabs on the bottoms that lock it to the systainer below it and you make a mess picking up a stack that has mud stuck on them.

 

[Guilliaume woodworks]

Son...that's no way to treat a t-loc....some things just ain't right.

 

[WPeters]

Systainers in the Mud!! [eek]  Perhaps you could put a piece of plywood or cardboard down before setting your systainer down??? 

 

[WarnerConstCo.]

I have work to get done, no time to drag cardboard around with me.  I have been building two decks, it is fall in Indiana, mud is hard to avoid. 

 

[Sparktrician]

I have work to get done, no time to drag cardboard around with me.  I have been building two decks, it is fall in Indiana, mud is hard to avoid. 

Speaking of time, how much do you spend cleaning mud off your Systainers? 

 

[WarnerConstCo.]

I have work to get done, no time to drag cardboard around with me.  I have been building two decks, it is fall in Indiana, mud is hard to avoid. 

Speaking of time, how much do you spend cleaning mud off your Systainers? 

3 seconds to dig it out of those tabs.  The rest can stay. 

 

[briankb]

Seems like a valid complaint. Do you have a suggestion on how to change the design to make it work better?

 

[WarnerConstCo.]

It makes it impossible to stack them up and latch them together. Never had an issue with my old systainers. 

Just sucks when you dump a few systainers worth of stuff in the mud, or rain, or what not. 

They have to be there or they won't hook to the one below.

 

[mrboult]

3 seconds to dig it out of those tabs.  The rest can stay. 

Seem like 3 seconds to dig out the mud, and 1 second to twist the T-Loc is still quicker than locking all 4 tabs on the old style systainer.  [big grin]

I was never interested in systainers until the T-Locs came along.  The old style were way too much hassle, and you couldn't access half way down the stack easily.

 

[leakyroof]

I thought about this, and thought about your work sites and deck work in general.
I would rather tote a stack of any style systainer off the ground to keep the elements out of them as much as possible and avoid double handling too. How about a 4 wheel cart or wagon that gets the Systainers out of the mud from the start, and allows you to easily load and unload from your transportation vehicle.
The cart or wagon gets the stack closer to you and whatever crew you have, instead of everyone reaching to the ground.
With as much possible Ipe' scrap that you might have lying around from the decks you build, you could build something that shows off the wood and your work while moving those systainers around out of the mud or just buy something that fits your budget and needs.
Sure, Festool has the SysCart, but that may or may not like mud at a site... [embarassed]
Just my 2 cents Darcy..

 

[WarnerConstCo.]

I have the new cart.  I like to travel light, minimal tools for the tasks anymore.  Most of the mud was from tossing them under the deck during a down pour.  My kapex and its table got real wet though.   Mud and rain happens, got to work in it sometimes and deal with it.  A little water won't hurt anything.

It is a minor complaint, but it was definitely annoying.  

 

[unityroad]

Like you warner I only bring what I have to. Try a plastic folding table. They set up fast keeps tools of the ground. I have a few hand spring clamps,tarp to cover quickly. Keeps things clean. That way you are not trashing the truck, [eek] [eek] trailer interior from muddy tools. However some people it does not bother.

 

[festooltim]

Maybe a generous amount of Armor All on them and the mud won't stick and just fall right off.

 

[Saskataper]

You could try never wet, its a two part spray on semitransparent coating that is supposed to make it almost impossible for mud and whatnot to stick. they sell it at home depot and I am keen to give it a try.

 

[Guilliaume woodworks]

Maybe a generous amount of Armor All on them and the mud won't stick and just fall right off.

That's a great idea!

 

[reforzar]

You could try never wet, its a two part spray on semitransparent coating that is supposed to make it almost impossible for mud and whatnot to stick. they sell it at home depot and I am keen to give it a try.

I agree, if you follow the instructions properly, it is a great water repellent. I have used it on a test board only, sprayed it with water and it beads right off. My idea was to try it on my boots to keep the mud and snow off them.

 

[CarolinaNomad]

You could try never wet, its a two part spray on semitransparent coating that is supposed to make it almost impossible for mud and whatnot to stick. they sell it at home depot and I am keen to give it a try.

I agree with Saskataper.  At least this way, your not carrying rain gear for your tools.