T-Loc Systainer Catalog Now Available Online

[jmbfestool]

I'm kind of concerned about the plan for all new tools to be put to market in the new T-locs.  I personally don't mind the (newly named) "classic".  (let's hope things don't go the way of "New Coke"!).
But I now have a triple pile of Festool and Systainers.  I like and appreciate that I can stack them and arrange them in *any* way I need, or just as the result of chaotic cleanup.  I don't necessarily welcome the concept that I *must* put the RO90 (future purchase!) at the top of a stack, since it cannot go in the middle, below a SysClassic.

Although I think the T-loc is pretty OK cool (especially the top and front handle), I would prefer the option of choosing a SysClassic, vs a T-loc, for a tool purchase.
I don't find the new labeling accomodation of interest, since I've already sunk a bit of time into creating new labels for the Systainers.  Since I have two hands it doesn't take much longer or more effort to undo two latches, versus one handle (since I can do both latches at the same time!). 

Anyway, just my  [2cents]

Thats not so true even though you have two hands so twice as quick as you say but you have 4 times more catches to unclip compared to the T-lock only has 1 or unless your a mutant and have four hands and can unclip all four in one go then its just as quick  [tongue]

JMB

 

[Frank Pellow]

I am happy  [smile] that Tanos has come out with the new systainer design and appreciate that I will be able to attach my old systainers under the new ones. 

I like to new t-locks and expect that they will be much easier to use, but the thing that I like the best is the ability to attach an optional front handle to a systainer.  This will make it much easier for me to transport my "carry-on" systainer that I described in the thread http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-jigs-tool-enhancements/carry-on-systainer-for-officecomputercamera-use/

I just hope that there is a convenient way to attach my "office top" (see the thread: http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-jigs-tool-enhancements/a-homemade-'office-top'-that-attaches-to-a-systainer-lid/) to the new type of systainer.

I guess that I will pre-order a systainer 3 and a front handle and see what I can to to fit it out for portable office use.

 

[Administrator_JSVN]

Frank, there are screw holes however I believe they are in locations different from the classic systainers.  So, I think your custom lid insert will work but may need a little tweak.

 

[Frank Pellow]

Frank, there are screw holes however I believe they are in locations different from the classic systainers.  So, I think your custom lid insert will work but may need a little tweak.

The fact that there are screw holes anywhere in the lid is good news, thanks Shane.  Now, I'm fairly sure that I will be able to make my "office lid" work.

 

[brouder]

Hi all,

I just received my first T-LOC Systainer today, and first impressions are very good.

Like Corwin, I was worried that it would be impossible to open the front latches of an old systainer attached from below, but in fact it's a really clever and simple design that works perfectly. The locking mechanism for attaching the new T-LOC onto the top of an 'old' systainer is based on the side latches - this is what keeps them firmly together. When you lift the front latches of the old systainer up and snap them onto the front of the T-LOC, they stay firmly in place, but they are not actually 'locked' as such.

When you want to separate the two, first unlock the side latches (which is the identical procedure as separating two old systainers), and then you simply nudge the T-LOC systainer back an inch, 'reversing' it out from the latches on the systainer below.

I hope that makes sense! Here's a pic -

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[Sean7a]

Hi all,

I just received my first T-LOC Systainer today, and first impressions are very good.

Like Corwin, I was worried that it would be impossible to open the front latches of an old systainer attached from below, but in fact it's a really clever and simple design that works perfectly. The locking mechanism for attaching the new T-LOC onto the top of an 'old' systainer is based on the side latches - this is what keeps them firmly together. When you lift the front latches of the old systainer up and snap them onto the front of the T-LOC, they stay firmly in place, but they are not actually 'locked' as such.

When you want to separate the two, first unlock the side latches (which is the identical procedure as separating two old systainers), and then you simply nudge the T-LOC systainer back an inch, 'reversing' it out from the latches on the systainer below.

I hope that makes sense! Here's a pic -

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Great explanation.  Clear and concise.

 

[tbellemare]

So, does that mean that there is no positive detent. When stacking traditional-to-traditional systainers, the latch snaps in place.

Tom

 

[Redfox]

Hi Festoholic,
Sounds great. Btw. how is that new T18+3 doing? And how is it compared with the old ones?

Cheers,
Jacques.

 

[Frank Pellow]

Festoholic, thanks for the explanation and the pictures,

 

[mouppe]

I am happy  [smile] that Tanos has come out with the new systainer design and appreciate that I will be able to attach my old systainers under the new ones. 

I like to new t-locks and expect that they will be much easier to use, but the thing that I like the best is the ability to attach an optional front handle to a systainer.  This will make it much easier for me to transport my "carry-on" systainer that I described in the thread http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-jigs-tool-enhancements/carry-on-systainer-for-officecomputercamera-use/

I just hope that there is a convenient way to attach my "office top" (see the thread: http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-jigs-tool-enhancements/a-homemade-'office-top'-that-attaches-to-a-systainer-lid/) to the new type of systainer.

I guess that I will pre-order a systainer 3 and a front handle and see what I can to to fit it out for portable office use.

Frank,

I think I read somewhere that the front handle is only for sys 1 and sys 2.

Richard.

 

[brouder]

So, does that mean that there is no positive detent. When stacking traditional-to-traditional systainers, the latch snaps in place.

Tom

Hi Tom,

If you compare the two pictures below, you can see that with two traditional systainers stacked together, the square 'catch' on the systainer sitting on top fills the entire quadrant at the back of the green latch, but it's really the pressure of the lower pair trying to push away from each other that gives the force to the mechanism. When the top catch is inserted on the old system, it completely fills the available space, and so 'locks' in place.

With the new T-LOC, the square 'catch' is only half the size of the old one, so while the locking force is provided below, the catch itself doesn't fill the entire space of the upper quadrant. It 'nestles' inside the top of the quadrant.

These are the two 'old' systainers...

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And this is the T-LOC sitting on top of an old systainer...

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I hope this helps.

Alan

 

[brouder]

Hi Festoholic,
Sounds great. Btw. how is that new T18+3 doing? And how is it compared with the old ones?

Cheers,
Jacques.

Hi Jacques,

The new T18 is a dream... but I might get into trouble if I start a conversation on that topic here...! I'll have a look for the appropriate thread...

Alan

 

[Brice Burrell]

Festoholic, how about some more pictures of the new T Loc systainer.

 

[tbellemare]

I get it, Alan. I forgot that the detent was in the lower part.

Tom

 

[jonny round boy]

Could I request a picture of the underside of the systainer?

Thanks

 

[brouder]

Hi All,

Here are a few more pics of the T-LOC, including the underside. Let me know if you would like close ups of any part and I will be happy to take a few more.

Alan

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[brouder]

I just noticed that a few of these pictures are not very sharp. It's getting dark here right now - I might take a few more tomorrow in the daylight rather than using a flash now.

Alan

 

[jonny round boy]

Festoholic,

Thanks for those! Could you just confirm my suspicions on how the T-Locs fit together? Am I right in thinging that the rear feet:
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have a 'hook' on them that hooks under this 'ledge'?
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Thanks!

PS - Love the line in your signature!

 

[Brice Burrell]

Festoholic, thanks for posting the pictures.  It appears that the tool labels are stickers and not a card, is that correct?

 

[Brice Burrell]

Hi Festoholic,
Sounds great. Btw. how is that new T18+3 doing? And how is it compared with the old ones?

Cheers,
Jacques.

Hi Jacques,

The new T18 is a dream... but I might get into trouble if I start a conversation on that topic here...! I'll have a look for the appropriate thread...

Alan

I hope you start a new thread on the T18 drill.  I'm sure there are plenty of us dying to see some pictures and hear first hand reports.