Tanos, others at Fensterbau-Frontale / Holz-Handwerk 2024

[Tom the Remodeler]

I'm curious if any other FOG members are attending the Fensterbau-Frontale and Holz-Handwerk show in Nürnberg this week? I walked by the Tanos booth and they had an impressive selection of Systainers out, though I'll have to swing by again today to see if they have any of the newer Systainers on display or not.

Mafell has their new LO-55 router and cordless jigsaw on display.

Lamello, Makita, Bosch, Milwaukee, Fein and Dewalt all have reasonably large booths, Mafell has a small booth. Festool does not have a booth, I wonder if they're waiting until the Ligna or Bau shows next year?

Also absent are some of the machinery makers, notably SCM, Martin, Felder, Altendorf, etc.... do not have booths. Hofmann, Hoffmann, Houfek, Biesse, Panhans, and others do have nice booths with lots of machinery. SCM does not have their own booth, but there are a lot of SCM/Casadei machines at the Holzkraft booth.

Ruwi has a great display at the show, with examples of each of their four router tables on display, with the 10-spindle machine used for demo work. Prior to the Show I visited several door/window shops and I was impressed to see that every one of them had one of the Ruwi multi-spindle router tables. Very impressive, I'm hoping someone can sort out a way to distribute them in North America.

Needless to say the hardware halls are amazing, with a lot of 6m tall doors in various configurations (pivot, lift/slide, tilt/slide, etc...).

If others are attending, anything interesting that you saw that's worth checking out?

 

[Michael Kellough]

Must be very interesting.

Any Metabo presence?

 

[Tom the Remodeler]

Must be very interesting.

Any Metabo presence?

Hi Michael,

Yes, it's neat to see some of the NAINA tools in person.

Metabo does not have a booth (I wish they did).

I noticed today that Makita had a 40V XGT router, will look at it more closely on Friday.

I visited the Tanos booth again, they did have the newer Sortainer systainers on display. I really liked the one with the larger lower drawer, will definitely be picking several of those up when they reach North America (I got the impression they were available now if I ordered in quantity).

The Systainer Rack M also looked interesting. It's not evident in the photos, but the Mini-Systainers are released by pressing on them, sort of like a magnetic catch or latch on a cabinet door.

Shaper Origin also had a moderately sized booth. Apparently there's a French product similar to Origin which is better suited to larger (think: timber framing) mortises, will see if I can track that down.

This was my first visit to a European trade show, but absolutely worth it, makes IWF and AWFS look small in comparison.

 

[Tom the Remodeler]

I forgot to mention, SCM had their hand/flesh sensing L'invincibile sliding saw on display. In the past some folks lamented that the demonstrator approached the blade too slowly to give an accurate gauge of how effective it was. In today's demonstration the representative quickly moved his hand (wearing a glove) very near the blade (I estimate within and inch or two) without activating the system, then very quickly jammed his hand towards the blade. The system activates faster than you can blink, and I think it took ~15-20 seconds for it to re-set. As stated many times before, I wouldn't rely on that technology myself, but it put to rest any misgivings regarding how quickly it can sense a hand and response.

 

[jeh]

Did you try out the LO-55?

 

[Tom the Remodeler]

Did you try out the LO-55?

Hi JimH2,

I did handle the router yesterday, it's heavy but in a reassuring way (feels very well built). All of the holding/gripping surfaces are comfortable and the switches/controls are easy to reach without taking your hands off the tool. The Mafell rep indicated they were working on a 120V version, so fingers crossed we'll see one eventually!

 

[Cheese]

Hey Tom...what did you think of the cordless P1 cc? Are they offering a smaller battery for it? It seems the battery used on their track saws would be rather large and ungainly on a jig saw.

 

[Tom the Remodeler]

Hey Tom...what did you think of the cordless P1 cc? Are they offering a smaller battery for it? It seems the battery used on their track saws would be rather large and ungainly on a jig saw.

Hi Cheese,

It felt heavy, but in a good way. The drive/front section is massive/dense, so the "normal" 5.2Ah battery might be a nice counterweight, like on the KSS 40. That being said, it's in the CAS system, so I imagine any Metabo slim battery should work, but I'll validate that Friday morning.

 

[blues]

Hey Tom...what did you think of the cordless P1 cc? Are they offering a smaller battery for it? It seems the battery used on their track saws would be rather large and ungainly on a jig saw.

Hi Cheese,

It felt heavy, but in a good way. The drive/front section is massive/dense, so the "normal" 5.2Ah battery might be a nice counterweight, like on the KSS 40. That being said, it's in the CAS system, so I imagine any Metabo slim battery should work, but I'll validate that Friday morning.

I was looking forward to the cordless version of the P1CC. I looked at some pictures and the damn thing is massive and big almost to the point that i dont want it.
I think usability is very crucial. The existing p1cc is meaty enough and if they are going to add to that weight, fatigue would set in pretty quick. Anyways for now i plan to stick with the p1cc (unfortunately it does not have an led - my biggest gripe)

 

[MikeGE]

For those, like me, who missed the event this year, here is a 26 minute walking tour from Paul (Woodcraft CZ).