TF 1400 and TF 2200 Discontinued in UK?

[GarryMartin]

I just first have to say that as a recent convert to Festool in the UK (having purchased a TS55, CTL26 and MFT/3 in the last couple of months), I have been lurking on the forum for a while. There's some great content here guys, and you should be equally proud not only of what you have built in this forum, but in the way you treat members and peers with the utmost of patience and respect. Truly outstanding.

So having now started on the infamous slippery green slope (with some great advice at the start of the journey from John (Windmill Man) by PM; thanks John), I now find myself desiring more whilst at the same time being constantly amazed by the ingenuity of the community and becoming more than intimately familiar with the Festool parts website!

Whilst apologising in advance to our US friends (I learnt the significance of NAINA in the forums very early on!), my current quest takes me into the land of routers, and more specifically into the TF 1400 and TF 2200 sets that combine the OF 1400 and OF 2200 with the CMS. I've found at least one site that lists the 240V versions (570258 and 570264 respectively) as discontinued and indeed they no longer show on the Products listing of the main Festool UK website.

Have they been discontinued? If they have, does anyone know why? Are there perhaps new versions shipping soon?

Best regards,

Garry

 

[Alan m]

[welcome] to the fog. dont know anything about the routers but a link to it might help and also tease the us guys [poke]

 

[GarryMartin]

[welcome] to the fog. dont know anything about the routers but a link to it might help and also tease the us guys [poke]

Thanks for the welcome. [big grin]

The links on the Festool UK website appear to have gone unfortunately.

The following links are to the site that lists them as discontinued however;

http://www.wokinghamtools.co.uk/product.php/section//sn/TF1400SetGB240V
http://www.wokinghamtools.co.uk/product.php/section//sn/TF2200SetGB240V

Lots of other sites still seem to be selling them, so I'm not sure whether they are or are not discontinued to be honest. What I didn't want to do was buy one of them and then find a new/better model arrives in a months time...

Best regards,

Garry

 

[jmbfestool]

http://www.festool.com/EN/Products/Accessories/Pages/Detail.aspx?pid=570251&name=Module-support-router-CMS-OF

Oops not uk sorry!  Strange not on the uk site!  I'm calling my dealer 2moro I wanna know!

Jmb

 

[jmbfestool]

In a way I'm glad  That they have discontinued the CMS-OF. Cus maybe this means a new one might be coming out!  Cus I must admit the current one is kinda crap. They could of made it alot easier to attach the of2200.  The base plate clips on the of2200 so I don't see why the same clips could not be attached to the CMS-OF so you can just clip the OF2200 straight onto it.  Cus you have to remove the bottom plate on the OF2200 for the current setup.

Jmb

 

[Waka]

[welcome], you'll find this site very helpful and expensive as you continue down the slope.

 

[Guy Ashley]

Hi Garry

[welcome] to the FOG!!

Try a call to Festool UK or one of the big online dealers, they should put your mind at rest before you part with your hard earned cash.

So having now started on the infamous slippery green slope (with some great advice at the start of the journey from John (Windmill Man) by PM; thanks John),

Garry

Be careful with what John tells you, like all Yorkshire men he will spin you a line!! ;D ;D

Has he told you about the Virgin Unicorn Belgrande Oak? Priceless!! [big grin] [big grin]

 

[toolfest.co.uk]

Hi Garry

This was really curious to see, so I made the call to FESTOOL UK.

The TF1400 and TF2200 have been deleted as product codes, but all the parts of those packages are available, the routers, the mounting module and the CMS base unit. No reason was given or asked for. If I do hear why, I'll let you know. How this impacts on the cost of the units would need calculating.

So the answer seems to be, not discontinued but only available as component parts.

Hope this helps

Best regards

Warren

 

[windmill man]

Afternoon Gary ,

Hope the saw is continuing to amaze.

Well now then Young Mr Ashley [big grin]. Or should i say not so young [big grin] [big grin]

Once again you prove you are but a mere Midland Bog Whit !!!!!!!!!! [big grin] [big grin]

I`m not a Yorkshire Man, I am a Lancastrian and well you know. !!!!!!! [big grin] [big grin]

I can see you have not got past chapter 12 of the United Nations Correspondence  Diplomatic Course. (you promised you would finish the course after the last incident).

Beltane Oak , not Belgrande. Pay more attention. You Christian  [poke] [poke].

You got any news on the Chapel Doors.

Dont worry Gary he is harmless and very special, also a fountain of knowledge.

John

 

[MadViking]

Both the TF 1400 and TF 2200 are still listed on the German Festool site, as is the CMS OF. This seems to be a UK-only kind of thing, and I don't think they will be providing an improved CMS OF any time soon.

 

[windmill man]

Garry ,

If you are looking for a router table set up, I can make some suggestions, one of which would not be the CMS, it is, to be kind, a bit agricultural. There are far Superior set ups out there for less money and higher quality.

John

 

[GarryMartin]

The TF1400 and TF2200 have been deleted as product codes, but all the parts of those packages are available, the routers, the mounting module and the CMS base unit. No reason was given or asked for. If I do hear why, I'll let you know. How this impacts on the cost of the units would need calculating.

Thanks for the information Warren. So I guess that means once the current stock is sold, there will be a £200 premium to assemble the same "kit" as individual components. Interesting decision, especially if the TF kit options continue to be available in other regions.

If you are looking for a router table set up, I can make some suggestions, one of which would not be the CMS, it is, to be kind, a bit agricultural. There are far Superior set ups out there for less money and higher quality.

Thanks John. I'm just looking at all the options and doing some of the math associated with individual tools compared with kit versions.

The only work/storage space I have available at home is a single car garage, so multi-function options score highly, but I'm also often called upon to load tools into the car to help out at parents/friends etc., so portability factors greatly too.

Having purchased the TS 55 and MFT/3, I was attracted by the CMS system options specifically for sawing and routing. I'd started to explore the workflow for the type of things I do and could see where the combination of those tools and an OF 1400 or OF 2200 together with the CMS-Basic and the MFT/3-VL (and of course the CMS OF and CMS TS 55 module supports) would provide quite a powerful solution in a very small footprint.

It wouldn't be perfect, but it would be multi-functional, it would be portable, and it would allow me to work safely in most of the scenarios I envisage. There's still lots more to be thought through though, and certainly more analysis of options to be done, and I'm certainly not rushing into things.

If there are superior options out there that would work for my limited space and that tick the multi-function and portability criteria, then I'd welcome further information. I really value the time you took to respond to my initial queries and your advice has already changed a number of decisions that initially seemed so clear cut, but when re-analysed in light of your extensive experience with the various tools, actually made little sense.

Kind regards,

Garry

 

[windmill man]

Evening Garry,

With the info in your last post , I have to reconsider my last statement. You are correct the MFT VL3 set up will give you a compact multifunctional set up that will easily meet all your requirement. I have this set up for site work and I can produce workshop quality joinery on site with it.

I cant think of any other product that can match the set up, I think Trion do something similar but it is not as refined or multifunctional. Before I got the MFT VL3 set up i toyed with the idea of a couple of Walko benches with , table saw / router table suspended in between. I could not see the point of it  in the end, when I could use my existing festools in an existing system.

Hope that helps [smile]

John

 

[GarryMartin]

With the info in your last post , I have to reconsider my last statement. You are correct the MFT VL3 set up will give you a compact multifunctional set up that will easily meet all your requirement. I have this set up for site work and I can produce workshop quality joinery on site with it.

I'd been drawn to the MFT/3-VL after originally seeing the pictures of your shop and combinations, and subsequently a number of posts that reference it and indeed the CMS-Basic. As there isn't a MFT/3-VL kit option for the routers, to mount something like the OF 2200 EB-Plus, I'd have to buy the router at £708 and the CMS-OF at £470.40 (total £1178.40). At least one dealer has the TF 2200 at £1308.96 at the moment which basically means for the difference in price of £130.56, you get the CMS-Basic. Bargain I think, especially considering the additional work options you get if you also intend to buy the CMS-TS 55.  [wink]

I hope you can see the math I was doing now in relation to buying the TF 2200 kit even though I predominantly think the MFT/3-VL would be used most often.

Of course, I'm assuming with the kits that you just get all the items you would normally but at a discounted bundle price. If that isn't the case (and therefore the TF 2200 isn't the same as buying an OF 2200 EB-Plus, the CMS-OF and the CMS-Basic) I'm hoping someone will shout quickly before I take the plunge.

Hope that helps [smile]

It does. Immensely.

Kind regards,

Garry

 

[toolfest.co.uk]

Hi Garry

Just had a chat with FESTOOL UK and have (for the time being) been told if we order the components that make up a TF 1400 or TF 2200, we can have them at the old price. Therefore I am going to leave them listed on our www.toolfest.co.uk website at those prices until I'm told otherwise.

However, the prices you quote at the start of the thread are a little less, so you might want to grab a reasonably good bargain?

Best regards

Warren