Thicknesser dust extraction with a CT vac?

[RC]

I bought a Makita 2012NB thicknesser and I'm looking for ways to hook it up with my CTL26.

The best (technical) solution I've found up to now is to acquire a 70-50mm reducer from Amazon to downsize the 70mm dust shroud of the Makita to something more manageable size. And then connect a short Festool 50mm-50mm hose to the reducer.

Now I know that something like a thicknesser would like to have a lot move CFM of airflow to work optimally, but could a CTL26 keep up with one with a 50mm hose? Anyone tried this?

I'm asking because the largest hose I own is a 36mm one and I'd like to hear of your experiences before shelling 100€ on a hose & reducer that have no other function in life than work in this extraction setup. For about the same 100-150€ I can pretty much get an hobby VAC from Axminster, but that would be 'yet another unwanted machine in the shop'.

 

[barnowl]

Nothing generates vast amounts of wood chips as fast as a planer.

In my opinion, the 26 will be woefully inadequate to collect chips from the planer.

It won't move enough air, the hose will clog, and the bag will fill up after just a few passes.

I use a Jet 1100 dust collector, with a 4" hose, and can fill a 30 gallon trash can full of wood chips after planing only 2 or 3 - 8 foot boards.

Get a real dust collector.

 

[Theshipstore]

I have to agree that the CT's won't easily handle the volume of chips generated by the planer. I tried it once hooked up to my CT 26 and even the 50mm hose could not keep up with the chip load
I went  back to my Delta 4" setup for both my jointer and planer

 

[ajones]

I have used the ctl26 with a yellow thicknesser and a trend 50mm hose with fts the ct and the yellow 100mm/50mm adapter it worked very well its just the volume thats the issue... fine for those small jobs though..

I have a trend 50mm hose you can have if you pay to post it. have a look on the trend site its for the crt and prt router tables

 

[Mauri Motti]

With a lunchbox planer like that you wont be taking of say 3 or 4mm at once. Maybe two millimeter at softwoods like pine or spruce at max and likely around 1mm when planing hardwoods. Therefore the chips come in reasonable moderate proportions that the CTL will manage with a 36mm hose. Lets just say that the lesser you'll shave at once the better your vac can handle the chips, right? I have had a 36mm hose/ CTL 26 to a lunchboxplaner and didnt encounter major issues regarding the extraction. Only when using very resinous wood, like some Pine, the port may get cloggy and got stuck. Yes the bags fill quickly. At the time when I did use the lunchboxplaner I already had the festo longlife bag so i didn't consider this an issue.

Did you not already try your 36 to see what job it does? I mean just by mocking up somesort of reducer. Give it a shot before getting a 50mm
Mauri

 

[Corwin]

I have the Makita 2012NB.  The easiest way to connect a Festool vac is to purchase the Makita Dust Hood accessory and the Festool hose connector along with a short length of the Festool D50 hose, or another, cheaper brand of hose that has ShopVac-type hose ends on both ends.  The Festool Hose Connector will fit into the opening on the dust hood -- the connector isn't exactly the same on either end, and one end will fit snuggly into the dust hood opening better than the other. 

Dust extraction with a ShopVac or Festool extractor is somewhat short of keeping up with your planer -- dependent, of course, on the amount of material you are removing with each pass...  It will work, but just barely.

 

[Stone Message]

Hi Reiska

Your first two responders hit it on the head - the CT26 is not the right machine for the planer. You need HVLP (Chip extractors) as opposed to HPLV (CT26). The CT26 will be full of chips in no time. When I am planning a lot of stuff I might take 3 dustbins full of chips to the compost heap (equivalent to about 12 CT bags).

I know that you have a small workshop and appreciate that a chip extractor takes up loads of room. I do not have a chip extractor but use the Numatic NVD 750 which I bought from Axminster. Follow this link:

http://www.axminster.co.uk/numatic-numatic-nvd750-workshop-vacuum-extractor-prod782721/

It has a small dust tank and so I use a 100mm cyclone on top of a dustbin - it works a treat.

Peter

 

[sancho57]

I do it, I have a piece of 4" hose maybe 4" long clamped to a reducer and use my 36 mm hose for my CT26. It will work, It will fill up the bags quickly. I suggest getting some 50mm hose instead of the 36 m hose to increase air flow.  use t for small planing ops only.

 

[fdengel]

It won't move enough air, the hose will clog, and the bag will fill up after just a few passes.

Yep, this is my experience using my Ridgid thickness planer hooked up to my CT22.

I still try it though because I simply don't have room for a larger more correct extractor right now.  If the passes are (painfully) thin enough, it's still at least somewhat better than not using an extractor at all.

The alternative is to lug it up the stairs from the basement and outside and aim it where the mulch should go...

 

[Stone Message]

When the sheer quantity of chippings is an issue you can try a cyclone intercepter. In the picture you see my Numatic NVD 750 (which pulls just a little more than a CT) connected to my 100mm Cyclone Central cyclone. Almost everything goes into the dropbox (dustbin) which is emptied onto the compost at regular intervals.

Peter

 

[Alan m]

the ct vacs will work but fill very quickly/.
they wouldnt be my first choice but needs must.
i would go for a seperater  to calch the chips.
i would go for a cyclone or a thien baffel . you can make the thien yourself ( i have and its great) out of scrap