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I saw a youtube video on how to keep the TS55 on the track while bevel cutting,and I can't find it,I think the fella from Omaha posted it ,but I don't know.
Anybody know of this trick?
 
Let me see if i can make a photo essay on making one.  Festool was not interested in the design (too simple [huh] of a solution to a vexing problem). 

Thanks for your interest by the way.

Craig

 
Try to sell the invention to Festool, end get the price right $$$, cuz they know how to price tools to the consumer.
I know that Makita has this as standard on their plunge cut saw.
 
the only issue with Steve's is you have to take the thumbscrew out to place or pull the saw from the rail.  I made mine after dropping the saw to concrete and knocking it out of alignment [mad]  it is actually pretty easy to make the metal "clip". It engages the magnets embedded in the saw base.  It would be easy to stamp out for like  [2cents].  All I wanted for the idea was a Rotex [big grin]. 
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The clip doesn't interfere with the stops normal functions.

The Key to the clip is the little nub at the end.

the saw actually engages the stop not the clip.

Craig
 
Sorry 'bout that Rotex thing...  [unsure]

... and thanks for posting your detailed photos! 
 
No need to take a thumbscrew off on mine, it even says so in the first post. The saw tilts right in.  [big grin]
 
That's a really nice idea.  If you can do something simply it is certainly far better than making something complicated.  They should have given you the Rotex and a Kapex.
 
Thank you for providing these ideas.  I like your suggestion about getting at least a Rotex, if not a Kapex for your solution.  I think the tipping of the saw is a problem, and Festool should correct it.  Your solution seems like a cost-effective, professional solution.  Now for a rant where I contradict my first sentence:

The one thing I absolutely hate about this forum - We present ideas and solutions, but we do not receive compensation for them.

I once found this graphic design blog that talked about the problems with design contests.  The blog owner advised graphic designers NOT to participate in contests, even if there are prizes.  His reasoning was that once you submit an idea, the contest holder either owns that idea, or can take all the ideas, evaluate them, and come up with an improvement on the ideas all with NO COMPENSATION!  It was a "free" way for the poster to have people do work for them, which they would later market or take credit for.

After reading that blog post, I realized that the guy was right.  I changed my whole philosophy on providing feedback and how I dealt with companies.  Quid pro quo - I provide you an idea, and if you market it and make money off of it, then at least give me something for it.  If not, I'm not going to expend my intellectual capital providing something that will enrich you, but not provide any compensation to me.  Festool charges a kings ransom for what they produce.  They are very proud of their intellectual capital.    Us common folk, however, shouldn't be so proud of our intellectual capital and should provide these ideas for "free".

What really drives me insane about Festool is that it seems that Festool has an incredibly tight and arrogant policy about pricing, "comps" and so forth.  Yes, there is good service, but it seems like the ideas and compensation only seems to go one way.  You provide the ideas, they produce the products and then turn around and charge you a king's ransom for them.  There may be some sort of "legal" reason for not providing compensation, but I think that could be remedied with a simple release at time of compensation.

Also, I am amazed that many of the members are so accepting of the philosophy of "those who pay for the tools give", while those who "are paid for the tools take".  Remember my posts complaining about the rail damaged in shipment?  I received a lot of feedback that I should take the hit and should just deal with it, and still let the dealer collect the full amount.  "Those are the chances you take", "accidents happen so deal with it" and other feedback was provided.  Again, I had to "give" while others got to "take" seemed to be the accepted attitude.

As bad and un-community-ish as this sounds, I would advise people not to provide fixes or ideas for solving these problems until we start receiving some reasonable compensation for them.  And a tape measure or t-shirt is not reasonable compensation.
If Festool is so proud of their Research and Development, and they charge us for it, then allow them to earn it.  Don't give it to them.  If we want to be a community, lets stop the one way game of "everybody get's paid, except for you".

My rant is over.
 
JohnDistai said:
Thank you for providing these ideas.  I like your suggestion about getting at least a Rotex, if not a Kapex for your solution.  I think the tipping of the saw is a problem, and Festool should correct it.  Your solution seems like a cost-effective, professional solution.  Now for a rant where I contradict my first sentence:

The one thing I absolutely hate about this forum - We present ideas and solutions, but we do not receive compensation for them.

I once found this graphic design blog that talked about the problems with design contests.  The blog owner advised graphic designers NOT to participate in contests, even if there are prizes.  His reasoning was that once you submit an idea, the contest holder either owns that idea, or can take all the ideas, evaluate them, and come up with an improvement on the ideas all with NO COMPENSATION!  It was a "free" way for the poster to have people do work for them, which they would later market or take credit for.

After reading that blog post, I realized that the guy was right.  I changed my whole philosophy on providing feedback and how I dealt with companies.  Quid pro quo - I provide you an idea, and if you market it and make money off of it, then at least give me something for it.  If not, I'm not going to expend my intellectual capital providing something that will enrich you, but not provide any compensation to me.  Festool charges a kings ransom for what they produce.  They are very proud of their intellectual capital.    Us common folk, however, shouldn't be so proud of our intellectual capital and should provide these ideas for "free".

What really drives me insane about Festool is that it seems that Festool has an incredibly tight and arrogant policy about pricing, "comps" and so forth.  Yes, there is good service, but it seems like the ideas and compensation only seems to go one way.  You provide the ideas, they produce the products and then turn around and charge you a king's ransom for them.  There may be some sort of "legal" reason for not providing compensation, but I think that could be remedied with a simple release at time of compensation.

Also, I am amazed that many of the members are so accepting of the philosophy of "those who pay for the tools give", while those who "are paid for the tools take".  Remember my posts complaining about the rail damaged in shipment?  I received a lot of feedback that I should take the hit and should just deal with it, and still let the dealer collect the full amount.  "Those are the chances you take", "accidents happen so deal with it" and other feedback was provided.  Again, I had to "give" while others got to "take" seemed to be the accepted attitude.

As bad and un-community-ish as this sounds, I would advise people not to provide fixes or ideas for solving these problems until we start receiving some reasonable compensation for them.  And a tape measure or t-shirt is not reasonable compensation.
If Festool is so proud of their Research and Development, and they charge us for it, then allow them to earn it.  Don't give it to them.  If we want to be a community, lets stop the one way game of "everybody get's paid, except for you".

My rant is over.
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Maybe,but Festool never ask us to come up with those ideas!!!!
 
JohnDistai said:
As bad and un-community-ish as this sounds, I would advise people not to provide fixes or ideas for solving these problems until we start receiving some reasonable compensation for them.  And a tape measure or t-shirt is not reasonable compensation.
If Festool is so proud of their Research and Development, and they charge us for it, then allow them to earn it.  Don't give it to them.  If we want to be a community, lets stop the one way game of "everybody get's paid, except for you".

My rant is over.
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I think you'll find most people here are glad to provide help and solutions for others, if they weren't this forum wouldn't be nearly as beneficial as it currently is, IMO.
 
I may be wrong but---
I don't know of any product added to Festool's accessory line based upon postings here on the FOG. Could they duplicate some of Qwas's products for example and quickly have them on market? You bet but they have not done so.

I really appreciate that Festool listens to us for future product improvements and actually seems to use some of them. Just wish other companies would ask their customer base for ideas for improvement. Honda is the only company I can think of that has ever polled me for feedback what I would like to see changed and improved on future models.
 
JohnDistai said:
Thank you for providing these ideas.  I like your suggestion about getting at least a Rotex, if not a Kapex for your solution.  I think the tipping of the saw is a problem, and Festool should correct it.  Your solution seems like a cost-effective, professional solution.  Now for a rant where I contradict my first sentence:

..........

If Festool is so proud of their Research and Development, and they charge us for it, then allow them to earn it.  Don't give it to them.  If we want to be a community, lets stop the one way game of "everybody get's paid, except for you".

My rant is over.
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JohnDistai, I have very little regard for the mentality you display here. You seem like the type of guy who'd put a coin slot on a mother's breast when her newborn wants a drink. [scratch chin]

This is a community where people exchange ideas and learn from each other on a free and open basis. Like people have done for ages. This is not some sort of milk cow for Festool where we do the work and they get the earnings. Everybody here earns something by learning from eachother's know-how and enjoying eachother's comradeship.

Oh, and before I forget: I remember I made a couple of posts here putting forward some of my personal ideas. John, you must have read some of them. Perhaps even benefited by them, if not from my ideas, then probably from somebody else's. Now I checked my bank account to be absolutely sure, but I haven't seen a deposit from you. I somehow have a feeling nobody else here got one either. As it should be, I might add.

 
mastercabman said:
Maybe, but Festool never ask us to come up with those ideas!!!!
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Well in this case they forced me to!  Their product has a problem with tipping when it is on the 45.  And I was the one who suffered from it (when it fell) I needed this not to happen again and Festool didn't provide a solution so i did my self.  They do provide that if your saw tips in the first 30 days you can return it.  I didn't make the solution for Festool I did it because Festool didn't make one for me. 
After My idea was passed on by Rick Bush.  I  made a simple vid took some pic's and keep it in my box and use it whenever I cut bevels.  I posted it here http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-jigs-tool-enhancements/ts-55-angle-stop/msg70708/#msg70708  because I did want to share the idea with other users.

Craig

 
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