TKS 80 poor dust extraction

[ch9sab]

Hi all,

I’ve owned a TKS80 for about a year and had several problems already (misfiring sawstop, blocked tilt) but have always experienced poor dust extraction. I used to just have it hooked up to a shop vac which didn’t seem sufficient and wasn’t working too well so I bought a Laguna dust extractor. Even when I hook it up directly to the TKS 80 via about 1m of hose I still get piles of sawdust accumulating on the floor underneath the saw. I know it’s never going to be completely dust free but it’s way more than I would expect given I’ve got a powerful extractor directly connected.

I’ve checked the ports for leaks which are minimal and the connections are not blocked. The extractor is working perfectly.

Any experience with this issue and how to solve it?

 

[Peter_C]

First of all pretty much all table saws throw dust around. I have a BASIS 6 with a TS75 in it. Since it is designed to tilt 45* min, it has a gap on the blade side. A piece of cardboard, plastic, or plywood helps to keep the dust down by increasing suction which increases collection.

I have a decent 3hp cyclone dust collector, and would never consider hooking it to a Festool table saw as it requires a far higher air speed than a 4" port dust collector can provide. A shop vac or Festool dust collector is preferable.

One of the biggest improvements is to use overhead dust collection on the guard. This goes for ALL table saws. My Unisaw spits dust everywhere without the overhead dust collection hooked up at which point it drops off substantially.

Otherwise I am not really familiar with the TKS 80. Good luck!

 

[Mini Me]

Hi all,

I’ve owned a TKS80 for about a year and had several problems already (misfiring sawstop, blocked tilt) but have always experienced poor dust extraction. I used to just have it hooked up to a shop vac which didn’t seem sufficient and wasn’t working too well so I bought a Laguna dust extractor. Even when I hook it up directly to the TKS 80 via about 1m of hose I still get piles of sawdust accumulating on the floor underneath the saw. I know it’s never going to be completely dust free but it’s way more than I would expect given I’ve got a powerful extractor directly connected.

I’ve checked the ports for leaks which are minimal and the connections are not blocked. The extractor is working perfectly.

Any experience with this issue and how to solve it?

What size hose and what Laguna, a few pics would help as well. Done well a TS should very little dust from cutting.

 

[ch9sab]

Hi all,

I’ve owned a TKS80 for about a year and had several problems already (misfiring sawstop, blocked tilt) but have always experienced poor dust extraction. I used to just have it hooked up to a shop vac which didn’t seem sufficient and wasn’t working too well so I bought a Laguna dust extractor. Even when I hook it up directly to the TKS 80 via about 1m of hose I still get piles of sawdust accumulating on the floor underneath the saw. I know it’s never going to be completely dust free but it’s way more than I would expect given I’ve got a powerful extractor directly connected.

I’ve checked the ports for leaks which are minimal and the connections are not blocked. The extractor is working perfectly.

Any experience with this issue and how to solve it?

What size hose and what Laguna, a few pics would help as well. Done well a TS should very little dust from cutting.

It’s a Laguna B Flux 1HP with a 10cm hose. There’s a significant size reduction to get it hooked up to the TKS but the shop vac wasn’t doing the job so figured I needed more power to properly provide suction across the volume of the blade housing unit

 

[Mini Me]

100mm/10cm = 4" for the non metric amongst us but as soon as you reduce to your smaller size the whole hose defaults to that size. It needs to be 100mm all the way and that is the problem you will have to resolve before anything else. Sorry for the bad news but there is no other answer.

 

[tsmi243]

If it's got a 2.5" port, you really need to use a shop vac or a CT.  You need more static pressure than any 4" system is gonna have (except maybe the Supercell?  We have a thread going on that one here somewhere). 

You said you tried a "shop vac" already, but the different in performance between different models is pretty staggering.  So unless you're sure it was a good one, I'd say you should try again.  Use a full-bore 2.5" hose like the full-size shop vacs come with, even the 36mm Festool hose is going to be too small. 

Nevermind- not a 2.5" port I see

 

[Mini Me]

I have considered using a whole house central vacuum extractor with a 50mm (or 40mm??) or the imperial equivalents ducted system using swimming pool pipe though I don't know if that would have more performance than a normal vacuum but they do have some sort of remote control I would think.

 

[Cheese]

I'd go back to the basics, Festool designed this saw to efficiently remove the saw dust with these specific instructions:

"The TKS 80 EBS has two vacuum connections with bayonet coupling:
An upper vacuum connection [10-1] with a di­ameter of 27 mm and a lower vacuum connec­tion [10-4] with a diameter of 36 mm.
The extractor set [10-3] joins both vacuum con­nections to enable a Festool mobile dust ex­tractor with an adapter of 50 mm in diameter to be connected."

 

[ch9sab]

I'd go back to the basics, Festool designed this saw to efficiently remove the saw dust with these specific instructions:

"The TKS 80 EBS has two vacuum connections with bayonet coupling:
An upper vacuum connection [10-1] with a di­ameter of 27 mm and a lower vacuum connec­tion [10-4] with a diameter of 36 mm.
The extractor set [10-3] joins both vacuum con­nections to enable a Festool mobile dust ex­tractor with an adapter of 50 mm in diameter to be connected."

So one year later I went back to the basics and bought a Festool CTL midi. It hasn’t improved the dust collection at all. Any time I make a cut there’s a considerable pile of sawdust underneath the saw.

Anyone ever managed to fix this?