TS-55 vs TS-75 Dust Collection

blackfish

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I've been debating back and forth between these two saws, and at the end of the day the pros and cons of each balance out for me.  Dust collection, however, is very important to me.  Does anyone have any experience on whether dust collection is better on one saw vs the other?  I prefer to use the 27mm hose, if that makes any difference.
 
I don't have any experience with the 75, but I can tell you that the TS 55 REQ has excellent dust collection.  I would guess that the TS75 is comparable.
 
I have and use both. I notice no difference in dust collection.

If you cut along the edge of a piece and the blade is not covered by the work piece on each side dust collection is not that good.

Tom
 
Welcome to the forum.

I will echo what Tom said, they are virtually identical in the area of dust extraction. There's no perceivable difference.

Weight, physical size and cut capacity should help you decide. Festool has a 30-day money back guarantee if you buy one and decide that you would have rather gotten the other in the first 30 days.

Shane
 
The TS75 is massive compared to the 55. If you aren't regularly cutting 8/4+ material, I don't see why you'd get a TS75.
 
tjbnwi said:
I have and use both. I notice no difference in dust collection.

If you cut along the edge of a piece and the blade is not covered by the work piece on each side dust collection is not that good.

Tom

True but it's still better than nothing. Taping a piece of cardboard on the side of the saw helps some, a dust shield of sorts
 
Dan- said:
The TS75 is massive compared to the 55. If you aren't regularly cutting 8/4+ material, I don't see why you'd get a TS75.

About 3 lbs difference, the weight rides on the track just the same, no biggie.

There is also a bit of difference in the start and stop space on the track, the 55 being smaller needs less track overhang on the workpiece, it's not much but IIRC can make a difference as to which track to buy. For example using the 55" track to cut 4' ply with the TS75 needs a bit of a plunge cut at the start which can cause a bit of kick, as such I typically use the 75" and 118" guide rails when cutting up full 4x8 sheet goods with my TS75.
 
Paul G said:
tjbnwi said:
I have and use both. I notice no difference in dust collection.

If you cut along the edge of a piece and the blade is not covered by the work piece on each side dust collection is not that good.

Tom

True but it's still better than nothing. Taping a piece of cardboard on the side of the saw helps some, a dust shield of sorts

I just use my hand.

Tom
 
That's great info, thanks.  Sounds like if I only want one saw, it may make sense to go with the TS75.  I've been using one the past few days, and it certainly would be nice  to have something smaller though.  I'm slightly disappointed with the dust collection but if it's the same on TS55 then that's ok.

The only other saw in my shop is a bandsaw.  I'll be using this for sheet gold maybe 25% of the time, the rest of the time will be cross cutting and edge jointing hardwoods.

I've read that the TS55 can do all of that with the right blade, but I'm a tad skeptical...
 
tjbnwi said:
Paul G said:
tjbnwi said:
I have and use both. I notice no difference in dust collection.

If you cut along the edge of a piece and the blade is not covered by the work piece on each side dust collection is not that good.

Tom

True but it's still better than nothing. Taping a piece of cardboard on the side of the saw helps some, a dust shield of sorts

I just use my hand.

Tom
I'm not in the habit of putting my hand so close to the blade, YMMV.
 
tjbnwi said:
I have and use both. I notice no difference in dust collection.

If you cut along the edge of a piece and the blade is not covered by the work piece on each side dust collection is not that good.

Tom

In fact it's terrible.

If you have a scrap the same thickness and length just place it alongside the edge being trimmed and dust collection will be good.
 
I find that is the same with the Makita and other Track Saws as well.

I always thought someone could come up with some kind of drop down device on the saw that raises or lowers itself to cover that edge as the saw moves along.  I am not sure exactly how to make it work since there are so many types of cuts, but someone smarter than me can come up with it. I have an air scrubber right above the place in the shop I do that type of cutting along with one above my miter station and one centrally located, still that one type of track saw cut throws far more dust than any other tool in my shop right now..
 
I use  National Guard Products brush weatherstrip with a one inch brush, drilled and tapped two 12/24 holes to attach.  NGP makes brushes all the way to 4"...I use the 4" to trap the dust around my table saw overhead collector.
 
I used the TS75 for a few weeks before going back to the TS55. I use mine mostly on the MFT and, while the extra weight doesn't come into play while cutting, I found it more cumbersome to handle when picking up and placing on the track. No big deal, but I found I didn't really need the extra cutting capacity anyway.

Also, I changed hoses from the 27mm to the larger 35mm hose during the time I used the TS75 because I did find that the larger hose did a better job with dust collection on the larger saw. Since I now have the larger hose ready, I still use it on the TS55. I don't think it makes much difference on the smaller saw. However, my experience would indicate that, if you use the larger saw you will notice better dust collection with the larger hose. Seems like others disagree but . . .
 
It really depends on what you are sawing and in what direction. Or in short; what size the particles are. If large strips of wood are sheared off, they can easily block the D27 hose, since it's frontal area (seen from the saw side) provides a support for these particles to block the hose. Design wise that could have been different on the side of the saw, but that would also block most of the D36 hose advantages.

I do have a D36 hose, and I mainly use it with the DHL 65 planer. But depending on the material, I also use it on the TS 55. But it really depends on the material, and the direction (relative to the grain) of the cut.

On the TS55 vs TS75; Weight & size. Effective maximum cut length is less for same rail size. If you try to cut out a square piece in a plate (so max saw depth), the blade will stick out more, etc.

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In-store, I've seen more people deciding to get the 55 instead of the 75 that they had their mind set on earlier than vice versa.

If 98% of the cuts can be made with the 55, you might get away by doing double sided cuts for the remaining 2%. If you cut so much that you have a lot of these... buy both  [tongue]
 
If you have access to a 3D printer, I designed a cover plate to improve dust collection on the TS-75.  It just snaps into the opening in the side of the saw and looks a lot better than duct tape  [big grin]

You can download the design for free on thingiverse
http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1347895
 
jbasen said:
If you have access to a 3D printer, I designed a cover plate to improve dust collection on the TS-75.  It just snaps into the opening in the side of the saw and looks a lot better than duct tape  [big grin]

You can download the design for free on thingiverse
http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1347895

Stuff like this makes me want a 3-D printer! But that will buy a whole lot of duck tape  [big grin]
 
You don't have to buy a printer yourself these days.  There are plenty of printing services that will print one for you.  I heard that even some UPS stores offer printing services. 
 
Paul G said:
jbasen said:
If you have access to a 3D printer, I designed a cover plate to improve dust collection on the TS-75.  It just snaps into the opening in the side of the saw and looks a lot better than duct tape  [big grin]

You can download the design for free on thingiverse
http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1347895

Stuff like this makes me want a 3-D printer! But that will buy a whole lot of duck tape  [big grin]
You are overthinking it. Make one using scissors from a piece of plastic packaging.http://festoolownersgroup.com/festo...imple-ts-7555-dust-cover/msg230611/#msg230611
 
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