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andy5405 said:
TS 55R (Updated TS55)
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Hello! This is my first post on FOG. Andy 5404 said the TS55 was under powered when ripping. I thought so to, till I fitted a rip blade. No burning, or cutting out through overheating. The problem I have now, is on soft wood. The wast comes off as long thin ribbon's. They don't extract very well and eventually clog the inside of the saw.
As for the splinter guard, I brought one a couple of weeks ago but haven't fitted it. Removing the old one in one piece was OK. I left the original double sided tape on, put a new length of tape on. And put the old splinter guard back on sitting out a couple of mm. Put the rail on a scrap board, run the saw down it, as good as new. The saw's about four years old. It hasn't done a million miles yet, but it gets plenty of work.
If I lost it tomorrow I'd definitely buy the same again.
As for the splinter guard, I brought one a couple of weeks ago but haven't fitted it. Removing the old one in one piece was OK. I left the original double sided tape on, put a new length of tape on. And put the old splinter guard back on sitting out a couple of mm. Put the rail on a scrap board, run the saw down it, as good as new. The saw's about four years old. It hasn't done a million miles yet, but it gets plenty of work.
If I lost it tomorrow I'd definitely buy the same again.
Hi,
Something that doesn't really make sense for me, apart of the lack of higher profile for Mafell (which has been noticed several times up here) is why they don't go the "system way" that has been so successful for Festool. They have the plunge saw, the routers, the vac's, just to mention a few. Would they take advantage of their excellent tools in a system, they could hit a spot. But for now, it looks that take another road. Strange for me.
Part of the feeling I got that they may probably miss an opportunity, there, is that the very first tool I bought for my "festool system" was... the MT55cc
I'm fairly new to woodworking and after lots of readings for a comparison between the available plunge saws, i went for the Mafell, with no regret. It was ten months ago.
But very soon, I needed to complete the system: I then bought a MFT/3, then two festool routers, the MFS and hopefully, more to come. And the Mt55 is part of it. Works perfectly with the festool guide rail (even the lateral adjustments are effective). But such a shame that the cool features of the thinner 160cm Mafell rail are not available on the festool ones. Same for the second track that JMB mentionned earlier.
Wonder what would happen if Mafell went the "system way" as well. A healthy rivalry in features not only in the tools but in the system itself would certainly sparks new innovative heights in the Festool labs. Which would certainly please lots of us form the FOG lol.
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Something that doesn't really make sense for me, apart of the lack of higher profile for Mafell (which has been noticed several times up here) is why they don't go the "system way" that has been so successful for Festool. They have the plunge saw, the routers, the vac's, just to mention a few. Would they take advantage of their excellent tools in a system, they could hit a spot. But for now, it looks that take another road. Strange for me.
Part of the feeling I got that they may probably miss an opportunity, there, is that the very first tool I bought for my "festool system" was... the MT55cc
I'm fairly new to woodworking and after lots of readings for a comparison between the available plunge saws, i went for the Mafell, with no regret. It was ten months ago.
But very soon, I needed to complete the system: I then bought a MFT/3, then two festool routers, the MFS and hopefully, more to come. And the Mt55 is part of it. Works perfectly with the festool guide rail (even the lateral adjustments are effective). But such a shame that the cool features of the thinner 160cm Mafell rail are not available on the festool ones. Same for the second track that JMB mentionned earlier.
Wonder what would happen if Mafell went the "system way" as well. A healthy rivalry in features not only in the tools but in the system itself would certainly sparks new innovative heights in the Festool labs. Which would certainly please lots of us form the FOG lol.
- plouf -
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mafell routers plunge saws and jigsaws work with Mafell rails and dust collectors just like festool. I feel festool routers are better but I don't know to much about mafell routers. the MT55 will work with festool rails as well, and of course dust collectors
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edh/chippy,
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[welcome] to the FOG!
Is the release in US a long way off? IF it's just a few months, I'd wait for it (why not, any improvement is still an improvement for roughly the same cost as what the price will be next month) but it's it's much longer than I don't think I want to wait since I've started to buy into the system and that's a pretty basic component for the core set.
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hobbes said:
I had the same question - was going to wait but figured it might be quite a while and I needed it now (of course). But I'm still interested in a date for realease
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hockey_magnet said:
You never know how Festool will get new tools to N. America. There was a long delay to get the CT26/36, Planex and we still don't have the Carvex.
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Brice Burrell said:
You'd have to think though that the R will flat out replace the current model since they are almost identical and it wouldn't make sense to have to such similar products in production,
hockey_magnet said:
Given what OP said may be the price in Euro that loosely translates to the current price (plus March markup). If it's in April timeframe, it'd be worth the wait, but with my luck I'll buy and 2 months later it'll get released. So there's no set time internal between Europe release vs. US release huh? Carvex was delayed for quality reasons so that may be an unexpected scenario.
I mentioned that I was advising the guy I work with on plunge saws. He has used all my Festool gear and loves it including the TS. I sent him a link to this thread and his current view is the best combination would be Festool rails (plus accessories in time to build a system) with the Mafell saw. I can't say that he would be making a bad choice and my only serious reservation would be the lack of a plug-it cord on the Mafell. I have enough fun stopping an integrated hose and power lead from catching in all the wrong places. (for integrated read insulation tape used to fix power lead to hose)
It would always be possible to convert the Mafell using the Plug-it conversion kit ( Festool part no: 491144 ) but that would probably invalidate the warranty. It could also be possible to find out if Mafell would carry out the conversion themselves and still maintain the warranty.
If they could do the above my two remaining reservations would be the lack of riving knife (could someone explain the implications of that one?) and in the UK Festool's free tool insurance counts for a lot.
Festool - new tool in the event of theft
I still think Festool will be fine despite many learned FOG members believing that Festool got it seriously wrong with the upgrade. However they are not always that bright, they did design a rail saw with a scale that doesn't work with the rail.
It would always be possible to convert the Mafell using the Plug-it conversion kit ( Festool part no: 491144 ) but that would probably invalidate the warranty. It could also be possible to find out if Mafell would carry out the conversion themselves and still maintain the warranty.
If they could do the above my two remaining reservations would be the lack of riving knife (could someone explain the implications of that one?) and in the UK Festool's free tool insurance counts for a lot.
Festool - new tool in the event of theft
I still think Festool will be fine despite many learned FOG members believing that Festool got it seriously wrong with the upgrade. However they are not always that bright, they did design a rail saw with a scale that doesn't work with the rail.
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andy5405 said:
Yeah the warranty thing keeps festool ontop of the game especially the stolen for new!
The riving knife has been discussed in a separate topic! Mafel have done certain things to the saw so it does not need a riving knife and is still safe use.
Jmb
Dear JMB
The riving knife is an essential feature of this type of saw - not just for safety but for stability along the cut, prevention of binding (as the wood twists) and accuracy. Anyone who uses a table saw without one is either nuts or has a desire to meet their maker sooner than they should.
A riving knife is particularly important with a thin kerf blade.
Peter
The riving knife is an essential feature of this type of saw - not just for safety but for stability along the cut, prevention of binding (as the wood twists) and accuracy. Anyone who uses a table saw without one is either nuts or has a desire to meet their maker sooner than they should.
A riving knife is particularly important with a thin kerf blade.
Peter
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hobbes said:
There are any number of factors that go into the decision of when to release a new tool here. They seem to satisfy demand over (and the rest of the world) before they change over to make our 120v version of the tool. Of course when there's a new model inventory levels of the current model plays a role. If Festool USA is sitting a large stock pile of TS55 saws it might be awhile before we get the new one.
The track record is about a year for us to get the new tools. There have been the (very) rare exceptions, like the OF2200 router and the CT48 vac, where we've gotten the news right away. However, I'd very surprised if we see the TS55R any sooner than this fall at the earliest.
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Its not a new saw! Its just a make over. [smile] Information will be released on March 1st , you will see what I mean then.
I to believed that a riving knife was an essential but I no long know if this is the case after Maffell`s statement in the other post.
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I to believed that a riving knife was an essential but I no long know if this is the case after Maffell`s statement in the other post.
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Didn't they increase the rpm's by 1? Hopefully for Festool's sake, nobody takes the 'R' in the name as "Reconditioned". [big grin]
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Stone Message said:
I did reply to your post but removed it due to the likelihood of my post either being deleted, thread being locked or going way of topic.
This will then result in Guy Ashley throwing a mardy. [tongue]
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Peter.
See thread
Festool tools and Accessories who needs a riving knife, some where in the thread is a Statement from mafell regarding the lack of riving knife on MT55. After reading this I am now uncertain about the necessity of the knife after a life time of certainty
John
Every one please note this statement refers to the MT55 ONLY!!!
See thread
Festool tools and Accessories who needs a riving knife, some where in the thread is a Statement from mafell regarding the lack of riving knife on MT55. After reading this I am now uncertain about the necessity of the knife after a life time of certainty
John
Every one please note this statement refers to the MT55 ONLY!!!
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