TS55, OF1400 and OF1010 Imperial Depth Scale.

[rrmccabe]

OK, I tried to get used to it. But couldn't take it any longer.

I think I am going to switch colors but need to order new label material.

This is stuff I use outdoors with great success.

 

[Rick Christopherson]

Just to be slightly heartless....why?.....because I can.  [big grin] [big grin] [tongue] [tongue]

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[Corwin]

Remember this thread? 

Imperial Ruler for TS55

 

[atlr]

label

I like your label design more than Festool's. The numerics are helpful.

 

[rrmccabe]

Yea Rick you are heartless !

But I am not buying a new saw

I never saw the other thread about the ruler.

I have been tweaking on it. I think there is room for both mm and inches.

 

[Rick Christopherson]

Yeah, I know. Shame on me!  [big grin] But you've gotta admit the irony of posting this on the day of release of the REQ. I just grabbed one of the images out of the manual, which has only been out for a couple of days itself.

I do admit that the graphics on your sticker are pretty impressive, though.  [thumbs up]

 

[rrmccabe]

But you've gotta admit the irony of posting this on the day of release of the REQ.

What do you think prompted me to make the sticker  [tongue]

7AM I get email from Festool showing release of REQ.

7:01 I said I am tired of mm !

By 8:00 I had a scaled sticker printed and on the saw.  Haven't reprinted with my latest tweaks though.

 

[Rick Christopherson]

That's funny!. I was wondering why it took you 10 years to get tired of it. 
[dead horse]

You might find this odd, but the reason why there is no picture in the manual with the Imperial gauge fully installed is because I never fully committed to putting it on. I've gotten so accustomed to the metric depth that I don't think I want to install the Imperial gauge on my own saw.

I used to dislike the metric gauge, but what I later realized (with the REQ) was that I didn't like the extra 5mm I had to add. It wasn't the gauge, it was the 5mm's. So if you're going to print a new copy, I would recommend making it dual reading with the 5mm correction.

 

[JerrySats]

Nice job , you should sell them .

 

[rrmccabe]

I think this is probably my final revision.  One nice thing about replacing the scale is that I can re zero the scale with the track. My saw never is used without the track so zero now INCLUDES the track.

 

[Alan m]

how did you get the measurments to the right scale.
i often meant to do this to my ts55. obviously i would leave it metric

 

[Rick Christopherson]

how did you get the measurments to the right scale.
i often meant to do this to my ts55. obviously i would leave it metric

It depends on the software you are using. Obviously a CAD system would be easiest because they are intended to draw accurately and scale things accurately. If I were going to make this in something like Adobe Illustrator, which isn't quite as accurate as my CAD system (but allows for a fancier look), I would first create an accurate 2-inch ruler at 1:1 scale. I would set the screen grid to 1/16" and snap the lines to the grid. Then, I would turn the grid off and scale (stretch) the whole ruler to make the 2" hash mark be 3-29/32" (which is scaled by a factor of 1.953125).

On the other hand, I could also just draw the 0" and 2" marks 3-29/32" apart, and then randomly draw the graduations in between them. Then select all of the graduations and tell Illustrator to space them equally, which would still leave the two outside graduations where they originally were.

Edit: Oops. I also forgot that someone doing this wouldn't have the imperial scale sitting on their desk like I do. I also forgot that my numbers above are based on the TS 55 REQ. I'll make a new posting instead of editing this one with the proper technique.

 

[rrmccabe]

how did you get the measurments to the right scale.
i often meant to do this to my ts55. obviously i would leave it metric

I wrapped a piece of paper around current scale and marked zero and 55 mm and marks in between. I wanted to make sure the scale was linear. It was.

I scanned the paper into AutoCAD and did all the ruler marks in AutoCAD so they were exact. Exported the CAD file as an image which I brought into my label program.  The import was not perfect but all I had to do was scale up to get the zero and 55mm to line up perfect. This was a trial and error and had to make 2 test prints to get it dead nuts.

 

[Rick Christopherson]

Ok, I first verified that both the TS 55 EQ and TS 55 REQ use the same scale. Using a flexible ruler, I measured the distance between the 0 and 55mm graduations. These were 108.5 mm apart. This will give you your scale factor to use in whatever software you use. 108.5/55 = 1.9727. Yes, I am aware this scale-factor is different from the imperial scale-factor I measured previously. They are both close, but I believe this one is more accurate.

I would still do the same thing I described above. I would draw an accurate ruler at 1:1 scale, and that is regardless whether it included metric, imperial, or both. Then I would scale that drawing (in length only) by 1.9727. Depending on the software, you may want to do this scaling before you add your text to the ruler so it doesn't stretch your text too.

 

[Svar]

I wanted to make sure the scale was linear. It was.

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- The scale on TS is not linear. Spaces between tick marks at the beginning of the scale are greater than at the end of the scale (at least on TS75). This is because angular movement of the motor assembly is not linearly related to the depth of cut. It's a sine function.

 

[rrmccabe]

Hmmm...

So you saying its possible that people could order a REQ replacement and cut it down width wise?  

 

[rrmccabe]

The scale on TS is not linear. Spaces between tick marks at the beginning of the scale are greater than at the end of the scale. This is because angular movement of the motor assembly is not linearly related to the depth of cut.

Let me check my scan because I am pretty sure they were.

 

[Rick Christopherson]

I wanted to make sure the scale was linear. It was.

The scale on TS is not linear. Spaces between tick marks at the beginning of the scale are greater than at the end of the scale (at least this is the case on TS75). This is because angular movement of the motor assembly is not linearly related to the depth of cut.

According to my measurements on the TS55 REQ, the scale is linear. I suspect the TS55 EQ will be the same, but I don't want to run back down to the workshop to verify that.

Oh, you said TS75, so I guess I better go down to the shop to check that one too......................Yes, those graduations are also linear. I didn't measure what the scale actually was on the TS75 though, but it is linear. So is the TS55EQ and TS55REQ.

 

[rrmccabe]

Attached is my scan and lines perfectly spaced in CAD. My pencil marks are not perfect but it really doesn't matter as they would we way off if the scale was NOT linear.

 

[Rick Christopherson]

Hmmm...

So you saying its possible that people could order a REQ replacement and cut it down width wise?  

Yes, Shane even mentioned that a couple weeks ago. The sticker is available as a separate part for ordering. You either need to cut the width down, or let it overlap the joint between the plastic and metal.

Come to think of it, if you cut the width down and stick it only to the metal, you could probably keep both metric and imperial scales visible. However, I have not looked at that to see how well it would work.