TXS over the CXS

[Debug]

I have both a CXS and TXS.  I bought the CXS a few years ago and the TXS when they came out.  I like the feel of the TXS slightly more than the CXS.  The only other difference I found between the two, other than the feel, is that the TXS holds less bits on board versus the CXS.  I use both drills for just about everything and have never found them underpowered.  The only time I ever use a larger drill or impact (both Makita) is when I'm punching a fairly large hole in something or need extra oomph (like for a lag bolt)... which isn't that often. 

 

[Ryan Bos]

Also a huge fan of the CXS.  Bought it primarily for putting on cabinet handles, but find myself using it for almost all the fastening requirements in cabinet installation.  I still have my Makita drills lingering in the background in case some heavy duty work pops up.  Was also quite pleased to find out that the clip it comes will slides perfectly into the corner of the festool open tool boxes.

Cheers

 

[yetihunter]

Since the TXS/CXS 10.8V batteries don't have any compatibility with the rest of the Festool product offering, why limit yourself to Festool for your small form factor drill?

The Milwaukee 12V line has a plethora of cheaper, high quality tools all using the same 12V batteries.  Plus, many are BRUSHLESS!

I think I'd only get the TXS/CXS for a matching systainer and potential Centrotec overlap with their Festool bigger brothers, which I don't own.  In reality, any money you save on Milwaukee could go to a red Tanos systainer if it really matters to have a stack of plastic containers.

Edit: Take a look at this thread:http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-tools-accessories/wood-magazine-12v-cordless-drill-shop-test/

Because Festool is the only company that gets the point of having a small drill/driver.
I'd wage my soul that the T18 can get into places that the other brands' 12v's cannot, let alone the CXS/TXS.  Not to mention that the small format Festool drills don't have cumbersome and massively thick handles throwing off the balance. 

That said, I haven't seen anybody else using anything but the M12 drills out in the wild; and they're perfectly content. 

 

[yetihunter]

Not being a professional I have the luxury of waiting for the TXS to fail before upping the voltage (or going corded) which begs the question DRC or T 18+3? Please does anyone know if there's a thread already posted on this? Cheers

Both.  [big grin]

 

[parablade]

OK, so it looks like the honeymoon may have come to an abrupt halt as I've now been rudely acquainted with something called "run-out" (wtf?... on a AUD415 Festool!).  I'd be very grateful for someone's verification as to whether the TXS I've been supplied is a dud or not (so it can go back to the supplier within the 30 days if it is).  Please review the short (but desperately dull) video (apologies now for its lack of plot and pace) and provide feedback here (and not on YouTube).  Muchas gracias, amigos!:

 

[Peter Durand]

What is run-out?

 

[mrboult]

The video is rather poor quality on my end but I would say your drill is perfectly normal. When either of the chucks are attached the runout looks almost imperceptible, as to be expected. When you simply have the bit holder directly in the drill (or angle attachment) without any chuck, then you should expect significant runout as the tolerances are not fine enough to expect anything else.

It is nice to have the option to put hex bits directly into the drills, but runout should be expected.

 

[parablade]

Thanks, mrB. The only caveat I should add is that run-out (now that I understand the term) on our AUD79 Ozito is less percebtible, certainly with Fastfix/Jacob chuck equivalent. The Centrotec locking bit holder (BHS 65 CE) is of particular concern as it is crooked from where the head is affixed.

 

[parablade]

It WAS a dud! well half of the set was, at least.  Thanks to the great people down athttps://adelaidetools.com.au/festool-brand-page/drilling-fastening.html - they verified that both Centrotec and Fastfix/Jacob's chucks were sub-standard, as were both standard and locking Centrotec bit holders.  With 3+1 parts of the original set thought to be dud, the dealer suspected the spindle of the TXS might be to blame but a comparison against their demo model proved the demo model's spindle was more out of whack than mine!  Adelaide Tools graciously swapped out the dud bits (the South Aussie Festool sales rep will have a nasty-o-gram awaiting them on Monday) and so I left V relieved that I wasn't going mad.  One thing that couldn't be rectified though, was the Systainer tray insert which doesn't bite on either the Centrotec chuck or any of the bit holders.  Hiccups aside, I'm just chuffed to have a satisfactorily working kit (which enabled the construction of a beehive past dusk into the night care of that right angle attachment again and the TXS's great LED light casting no shadow.  So, thanks again to all who commented / assisted here.  This post is now closed (apologies for straying into the realm of a review - which I see is a separate section on FOG).  Adios

 

[parablade]

Addendum: Just discovered this tool reviewer par excellence on YouTube. Some might know his work already but this brushed vs brushless comparison is compelling (profanity warning)...
V happy my TXS is brushed now!

 

[bertv]

Yeah… Chris, Canadian and worldwise. I like his bideooos a lot. Not for the faint of heart, because he cuzzes a lot. Does not like woodworking (no margin of error in ww - he says). Makes a fair bit of doooeee on Patreon, so he is doing something ok.

 

[Huxleywood]

Addendum: Just discovered this tool reviewer par excellence on YouTube. Some might know his work already but this brushed vs brushless comparison is compelling (profanity warning)...
V happy my TXS is brushed now!

Man that is an old AvE teardown, back when he was almost sane and far less entertaining.  I am assuming if you take AvE's word without looking at the bigger picture you don't have nor would you consider a TS 55.

 

[#Tee]

CXS + ikea = dream [big grin]