UJK Parf Guide System - Videos

[Stoli]

It would still be interesting to compare this value to one from an MFT.  Then you can make quantifiable claims.

BTW, you pointed out the "squishiness" of the MFT as a factor in the measurement.  That is true.  The measurement is also more than just the errors in the layout.  How well the parf dogs fit in the holes, as well as your "process" (e.g. always pushing one one side) are included.

 

[Stone Message]

It would still be interesting to compare this value to one from an MFT.  Then you can make quantifiable claims.

BTW, you pointed out the "squishiness" of the MFT as a factor in the measurement.  That is true.  The measurement is also more than just the errors in the layout.  How well the parf dogs fit in the holes, as well as your "process" (e.g. always pushing one one side) are included.

The Parf Guide System uses a very precise "20 mm" drill which with the equally precise Veritas Parf and Small Bench Dogs produces an excellent fit. Those same dogs in the MFT move around a little more and hence may contribute to some loss of accuracy.

It is not right for me to criticise the Festool design as they did not originally intend the MFT3 to be used with dogs for accurate cutting - they have their own solution (which adds more than the cost of the PGS to the price).

Peter

 

[Stone Message]

I do have a question, I plan on making an assembly table with holes and would like to double up on the MDF for strength. Due to space constraints the table will also function as router table. Probably with the Incra LS as fence. Will the drill-bit be long enough for drilling 40 millimeter deep allowing me to screw fasten my parf dogs from underneath?

It was silly of me to think that you need to drill the dog holes all the way through. On my own mobile bench the place where the Parf Dogs go is 55 mm thick. I have drilled the 20 mm holes about 25 mm deep and then, by hand with no guide, continued those holes but with an 8mm brad point to allow for the bolt to fix the Parf Dogs in place.

I do not routinely fix the Veritas Small Bench Dogs in place and so those holes can just stop at about 25 mm. In my 4 cut test video the Small Dogs were just loose and not secured at all. The Parf Dogs were screwed from undersneath in the normal way.

Peter

 

[VW mick]

Hi Peter

Looks Like a very well thought out idea. I'm ok for holes at the moment but will definatly get one as the need arises. I could see it become addictive and every horizontal surface becoming peperd with holes

Just a thought. With another guide bush and drill bit and maybe a couple more holes it could it be used as a LR32 system ?

 

[Stone Message]

Hi Peter

Looks Like a very well thought out idea. I'm ok for holes at the moment but will definatly get one as the need arises. I could see it become addictive and every horizontal surface becoming peperd with holes

Just a thought. With another guide bush and drill bit and maybe a couple more holes it could it be used as a LR32 system ?

There will be some optional extras in due course to enhance the system as it stands.

Peter

 

[Ollie]

Hi Peter

I will certainly be getting this set up once they are back in stock.
It is simple and effective as are almost all the great ideas, a classic case of "why didn't I think of that".

I plan to make a new top for my MFT along with one for a set of Toughbuilt trestles to make a large sturdy portable set up.
Also I think I could use this in making jigs for use on the spindle moulder and all sorts of stuff.

I must say thank you for your excellent video content on youtube, I appreciate your thorough approach and unlike many other woodworking videos I am seldom left with more questions than answers at the end.
I wish you great success with your invention and hope to see more good woodworking content soon.

Ollie

 

[Stone Message]

Hi Ollie,

Thank you so much for your post - it has really made my day and has helped me decide to do the rest of the work on the first "PGS Xtras" video.

Cheers.

Peter

 

[Jonnio]

Thanks Peter for the 4 cut test. I was on the edge of my seat!! Dont think anyone would think you would cheat! Ive just ordered mine from axminsters on backorder to make myself one for my 8ft x 4ft workbench that ive just made with a completley coplanar surface. Cant wait. Keep up the good work, cheers. (Youtube subscriber, jwardimages)

 

[Stone Message]

Thanks Peter for the 4 cut test. I was on the edge of my seat!! Dont think anyone would think you would cheat! Ive just ordered mine from axminsters on backorder to make myself one for my 8ft x 4ft workbench that ive just made with a completley coplanar surface. Cant wait. Keep up the good work, cheers. (Youtube subscriber, jwardimages)

The only thing to watch on your 8 x 4 work bench is how to clamp the Parf Sticks as you create the core set of 3 mm holes (the first row along the top and the first two columns on the left and right). I can do this with my small collection so if you need help just say.

You will have to post some pictures when you are done.

Peter

 

[Jonnio]

Will do Peter. Thanks for the offer of help!

 

[marrt]

Brilliant!  Been waiting for something like this.  I placed an order on their website.  I'm in the US so we'll see what happens.

Tom

 

[clark_fork]

An eight page manual is now available on the UJK Technology website:
http://www.axminster.co.uk/media/downloads/102278_manual.pdf

This gets a "WOW" in my book.

Do I wait for Shane or just find out what ordering across the pond entails?

 

[Shane Holland]

Just an update... I have been in contact with Peter's affiliates to get information about importing the UJK. I am waiting for them to provide the necessary information to get the ball rolling. I will keep you posted as soon as I hear something. I suspect they are busy working to take care of domestic sales first. Hopefully, I will have some info soon.

 

[Michdad]

What a great system... I've been looking for a good solution to create accurate benchtop holes.

Could you tell me the shank diameter of the 20 bit? I have an idea to attach a spare  jacobs chuck to the drill bit to use as a quick release...

Thanks for all the great videos.
TIm from Michigan

 

[Stone Message]

What a great system... I've been looking for a good solution to create accurate benchtop holes.

Could you tell me the shank diameter of the 20 bit? I have an idea to attach a spare  jacobs chuck to the drill bit to use as a quick release...

Thanks for all the great videos.
TIm from Michigan

The shank is 10 mm - it is ground to get it precise for the bearings in the drill guide.

Peter

 

[Brian Livingstone]

Hi,

I want one !  I am in Canada, but my partner is going to be stopping in Heathrow for four hours in May enroute to Paris.  Any suggestions on how this could work ?  Are there any Festool dealers near Heathrow ?  Looking at the map of England it seems like a pretty small country (compared to Canada that is, no offence).

Thanks.

Brian

 

[joiner1970]

Hi,

I want one !  I am in Canada, but my partner is going to be stopping in Heathrow for four hours in May enroute to Paris.  Any suggestions on how this could work ?  Are there any Festool dealers near Heathrow ?  Looking at the map of England it seems like a pretty small country (compared to Canada that is, no offence).

Thanks.

Brian

Yes there are festool dealers near Heathrow but it's not a Festool product. Axminster are selling it and the nearest one is about 40 minutes drive from Heathrow in high Wycombe.

Will you're partner be able to leave the airport if they're just transferring ?

 

[Shane Holland]

Another update on our end... We will not be offering the Parf Guide System after all but wish Peter great success with his product.

 

[DB10]

Hi,

I want one !  I am in Canada, but my partner is going to be stopping in Heathrow for four hours in May enroute to Paris.  Any suggestions on how this could work ?  Are there any Festool dealers near Heathrow ?  Looking at the map of England it seems like a pretty small country (compared to Canada that is, no offence).

Thanks.

Brian

The UK might be small but Heathrow Airport is massive, there are 5 terminals, so unfortunately the stress you would cause to your partner trying to pull this one off would not be worth it, from what others are saying international delivery isn't too expensive on this product.

 

[Alan m]

you would be better off posting it to paris and getting her to bring it back.
airports are horrible places at the best of times without trying to track down a parcel