UK : Had a load of Festool stolen recently ?

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Just witnessed a large amount of Festool tools been sold at a market

in a Nut shell.

1.The small domino  kit with a  biscuit systainer  kit  (240v)
2.HUGE router with again a systainer full of attachments .( 240v??)
3.Midi dust extractor .(240v)
4.Slim planer (240v)
5.Jigsaw (18v )
6.18v SDS kit
7. 18V PDC kit
8.And one Plunge saw ,TS55 etc 240v  in Systainer

White hart Lane,London . sunday market

 
If you took down the serial numbers or got some photos of them Festool will run a check to see if they stolen...

What sort of prices were they asking for the items? that will be another clue to if they are stolen as even on eBay Festool 2nd hand prices are very high & items always sell, so if they legit eBay would be a much better way to sell them than a Sunday Market :-/
 
100% stolen..... lets just say I have mentioned this place before .It seems to be a MAJOR stolen tools place.  Also the guys selling dont take it the right way if you start taking pics or writing down numbers etc .  But they all have one thing in common , they "Travel" a lot in vans .

The Domino complete set went for about £180
 
I have been burgled 5 times in 3 years, organised and targeted towards my out buildings. The local police are wise to markets and often send an officer undercover. The last time I was burgled they went to all the local markets the following weekend, sadly they didn't find my tools or RC car gear but they did make one arrest for handling stolen goods (tools) as some of the tools they found had security markings that they had catalogued.

I would urge anyone even with the Festool Insurance to security mark their tools and photograph them, if the unfortunate happens it can be invaluable  to police carrying out such operations and help them take real action.
 
ben_r_ said:
antss said:
You might want to look into a marking system like this :
http://www.datadotusa.com/technology.htm

I'm not sure if they have a UK operation, but I'll bet there's a competitor if they dont' .
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How is that any better than just recording the serial number?!
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From what I understand from viewing their website the Datadot number is registered to you. It's placed on the tool in multiple places (by you) and tough for thieves to spot. Police can find the Datadot number and search a database to find you. I don't believe there is a place you can register your tool serial numbers that Police can search and link the tool back to it owner. If there is such an option I would like to know about it.
 
[member=37411]Edward A Reno III[/member]  - yes.  http://www.datadotdna.com/product/datadotdna-personal-kit/

I've also seen them at Lowes and at least one tool store.

[member=22067]mrB[/member]  , [member=58821]ben_r_[/member]

Serial number is easy to obliterate.  These tags are removable , but you've got to find the darn things first. And that ain't easy.
 
Wow. Sounds fascinating. Also sounds a bit like the 'emperors new clothes'  [big grin]
 
Your correct.  It's all just a warm blanket for the folks that need comfort and security.

If the criminal wants your stuff , he's going to get it.  No serial #, dot system or hidden laser etch is going to stop him.  That Porsche you just lost and is in a container to S.America or E.Europe isn't helped one bit by all the xtra security measures you had installed on it.  It's gone
 
antss said:
Your correct.  It's all just a warm blanket for the folks that need comfort and security.

If the criminal wants your stuff , he's going to get it.  No serial #, dot system or hidden laser etch is going to stop him.  That Porsche you just lost and is in a container to S.America or E.Europe isn't helped one bit by all the xtra security measures you had installed on it.  It's gone
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Bingo.
 
What a sad world we live in.
It's the tradesmen and contractors buying them on the grey market that are  just as much to blame as the swine who stole it. Price paid overcomes any thought or concern for original owner. How often do you hear " it's ok he was insured" as some form of excuse. Damn it pi**** me off
 
I worked in a Porsche shop where we had a break in. They stole the Porsche closet to the door and loaded it with laptops, scan tools, and hand tools. All of our tool boxes were unlocked at the time. ALL of my tools are engraved in an ugly way, clearly identifying them to me. The guys next to me were not. Not one single tool of mine was stolen, but the guy next to me got most of his tools stolen.

Point being...engravers work! Ever tried to remove permanent marker from a Systainer? Gonna be real hard to do.
 
jools said:
What a sad world we live in.
It's the tradesmen and contractors buying them on the grey market that are  just as much to blame as the swine who stole it. Price paid overcomes any thought or concern for original owner. How often do you hear " it's ok he was insured" as some form of excuse. darn it pi**** me off
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Thats part of the issue . But the demand for good tools must be huge .As these markets are selling tens of thousands of pounds worth a day . And I have not even mentioned the Hilti  gear there !  . I think from what i could see . Most of this stuff ends up  on ebay etc. Nicely cleaned and polished etc  a few weeks later sold from another part of the Uk/london etc
 
antss said:
Your correct.  It's all just a warm blanket for the folks that need comfort and security.

If the criminal wants your stuff , he's going to get it.  No serial #, dot system or hidden laser etch is going to stop him.  That Porsche you just lost and is in a container to S.America or E.Europe isn't helped one bit by all the xtra security measures you had installed on it.  It's gone
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But if it is recovered, however slight that chance may be, marking your items greatly increases the chance your property gets back to you and doesn't sit in a police evidence or property room for 3 years then get sold at auction or tossed altogether.
 
I think very strong visual engraving is a great idea. Then you could even fill the engraving with a festool "green" to make it look "trick" !
 
LJD said:
I think very strong visual engraving is a great idea. Then you could even fill the engraving with a festool "green" to make it look "trick" !
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I agree but wish it was not necessary to deface your tools just to try to hang on to them. Many, many years ago I worked in an automotive shop and there were usually 4 or 5 mechanics employed. Turn over was a problem in that you had a new co-worker every few months it seemed. After a couple missing Snap-On ratchets I took to branding all my wrenches, sockets, etc with a couple blaze marks from the bench grinder. Made it quite obvious when one of your tools migrated into someone else's box. Never 'misplaced' a tool after that.
 
My Metabo has electronic anti-theft system that disables the tool. Does not prevent theft (unless clearly labeled to communicate this to the thief), but makes it hard to sell.
 
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