Unbreakable Pencils

ChuckM

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I have trouble with the finer leads breaking constantly so I ended up with the Pentel 0.9mm as my go-to. The barrel is 1.25mm, so I do end up needing to offset whatever rule or gauge I am using to compensate.

Can't remember the last time I used a wooden lead pencil though, mechanical are much better.

RMW
 
For me 0.5 is the best middle ground between thin line, readable mark and durability.

But I also have 0.9mm and 2mm in the shop, which I use for „rougher tasks“.

Do not underestimate the differences in lead quality. Some are more brittle, might make a nice art pencil, some are more flexible for the type of work you do in a shop. :)
 
I'm increasingly using a pen, Uni-Ball Jetstream 0.38.

Slightly wider than .3mm pencil but much more legible and never breaks.

Doesn't erase but at the marking stage there will usually be some subsequent sanding or planing anyway.
 
I went through 3 Delguard pencils before I gave up on them.  In each case the clip for hanging the pencil in your pocket broke off.  They didn’t offer any with metal clips. 

Since then I have switched to Staedtler Riptide pencils.  These are excellent, if not flashy nor having quite the tactile feel of my all aluminum Staedtler pencils.  It enjoys two advantages over the others.

First a thin metal tube extends to support the lead (most have this tube).  When you retract the lead, you also retract the thin metal tube.  I have the 7mm version.

Second, they sell for $6.27 for a package of 8 pencils along with extra erasers and leads.

I used it with the Delguard leads and with other leads that are break resistant, and they are all about the same.

THE MAJOR DISCOVERY I made was that I was holding the pencil all wrong.  Since grade school we are told to hold the pen or pencil at an angle.  For mechanical pencils, holding them at or nearly 90 degrees from the paper is all that is needed to keep the lead from breaking.

It takes some discipline and effort to change pencil angle, but after a while it becomes second nature. 

The most useful accessory I have found is the MARS eraser-pen.  Once you have used this you will never want to use the included eraser again.

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In my jacket pocket is a Zebra 701 pen with a Space Pen refill (required a slight modification to work), the RipTide pencil, and the Staedtler/Mars eraser pen.

The Space Pen refill works smoother than others I have tried, and is pressurized so that it will never leak, and it will write on vertical surfaces without skipping.  It also seems to work on oily paper. 

My recommendation is that you learn to hold your pencil nearly vertically, and replace your Delguard pencil with a RipTide pencil when the pocket clip snaps off.  The Delguard leads are very good and are break-resistant.  But there are others that are just as good and just as break-resistant.

And do yourself a favor and get the retractable eraser.

Note: Pentel also makes a “ClicEraser” that works well.  It has as smaller barrel and a smaller diamter eraser.  It also costs more (but not prohibitively).  I prefer the Staedtler/Mars version, but either one works well (and far better than the one in your pencil).

NOTE:  Even with the Delguard pencils, which basically have a built-in shock absorber to mitigate agains breakage, you will have fewer broken leads if you modify the angle in which you hold the pencil.
 
Packard said:
I went through 3 Delguard pencils before I gave up on them.  In each case the clip for hanging the pencil in your pocket broke off.  They didn’t offer any with metal clips.  Snip.

I have some mechanical pens that came with a plastic clip, and I put this on them so I can use magnets on them:
https://www.leevalley.com/en-ca/sho...clips-for-magnetic-pencil-holder?item=05N5202

For erasers, I use the original Made in USA Magic Rub, which are not easy to find these days (try eBay) as the newer ones, e.g., from Amazon, are imported and their quality is not the same, though the name is identical (but not the packaging):

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Even on paper I am death on .5 leads and .7 is iffy. I have generally settled on.9 mm leads. Like Richard I have a Pentel .9  ( well actually 2 since I can never seem to find just one)
https://www.officesupply.com/school...k-lead-yellow-barrel/p10486.html?q=pentel 9mm

I have taken to buying this pack for the shop:
https://www.walmart.com/ip/BIC-Xtra...77426?fulfillmentIntent=In-store&athbdg=L1100

I have a Kokuyo 1.3 mm waiting in the wings.
https://www.jetpens.com/Kokuyo-Enpi...CXhguISHaI_WDNsiQyVB1HPB2AHOt_tAaAnk8EALw_wcB

these folks are a fun stop if you like writing stuff.

www.jetpens.com

Ron

 
When using placement lines with the DF500, I mark them with either a 0.3mm or a 0.5mm pen so the lines are not a lot bigger than the scribed line (which is 0.3mm, to my eye) on the window:

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OK...maybe I'm a bit obsessed with precision. [big grin]

I have only two 0.3mm pencils (the other one is Pantel 120 A3 DX), but many many 0.5mm & 0.7mm mech. pencils that are scattered in the shop. Oh...I'm no carpenter, and never put a pencil behind my ear (or for that matter, in a pocket).  [tongue]
 

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I use 5, 7and 9 Pentals in the shop and Picas in my carpenter pants on installs
 
rvieceli said:
www.jetpens.com

Browsing that site is like being a kid in a candy store. So much cool stuff. It really triggers the former art school student dropout in me.

I mostly use 0.7 & 0.9 Pentel GraphGear 500s and have several scattered around the house and shop.

I've thought about pulling the trigger on a Rotring 600 in camo green for no other reason than they look so cool! Love the contrast with the orange font. [cool]
 
Pentel Twist-Erase .9mm is my go-to onsite...slightly tougher lead that breaks less frequently, and never needs sharpening!...0.7mm in the shop for finer lines
 
I got tired of constantly breaking those little leads. 
Got the Pica pencil.  2.8mm lead will not break unless you drop it, and it has a sharpener in the cap, so if you need a fine line
you can quickly get the point sharp.
Only time I now use my old mechanical pencils is when I have to say "where on earth did I put the green pencil?"  It's bright green, so it normally turns up soon enough.
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This is a new Pica 0.9 pencil.
I use it already for half a year and it's (very) good.
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heidtwd said:
Hands down, this is the best pencil I have ever used!
The ingenious lead sleeve really works just as described.
https://smile.amazon.com/Pentel-Mec...ref=sr_1_2?crid=360R515NTXAWS&keywords=pentel+orenz&qid=1676729762&sprefix=pentel+orenz%2Caps%2C106&sr=8-2

0.2mm! Interesting, but when would you use it in a woodworking context?

I found some on Amazon.ca. Once I reach the free shipping threshold, I'll pull the trigger.

Edit: Shot fired. These days, it's too easy to fill the basket to qualify for free shipping! [wink]
 
I have become a great fan of the Pica pencil too and always have one around. But for real precision I use a marking knife.
 
Truth be told: This is really an UNBREAKABLE mechanical pencil:

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because it doesn't use a lead, but a 2.0mm pointed steel pin. It is used as a "retractable" awl, such as for marking center points:

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The o.2mm Orenz is very interesting. I’ll get one to try out.

The only doubt I have about it is that when using it against a rule you run the tube against the rule instead of the lead so there is some amount of offset of the rule required to match lines. But you have to consider the offset required for thicker leads too. If 0 offset is desired I should just use a fine blade.
 
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