Vecturo - Wood Smoke

[Birdhunter]

I've been practicing/experimenting on scrap with my Vecturo.

Using the utility cutter with speed set on 4 (recommended on cutter), I am getting smoke from the wood.

I'm not pressing hard and I'm backing the cutter out of the cut to clear debris. The blade is clean and new. The cut is through 3/4" walnut.

Am I doing something wrong?

 

[Brice Burrell]

That is the nature of multi-tools. 

 

[Scott B.]

I like the aroma of precision demo. Beats the heck out of the sawzall.

 

[Brice Burrell]

I like the aroma of precision demo. Beats the heck out of the sawzall.

Scott, I worked with a guy that liked to use a multi-tool for demo, cutting drywall, trim and stuff like that.  I think the blades are not durable enough for anything but the precision demo you mentioned.  I did pick up the small one handed Ridgid sawzall, great tool for all but heavy demo.  It bridges the gap between a multi-tool and full size sawzall very well. 

 

[Scott B.]

I like the aroma of precision demo. Beats the heck out of the sawzall.

Scott, I worked with a guy that liked to use a multi-tool for demo, cutting drywall, trim and stuff like that.  I think the blades are not durable enough for anything but the precision demo you mentioned.  I did pick up the small one handed Ridgid sawzall, great tool for all but heavy demo.  It bridges the gap between a multi-tool and full size sawzall very well.

Exactly. I don't want to be cutting rusty spikes out of old hemlock with a multi at all. Too slow and hard on cutters.

But for "softer" work on the finish side, such as drywall or rotten siding sections, all day long. Very cool technology.

Will have to check out the small recip saw option, thanks for the tip. We are doing more and more rot repair these days.

 

[semenza]

    I'm with Brice. Multitools tend to burn the wood.  Nature of the beast that the blade body is rubbing against the wood creating lots of heat from friction.

Seth

 

[Tom the Remodeler]

Agreed with the above input. Multitools are dusty and smoky tools. By their very nature, effective onboard dust extraction is nearly impossible for cutting with oscillating tools.

If you'd like dust extraction without holding the hose by hand, you can try using a core drilling shroud. I've been very happy with the 4" BitBuddie from Dustless Technologies. Originally designed for wet or dry core drilling applications, I regularly use them for using my oscillating tool, particularly when cutting out electrical boxes or making precision cuts and want two hands on the tool. The Bit Buddie is also great for hole saws. I bought several of the shrouds, and cut them to various common diameters, as well as one with a narrow slot. I hope this helps!

http://dustlesstools.com/productdetails/D1905/DrillingShrouds.php

 

[semenza]

Tom,

  When you get a chance how about some pictures of how you modified them and how they fit to the multitool?

Seth

 

[Scott B.]

I think attempting dust extraction on the Vecturo would be ineffective and more of a hassle than a gain in most cases. I kind of feel the same way about drills and jigsaws.

 

[sae]

Makita makes one for their multi-tool for sanding and cutting w/ the half moon blade it seems.



Go to 3:13.

Milwaukee and Bosch have one as well, but only for use when sanding.

edit: maybe retrofit the Fein one?



Go to 1:00.

http://feintools-online.com/92602081010-fein-multimaster-dust-extraction-set.html

 

[Tom the Remodeler]

Tom,

  When you get a chance how about some pictures of how you modified them and how they fit to the multitool?

Seth

Will do Seth!  [smile]

 

[jmbfestool]

If you are going into wood you can not stay in on place

Just plunging and returning out isn't enough.  You need do move sideways this helps remove the dust away from the cutting area also reduces heat and gives the blade more clearance.

I assume you are using festools plunge adapter! 

I haven't used the festool vectro and I haven't use their plunge adaptor.  When it was released at first I thought nice!  I can see that plunge accessory come in handy.

THEN!

I started to think hold on from experience using multi tools plunging directly down into wood is a bad idea.  Not only that but the festool plunge base has a magnetic hold onto the blade to keep it steady, now I don't know but would this cause more heat because of friction?  Or would it reduce heat because its being transferred onto a large area of metal?  I believe its likely to create heat.

Like I said not used one myself so hard to comment.  Is it easy to move side ways back and forth while using the plunge base adaptor?  If not I recon its best not to use it on wood.

 

[festooldude]

Set it to speed 1.. I was advised by a Fein rep..

Rick

 

[Scott B.]

I have some recent footage of the Vecturo in drywall removal and exterior siding rot elimination that shows the type of fine dust created in these processes.

I agree completely that it is a tool that is best when in motion.

When I have time I will be putting together some of those highlights in video. Meanwhile, there is some photo and description at our topcoatreview site...typical multi tool usages in the "precision" demo arena.

 

[Alan m]

If you are going into wood you can not stay in on place

Just plunging and returning out isn't enough.  You need do move sideways this helps remove the dust away from the cutting area also reduces heat and gives the blade more clearance.

I assume you are using festools plunge adapter! 

I haven't used the festool vectro and I haven't use their plunge adaptor.  When it was released at first I thought nice!  I can see that plunge accessory come in handy.

THEN!

I started to think hold on from experience using multi tools plunging directly down into wood is a bad idea.  Not only that but the festool plunge base has a magnetic hold onto the blade to keep it steady, now I don't know but would this cause more heat because of friction?  Or would it reduce heat because its being transferred onto a large area of metal?  I believe its likely to create heat.

Like I said not used one myself so hard to comment.  Is it easy to move side ways back and forth while using the plunge base adaptor?  If not I recon its best not to use it on wood.

from my experience with my fein multimaster I would have to agree with jmb.
cutting without moving the machine sideways really slows down cutting and creates heat. I would guess that if you were cutting a hard nail without moving over and back it would ruin a few teeth  where it was cutting

 

[joiner1970]

As others have said you really need to keep moving multitools don't like to just plunge in one spot.

 

[Tom the Remodeler]

edit: maybe retrofit the Fein one?



Go to 1:00.

http://feintools-online.com/92602081010-fein-multimaster-dust-extraction-set.html

I tried the Fein extractor back when I owned a Supercut. The problem was, the assembly was very awkward, the fitting was only designed for having the blade in line with the tool, and even then didn't work very well. Plus, on the Vecturo it would require the removal of the tool-free collar. The Fein accessory also limits your depth of cut.

 

[semenza]

  I agree that moving the tool/blade helps with the burning. But for many of the cuts I have made there just isn't much room to move , even with a narrow blade, without damaging or cutting something I don't want cut. Just depends. In any case they are great tool smoke and all!

Seth

 

[Scott B.]

  I agree that moving the tool/blade helps with the burning. But for many of the cuts I have made there just isn't much room to move , even with a narrow blade, without damaging or cutting something I don't want cut. Just depends. In any case they are great tool smoke and all!

Seth

I agree, Seth, and on the occasions it is really nice to not be attempting it with a sawzall or a utility knife. Just something in between.

 

[jmbfestool]

  I agree that moving the tool/blade helps with the burning. But for many of the cuts I have made there just isn't much room to move , even with a narrow blade, without damaging or cutting something I don't want cut. Just depends. In any case they are great tool smoke and all!

Seth

I found rocking the the tool the next best thing if the cutting length is to small for sideways movement.