Wait for Vecturo (in vain) or get a Fein?

[Hogarth]

Like many other people here (I would think) I am waiting to see if Festool will announce the debut of some new tools for the fall soon. It might just be foolish to get any hopes up? One could at least hope that the PDC makes it to this side of the pond. I would love to get that, and even more so a multi tool. Preferably, a cordless one. It would drive me crazy if Festool delays the release for a corded version to the US (as they probably will) only to release a cordless version a year after that again..

I would just go for the cordless Fein supercut now, but having invested in the "system" I sure would like to have the batteries be interchangeable between my tools. Also, it doesn't look like the cordless supercut comes in a systainer in the US?( Rant end)

Anyway, is there a chance there will be a cordless Vecturo coming? Even in Europe?

 

[jonny round boy]

Anyway, is there a chance there will be a cordless Vecturo coming? Even in Europe?

The Vecturo is based on the Fein Supercut, and Fein do make an 18V powered version of the Supercut. Therefore - Yes. There is a chance. Is it definite? No. How long? No idea. But at least it is a possibility.

I'm sure none of that helps you very much!

 

[rst]

Toolnut had the Supercut in orange systainers...got one from them for $419.00.  Greatest thing is that it came with an adapter that allows use of the regular blades!  http://www.toolnut.com/SearchResults.asp?Search=supercut

 

[AlexThePalex]

As Jonny said, yes, a cordless Vecturo is a possibility, but for now, that's all you can say about it.

There's isn't even a cordless Vecturo yet in Europe, so don't count on one coming to America any time soon.

Go with a Fein, you won't be disappointed. It is the same machine after all.

 

[wow]

Go with a Fein, you won't be disappointed. It is the same machine after all.

But - horror of horrors - the color doesn't match the rest of the tools in my shop!

 

[howwe]

I just purchased the Supercut from Toolnut and it is a beast. Love it!
The Supercut is so much better than the Fein multi master which I've had for years.
Definitely worth it! And (bonus) it comes in a systainer!

 

[Samu1979]

I also purchased a corded supercut in the systainer, didnt want to wait for the vecturo,
  the supecut is pretty great, I highly reccomend it

 

[Sean7a]

I just purchased the Supercut from Toolnut and it is a beast. Love it!
The Supercut is so much better than the Fein multi master which I've had for years.
Definitely worth it! And (bonus) it comes in a systainer!

Its so awesome to see the supercut come down in price.  I remember selling it 10 years ago for about $899 or so.  The sales pitch, which was truthful, but just hard to get guys to digest, was the kicker of the inclusion of like 10-15 cutting blades.  In a regular multimaster or supercut you usually only get a few accy's you're going to be using day to day, the rest is peripheral stuff you may use now 'n again.  The supercuts had like $400 in really expensive blades if I recall.  So we'd essentially be telling guys, "you've got twice the cutting speed and a couple hundred dollars in blades".  The few who bit the bullet (it was EXPENSIVE) friggin loved it and said it paid for itself so quickly because the damn thing cut so fast.

Glad to see everyone experiencing the glory of Supercuts now.  Good on Fein for making the price more reasonable and just packaging it with a less expensive kit to make it happen.

 

[Administrator_JSVN]

Used my Vecturo over the weekend, doing a bathroom remodel. The accessories really made it quite useful. For instance, I had removed a vanity and the backsplash was glued to the wall.  The drywall needed to be replaced, so I used the Vecturo with the round blade and the "foot" which regulates the depth of cut. It was perfect because if I had gone another millimeter, I would have cut into a PVC pipe or electrical. Also perfect for cutting the jambs for tile.

But I forgot to snap some pics.  [doh]

 

[jonny round boy]

Used my Vecturo over the weekend, doing a bathroom remodel. The accessories really made it quite useful. For instance, I had removed a vanity and the backsplash was glued to the wall.  The drywall needed to be replaced, so I used the Vecturo with the round blade and the "foot" which regulates the depth of cut. It was perfect because if I had gone another millimeter, I would have cut into a PVC pipe or electrical. Also perfect for cutting the jambs for tile.

But I forgot to snap some pics.  [doh]

Shane, you're quite a tease sometimes, aren't you!  [tongue]

 

[paharding]

I ordered one today.

 

[jimbo51]

OK Shane, here is my offer. If you bring a cordless 18volt Vecturo to the NA market, I will also buy the cordless  TS55. I think this is more than a fair deal for both of us.

 

[Oso Rojo]

What is the difference in the Supercut and the multimaster? I've had a multimaster for years and only use is occasionally, but it's always in a situation where nothing else would be as good.

 

[Administrator_JSVN]

Shane, you're quite a tease sometimes, aren't you!  [tongue]

Being an employee has its advantages sometimes.  [cool]

 

[AlexThePalex]

What is the difference in the Supercut and the multimaster? I've had a multimaster for years and only use is occasionally, but it's always in a situation where nothing else would be as good.

It is the same machine in function, but the Supercut is a lot more powerful.

 

[Paul G]

Used my Vecturo over the weekend, doing a bathroom remodel. The accessories really made it quite useful. For instance, I had removed a vanity and the backsplash was glued to the wall.  The drywall needed to be replaced, so I used the Vecturo with the round blade and the "foot" which regulates the depth of cut. It was perfect because if I had gone another millimeter, I would have cut into a PVC pipe or electrical. Also perfect for cutting the jambs for tile.

But I forgot to snap some pics.  [doh]

I can see the value of regulating cut depth. So when can people here buy one instead of just wishing?

 

[Administrator_JSVN]

I can see the value of regulating cut depth. So when can people here buy one instead of just wishing?

Paul, we haven't announced a release date for the Vecturo in the US/Canada yet. Generally, tools are available here about 6-12 months after their European debut.

 

[roblg3]

[popcorn]

 

[stvrowe]

If you can afford to wait, do so.  Otherwise, the Fein is a fine machine and you won't regret purchasing unless you just really want the Festool and have the time to wait.  I already have the Multimaster so it is highly unlikely I will ever get a Vecturo.

 

[TelcoRandy]

If I was in your shoes Hogarth I'd buy a Fein Supercut, there's no guarantee any of these tools that have "no ETA" are ever going to come to a North American market. You could be waiting years for a cordless Vecturo to be released in Europe and even a decade for North America (and that's if they decide to put one out).
http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-tools-accessories/eta-for-new-product-introductions-in-na/

I have trouble recommending anything cordless made by Festool because there isn't a large selection of tools for their battery platform compared to other manufacturers and they don't seem to be committed to the North American market. Look at the PDC for example, it's been around for years and recently rebranded to the Festool name which I thought was done to bring Protool tools into North America, but they haven't introduced 1 Protool here yet, nor have they committed to an ETA for any of them either. From what I gather, North America isn't a good market for Festool. Here's a post from jonny round boy that touches on that:

You're not comparing, well, Apples with apples here (pun intended). Apple can afford to spend the money to get approval in every single market, because they know they are going to sell literally tens of millions of units. The US market for a new Festool product will be a couple of thousand units, maybe 5k at most. To give you an idea of the level of sales, the US recall on the TS55R was for less than 1,000 units (that's what I was told by a Festool UK employee, anyway).

On some of the more obscure tools the market is ridiculously small. In the UK, I don't knowhow many Symetric saws Festool UK have sold, but I have been told it's in single figures!

And in response to this reply:

What is the difference in the Supercut and the multimaster? I've had a multimaster for years and only use is occasionally, but it's always in a situation where nothing else would be as good.

It is the same machine in function, but the Supercut is a lot more powerful.

Comes another quote:

Also the best and cheapest blade are available from  http://www.imperialblades.com/         ( as far as i know the owner David Zielke  used to work for fein)

Supercut = 2degrees of cut from centre -400watts

Multimaster=1.6 degrees of cut-180watts