we need a 12" version of the kapex

[wooddog]

Yes , size  does  matter.. Im a high end custom cabinet installer, and most crown and base i install are  too large  to cut in a nested position in the 10" kapex miter saw . I realize  they can be cut in the laying  down position  using  both miter and bevel settings but speed is also important so cutting  in a nested position is  essential along with  the fact  that larger  crown is often slightly warped  thus wants  to "roll" when you try cutting laying flat .
 So , festool guys ... you want  to sell alot of kapex in the usa ?  make a 12" version and I will feel justified in spending over $2000 for a kapex / stand setup ... Festool  products are virtually  the best  in every  field , but festool is  the only major  manufacturer that DOESN'T have a 12" miter saw on the market .. What's up with  that? Come on festool engineers, show us  what you got  [big grin]

 

[duburban]

dude, that one is going to cost like 3 grand! but i agree, and with a 15 amp motor too.

 

[Paul G]

Sounds great!!

 

[Kev]

THis is an opinion, so don't bite!

Festool in the US seems to get the established mainstream products from Europe that justify 110V conversion and local regulatory compliance costs.

Unless there's European demand for a 12" (lets call it 300mm) KAPEX, I can't see them developing one specifically for the US market. Demand would need to be extremely significant.

Potentially a revised KAPEX may come with a larger blade offering in the future ... but to spin a blade with 30% more circumference you're going to need more power, greater machine stiffness, etc, etc.

Imagine if the current draw of a 300mm KAPEX needed to exceed the capacity a CT could supply ... lots of problems there for DC and systems compatibility!

Bottom line - yes it would be nice, but I wouldn't hold my breath for one any time soon.

 

[duburban]

thats where companies like bosch and makita can shine. i'm sure they realize they can sell a more expensive tool with better features. it seems to take a while but im sure its coming.

 

[Brice Burrell]

THis is an opinion, so don't bite!

Festool in the US seems to get the established mainstream products from Europe that justify 110V conversion and local regulatory compliance costs.

Unless there's European demand for a 12" (lets call it 300mm) KAPEX, I can't see them developing one specifically for the US market. Demand would need to be extremely significant.

Potentially a revised KAPEX may come with a larger blade offering in the future ... but to spin a blade with 30% more circumference you're going to need more power, greater machine stiffness, etc, etc.

Imagine if the current draw of a 300mm KAPEX needed to exceed the capacity a CT could supply ... lots of problems there for DC and systems compatibility!

Bottom line - yes it would be nice, but I wouldn't hold my breath for one any time soon.

That's true Kev, but I can see that changing in the future.  So be ready for Festool products being made for the US market, and the rest of the world can buy them or not.  It'll be fun to have the shoe on the other foot for a change. [tongue] 

 

[Mauri Motti]

It'll be fun to have the shoe on the other foot for a change. [tongue]  
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Oh, please no.. when reading your words I imagined Festo going with Imperial units  [scared]

 

[Mauri Motti]

And  [welcome] to FOG wooddog! You sure made your point clear and have good arguments to back up your wish. I have a Kapex and have the need for a deeper cut of depth sometimes. Though as is I'm horribly satisfied!

Kind regards,
Mauri

 

[Paul G]

Cute subject line edit there Kev lol

 

[Kev]

Cute subject line edit there Kev lol

Yeh - you got me [big grin]

 

[JLB builders LLC]

Would luv to have a 12" Kapex…… BUT can we get a rotary handle to dial in the angles like the Compound handle. When trying to line the laser up with the line on the angle finder I have to sometimes bump or tap the handle over and then when I go to lock the handle down it jumps. PLEASE!!!!

 

[Davej]

Kev , if you can run the of2200 through the ct's there shouldn't be a problem with a 12" kapex with a bigger motor !

 

[epicxt]

THis is an opinion, so don't bite!

Festool in the US seems to get the established mainstream products from Europe that justify 110V conversion and local regulatory compliance costs.

Unless there's European demand for a 12" (lets call it 300mm) KAPEX, I can't see them developing one specifically for the US market. Demand would need to be extremely significant.

Potentially a revised KAPEX may come with a larger blade offering in the future ... but to spin a blade with 30% more circumference you're going to need more power, greater machine stiffness, etc, etc.

Imagine if the current draw of a 300mm KAPEX needed to exceed the capacity a CT could supply ... lots of problems there for DC and systems compatibility!

Bottom line - yes it would be nice, but I wouldn't hold my breath for one any time soon.

That's true Kev, but I can see that changing in the future.  So be ready for Festool products being made for the US market, and the rest of the world can buy them or not.  It'll be fun to have the shoe on the other foot for a change. [tongue]

Ahh, to be able to type NAIE...

 

[Kev]

Kev , if you can run the of2200 through the ct's there shouldn't be a problem with a 12" kapex with a bigger motor !

Probably makes sense! Beast of a donk in the OF2200 [big grin]

 

[JLB builders LLC]

I run my Bosch 12" mitre saw through the CT26e without any problems

 

[Kev]

THis is an opinion, so don't bite!

Festool in the US seems to get the established mainstream products from Europe that justify 110V conversion and local regulatory compliance costs.

Unless there's European demand for a 12" (lets call it 300mm) KAPEX, I can't see them developing one specifically for the US market. Demand would need to be extremely significant.

Potentially a revised KAPEX may come with a larger blade offering in the future ... but to spin a blade with 30% more circumference you're going to need more power, greater machine stiffness, etc, etc.

Imagine if the current draw of a 300mm KAPEX needed to exceed the capacity a CT could supply ... lots of problems there for DC and systems compatibility!

Bottom line - yes it would be nice, but I wouldn't hold my breath for one any time soon.

That's true Kev, but I can see that changing in the future.  So be ready for Festool products being made for the US market, and the rest of the world can buy them or not.  It'll be fun to have the shoe on the other foot for a change. [tongue]

Ahh, to be able to type NAIE...

Don't see why that'd bring pleasure ... I don't think the rest of the world gains any satisfaction from the US not having the entire Festool range [sad]

You get a lot of local stuff at prices the rest of the world doesn't benefit from ... something to be thankful for.

My honest concern with anything "built for the US" will be the typical compromises made to compete in the marketplace, resulting in lower quality and ultimately cheaper manufacturing.

Festool NAIE products ... you can keep them [wink]

 

[wow]

I am new here, but I would also be interested in a 12" version of the Kapex. Not sure I could justify the price, but I'd sure like to try!

 

[Stephen B]

THis is an opinion, so don't bite!

Festool in the US seems to get the established mainstream products from Europe that justify 110V conversion and local regulatory compliance costs.

Unless there's European demand for a 12" (lets call it 300mm) KAPEX, I can't see them developing one specifically for the US market. Demand would need to be extremely significant.

Potentially a revised KAPEX may come with a larger blade offering in the future ... but to spin a blade with 30% more circumference you're going to need more power, greater machine stiffness, etc, etc.

Imagine if the current draw of a 300mm KAPEX needed to exceed the capacity a CT could supply ... lots of problems there for DC and systems compatibility!

Bottom line - yes it would be nice, but I wouldn't hold my breath for one any time soon.

That's true Kev, but I can see that changing in the future.  So be ready for Festool products being made for the US market, and the rest of the world can buy them or not.  It'll be fun to have the shoe on the other foot for a change. [tongue]  

[size=14pt]
Dream on!

 LOL  [wink]

Edit: to put Kev's point and my cryptic addition in context, USA together with rest of the world outside Europe represents 10% of Festool and associated subsidiary turnover.

http://festoolownersgroup.com/general-friendly-chat/festool-tanos-tooltechnic-relationships/

 

[JLB builders LLC]

When you get into high end trim jobs that would justify the cost of a 12" version you then are usually doing build up of trim like 3 piece crown or more, Base- 1x with a base cap etc. Only needing the 10" version and a cutting board with back fence for small pieces.

I have only had one kitchen job with an 8" tall cove crown for two 6' tall pantry cabs on each side of a french door.

 

[GreenGA]

Love it...  Love it, love it, love it...  [big grin]

That's true Kev, but I can see that changing in the future.  So be ready for Festool products being made for the US market, and the rest of the world can buy them or not.  It'll be fun to have the shoe on the other foot for a change. [tongue]