What are the best wood drill bits and Forstner bits?

fldange

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I read the post on the Colt Five Star Brad Point Drill Bits and I did find a few reviews online.  They look pretty cool.  However, has anyone actually done the comparisons to realize what are the best brad point drill bits or other for wood and also the best forstner drill bits? 

I also was unable to locate the The Colt Forstner bits online to price them.  Has anyone found them?  Thank you.       
 
The Festool brad point bits are the best I have ever used.

The Porter Cable forstner bits are garbage. The Freud ones are better. I also bought some really large ones from Lee Valley- they were good but I have nothing to compare them to (actually they are saw tooth bits not Forstner bits).
 
The Colt brad-points are really nice, I have a set plus a few odd sizes that I'm very happy with. They're on a par with my old Greenlee HSS brad-points I've had for 25 years and do a better job of chip extraction. I'd say they're well worth the money.

Haven't tried the Festools, I've got bits enough already.

Haven't tried their Forstners although they look good. Most of mine are Freud(not the Diablo POS), when they wear out I'll try the Colts. You can source them from Woodcraft. My local store doesn't stock them or I'd have tried them by now.

HTH,
Bill
 
Just bought a 1 1/2" Forstner bit from Famag. $85.00 including shipping. 1/2" shank. Very nice cuts, quality looks good. Rim size IS .500.
 
Thank you all for the replies. I ordered the Colt Maxi-Cut Forstner bits and will let you all know how they are. I might even get one from Famag and do a comparison.  I also ordered the brad point bits from Colt and Fuller.  I will let you know my thoughts on both after I receive them as , they are back ordered.  Tks.
 
I received some of the Colt MaxiCut Forstner bits.  I did some drilling into a piece of oak flooring I had laying around as a test.  Let me tell you, they get hot.  Forget the video on them, they do indeed get hot.  As compared to the Festool Forstner bits I would say they cut a bit faster, bit the Festool bits left a partially drilled hole smoother on the flat surface.  I tested them using my festool T18+3 handheld drill.  The extensions for the Colt are useful for drilling between floors to run pipe, etc.  They need a drop of oil though or they lock too tightly and you cannot pull them apart.  I will let you know how a Famag Bormax Forstner bit compares in the future, and the brad points as well.  Tks
 
I did a comparison of 5 Forstner brands chosen based on information found here at the FOG as well as the internet and also one that I had in my tool kit.  They are the  Festool Forstner Bits (Centrotec System), the FAMAG Super Premium Carbide Tipped Bormax 3, The FAMAG Premium Bormax, the Colt Maxicut Forstner bits and a Freud Forstner bit that I have had for some years.  I compared these bits drilling freehand partial holes in oak flooring (I had a couple of extra pieces of flooring too small to reuse which is why I used them for this test).  The drill I used was the Festool T18+3.  Let me say that all the bits are good for free hand drilling and if you own a full set of any, there is probably no need to change unless you are seeking out the absolute best made forstner bits.   

I feel the Super Premium FAMAG Bormax 3’s were the best bits with the smoothest holes.  They drill fast and stay cool.  They are also the most expensive by far.  If you have the money, these are the bits you want.  Second place was close between the Festool and the FAMAG Bormax.  Both made very smooth accurate holes.  I love that the Festool bits work with the Centrotec System, but they only make a set of 5 and are metric.  If you need to make larger holes than 35 MM, and if you would like Imperial sizes, you will want the BORMAX.  I believe they are similarly priced.  So that is my top 3 with 2 and 3  being tied, the edge going to Festool if you want Centrotec bits and the edge going to the Bormax bits if you need larger and Imperial sizes.  If forced to choose between the two on an absolute basis, I would put the Festool bits in second and the Bormax bits in third. 

While my Freud bit (it was only 1 inch) made holes just as good as the Colt Maxicut, the Colts cut the fastest holes of any of the bits and for that reason I placed them in the 4th position ahead of the Freud.  The Freud was still excellent though.  The Maxicut bits also have extensions that do not need to be screwed together which is great when having to get out of a jam by drilling a hole up behind a wall in order to run pipes.  They are awfully tight though, so please make sure you drop a touch of oil in the extensions or you will not get them apart. 

The standout to me was that the Super Premium FAMAG Bormax 3’s were noticeably better than the rest.  They drill fast, are precise and make extremely smooth holes.  And since they are carbide tipped they should last and last.  The other surprise to me was just how good the Festool Forstner bits are.  Other than the Bormax 3’s, they made the best holes.  An interesting aside is that looking at the bits the best finished bits are the Festool and the Super Premium Bormax 3’s.  The other bits are not finished to that same standard, and these are the bits that took 1st and second in cutting ability.  In summary, my order of finish is below:

1.- FAMAG Super Premium Bormax 3 Carbide-Tipped
2.- FESTOOL Centrotec Forstner Bits
3.- FAMAG Premium Bormax Bits  -  Tied with the Festool
4.- Colt Maxicut Forstner Bits
5.- Freud  ( probably the best buy)

I hope this was of some interest and value to you all.  Thank you.           
 
fldange said:
I did a comparison of 5 Forstner brands chosen based on information found here at the FOG as well as the internet and also one that I had in my tool kit.  They are the  Festool Forstner Bits (Centrotec System), the FAMAG Super Premium Carbide Tipped Bormax 3, The FAMAG Premium Bormax, the Colt Maxicut Forstner bits and a Freud Forstner bit that I have had for some years.  I compared these bits drilling freehand partial holes in oak flooring (I had a couple of extra pieces of flooring too small to reuse which is why I used them for this test).  The drill I used was the Festool T18+3.  Let me say that all the bits are good for free hand drilling and if you own a full set of any, there is probably no need to change unless you are seeking out the absolute best made forstner bits.     

I feel the Super Premium FAMAG Bormax 3’s were the best bits with the smoothest holes.  They drill fast and stay cool.  They are also the most expensive by far.  If you have the money, these are the bits you want.  Second place was close between the Festool and the FAMAG Bormax.  Both made very smooth accurate holes.  I love that the Festool bits work with the Centrotec System, but they only make a set of 5 and are metric.  If you need to make larger holes than 35 MM, and if you would like Imperial sizes, you will want the BORMAX.  I believe they are similarly priced.  So that is my top 3 with 2 and 3  being tied, the edge going to Festool if you want Centrotec bits and the edge going to the Bormax bits if you need larger and Imperial sizes.  If forced to choose between the two on an absolute basis, I would put the Festool bits in second and the Bormax bits in third.   

While my Freud bit (it was only 1 inch) made holes just as good as the Colt Maxicut, the Colts cut the fastest holes of any of the bits and for that reason I placed them in the 4th position ahead of the Freud.  The Freud was still excellent though.  The Maxicut bits also have extensions that do not need to be screwed together which is great when having to get out of a jam by drilling a hole up behind a wall in order to run pipes.  They are awfully tight though, so please make sure you drop a touch of oil in the extensions or you will not get them apart.   

The standout to me was that the Super Premium FAMAG Bormax 3’s were noticeably better than the rest.  They drill fast, are precise and make extremely smooth holes.  And since they are carbide tipped they should last and last.  The other surprise to me was just how good the Festool Forstner bits are.  Other than the Bormax 3’s, they made the best holes.  An interesting aside is that looking at the bits the best finished bits are the Festool and the Super Premium Bormax 3’s.  The other bits are not finished to that same standard, and these are the bits that took 1st and second in cutting ability.  In summary, my order of finish is below:

1.- FAMAG Super Premium Bormax 3 Carbide-Tipped
2.- FESTOOL Centrotec Forstner Bits
3.- FAMAG Premium Bormax Bits  -  Tied with the Festool
4.- Colt Maxicut Forstner Bits
5.- Freud  ( probably the best buy)

I hope this was of some interest and value to you all.  Thank you.           

yep thank you!
 
Festool & Famag are the best two sets of bits you can buy, Famag have a much wider range than Festool with shaft extensions for deep holes and specialist Forstner bits with centre pilot bits for boring large diameter holes at ana angle, very useful of you dont own a drill press.
 
Yes it is very helpful since I just ordered a bunch of Brusso hardware including recessed pulls that require a forstner bit hole in small doors.  Thanks for the review.
 
Happy to be of assistance.  I will be reviewing some brad point bits shortly.  Tks.
 
fldange said:
Happy to be of assistance.  I will be reviewing some brad point bits shortly.  Tks.

After reading your review I went out to my shop to look at the condition of my Forstner bits and came back in to the office and got online to purchase some replacements.  I looked for the Festool bits but, it seems that they are no longer offered at this time so, I purchased the FAMAG BOREMAX.
 
I think you will be very satisfied.  Let us know what you think after you receive them.  Tks.
 
fldange said:
I think you will be very satisfied.  Let us know what you think after you receive them.  Tks.

Thanks, I should get the new drill bits around the same time as my Brusso delivery and I'll have a chance to use them for some flush mounted door pulls.

 
Fl

Thanks again for the great review.  If you are doing brad points next woodcraft just announced 20% off on Colt bits (might just be brick and mortar stores though)

Cheers

James
 
I missed that as I had already ordered the Colt Five Star Brad Point Bits from TheBestThings.Com.  While I have not yet done my in depth testing,I did do an initial test comparing them to the Fuller Brad Points and the Festool Bradpoints.  My suggestion is to not purchase the Colts as both the Fuller and Festool Bradpoints are better.  Cleaner holes and less damage on the rear of the board when using Oak.  I only made a few holes using 1/4 inch bits, so I have not tested the other bits yet.  However, even TheBestThings.com feel the Fuller bits are superior to the Colts.  I will update with some details when I conduct my full testing.  Thank you.                       
 
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