What should I buy first, DC, Jointer, planer or Drum sander

[WarnerConstCo.]

Since I'm a one person small shop I was thinking of a grizzle:

G0443 1-1/2 HP Cyclone Dust Collector

Should be big enough to handle the planer and any this else, one machine at time with blast gates.

A 15" planer is best with 850 cfm, that grizzly gives you under 700 and it just gets lower every time you turn it on.

 

[Wood_Junkie]

Specs on that Grizzly are over 1000cfm.  Darcy, where you getting 700 from?

Greg, have you considered a non-cyclone DC?  That's a whole lotttta machine and space.

I have a JET DC1100, with canister.  Works great.  I only have a 12" planer, but it's never complained or clogged.  And I've filled the bag three times in one week (planed a few hundred LF of 7" baseboards).  You can use garden bags for cheaper replacements.

Oh, I would also advocate for dust collection as your next big purchase.  It's a tool that goes with every other tool.  Much as the CTs are central to the Festool system.

 

[USPcompact]

Greg, have you considered a non-cyclone DC?  That's a whole lotttta machine and space.

Agreed.  A cyclone in one bay of a garage sharing space with all your other tools makes for a tight work space. 

I went with the G0548Z.  1700 cfm for $449 delivered,  and I couldn't be more pleased. 

 

[zapdafish]

I'd say joiner/planar then dust collector. Without wood to work with you are twiddling your thumbs. Without a dust collector, you can buy a decent mask and still work.

 

[semenza]

Hi,

I would go with the DC first, it should not be too tough to figure out which size to get before you ge tthe tools. It will make your current table saw use more enjoyable and everything you add on better too. Plus yo won't have all that dust in the air.

Planer would be next. You can edge joint on your router table, and it is possible to flatten boards on the planer.

Then the jointer, and get as wide a jointer as you can.

Combo machines can save some money, but not always. And then you have to deal with changing them.

OSS last, and quite possibly some other stuff before it too. Your DP can handle that job in the mean time.

Seth

 

[WarnerConstCo.]

Specs on that Grizzly are over 1000cfm.  Darcy, where you getting 700 from?

from the wrong 1 1/2 hp one. [embarassed]

 

[GPowers]

Specs on that Grizzly are over 1000cfm.  Darcy, where you getting 700 from?

from the wrong 1 1/2 hp one. [embarassed]

I original looked at the more portable one (the 700cfm), then changed my mind to the large on for the same price, but no stand. I can always build a stand [tongue]

 

[WarnerConstCo.]

Specs on that Grizzly are over 1000cfm.  Darcy, where you getting 700 from?

from the wrong 1 1/2 hp one. [embarassed]

I original looked at the more portable one (the 700cfm), then changed my mind to the large on for the same price, but no stand. I can always build a stand [tongue]

I am trying to put together a DC system right now.  I have some rather large machine's to collect from.

That was my reasoning behind get the machines and then match your system.

Used dust collectors are a dime a dozen right now.

 

[GPowers]

Craigs list has lot of used dust collectors but there are not any cyclones. At least in my area??/

 

[WarnerConstCo.]

Craigs list has lot of used dust collectors but there are not any cyclones. At least in my area??/

I think a cyclone may take up too much space for you.

You can get good filtration with the right filter bags or canister's on a bag unit.

If you don't have one, I would suggest an air filter as well.

I bought the machine's I wanted first and now am getting the DC done before I turn them on.

I need to hurry too, they need to be running in about 2 weeks.

 

[USPcompact]

How's the refurbishment coming?

 

[WarnerConstCo.]

How's the refurbishment coming?

Great except for the giant mess in the shop from reorganizing and a frantic dash to get my RPC up and running.

The Oliver jointer and Wedge bed planer are plug and play's, just got to get them to their final resting location and then get them all adjusted.

 

[USPcompact]

Sweet.  We're gonna need more pictures when they're in service...

 

[John Stevens]

I would go with the DC first, it should not be too tough to figure out which size to get before you ge tthe tools. It will make your current table saw use more enjoyable and everything you add on better too. Plus yo won't have all that dust in the air.

+1 on that!
This link may help you figure out your dust collection needs in relation to the tools you have now and are planning to buy:

http://www.airhand.com/designing.aspx

Regards,

John

 

[ScotF]

Hi Greg,

Cyclones are great, but require permanent space.  I opted for a Felder AF22 fitted with a Wynn cartridge -- I have amazing collection and it is more portable.  If you can swing a permanent fixture, a cyclone would be nice.  In terms of the jointer or planer, I would recommend a Jointer/Planer combination.  They cost about the same as a high quality 8 inch jointer and a 15 inch planer.  You get a larger jointer which is critical for surfacing large stock.  A lot of boards that come through my shop are wider than 8 inches and the 12 inch size I have covers 95% of what I see.  A 16 inch machine would be even better.  I have a Hammer A3-31 J/P combination and it works very well.  If I were in your shoes I would wait another 2-3 months and buy this instead of two separates.  Takes up less space too.  Just my .02.

Scot

 

[GPowers]

We already have a cyclone based central vac for the house. They do not call them cyclones as the term is bag less.  The wife loves it, and because it exhaust out side there is a lot less dust in the house.

The Garage has a very high roof line that gives it a huge attic space. So with something like a cyclone dust collection system I can always go UP.

 

[GPowers]

The current project dictated that I purchase the Planer first. Here it is with the top of the crate removed. Now I need to get the 600plus pounds off the double pallet.

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[WarnerConstCo.]

600 pounds is a light weight.

I can get a 2500 machine off the floor and onto a pallet jack or pipe in about 5 minutes, normally.

 

[Kevin Stricker]

Nice Planer!  Getting it down should not be too bad.  I have used both car jacks and sturdy sawhorses for getting machines set up solo.  I used sawhorses with my TS as I could clamp the saw to the horses and lift/lower it into position on it's mobile base.  For the 12" J/P I used jacks and lots of plywood scraps to get it off the pallet onto it's base.  Once you have it off the pallets onto squares of plywood (use 2x stock under the machine to support it)you can use a prybar to lift each corner and remove a square of plywood and slowly lower it into position.  A cherrypicker or forklift would make thing go a lot faster, but I live in the mountains so have to get creative sometimes.

 

[GPowers]

I was lucky as the planer comes with the mobile base installed. Made it easy once I got it on the floor.