what would make you go festool cordless

Alan m

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I love festool tools but I cant justify going cordless
I have dewalt cordless for all my tools.
I would like the cordless sanders but that's only 1 tool with a special battery
I don't see the drills and jigsaw and track saw worth it.

what would make you go cordless. to me it would have to be the domino
 
domino? instead of drill being cordless?? lol the domino works best attached to a DE so that takes all the "cordless" out of it.

a wired drill is obsolete these days. the wireless sander is great for small and fast touch up jobs, but the festool that really needs wireless is the vecturo.
 
I'm sure that they could integrate some kind of blower that blew the dust into a bag . or a small integrated vac like an sds drill.
 
The TSC55 and HKC55 are reason enough for me.  The TSC55 also performs better than the corded version IMHO.  A cordless Vecturo would be nice, though.
 
#Tee said:
domino? instead of drill being cordless?? lol the domino works best attached to a DE so that takes all the "cordless" out of it.
The domino actually needs a DE or it'll die quickly.
but the festool that really needs wireless is the vecturo.
In case it would take the standard 18V batteries I would instantly order one.
 
Alan m said:
what would make you go cordless. to me it would have to be the domino

A fully fleshed out cordless line. Impact, drill, oscillating tool, maybe a nailer or two. I guess it depends on the work you do but for me Festools are largely shop tools. Someone at work recently wanted me to use my track saw to cut 2x8 sleepers- why would I do that when I can use a worm drive and be just as quick? The more I think about it the more I realize I like Festool for their corded tools only- Kapex, Domino, sanders (tools where their dust extraction makes a difference).

So it would take
one unified battery platform
an effective impact option
a circular saw that can cut a 2x4 on a bevel
a cordless oscillating tool

I'd rather buy Makita and not care what happens to it since it's relatively cheap. 
 
Really depends on what you are doing if your shop bound I see no advantage. But if you are like me and do a lot of site work in different stages of construction cordless is an absolute must. I can't even begin to count how many miles I've put on my TSC55 and as Edward mentioned it's seems more powerful than it's corded brother.
 
I’m an all Milwaukee battery platform guy except for the CXS.  [thumbs up]

And then I tried the TSC...bought it...and then I tried the HKC...bought that also. Never been happier, those tools were worth bastardizing the Milwaukee one size fits all platform.

Now a cordless Vecturo would force me to sin again.  [cool]
 
+1 for a cordless Vecturo and I'd also suggest a trim router would be nice.
 
I bought the HKC as my gateway drug to Festool cordless.  I mostly do commercial/industrial work and have an extensive range of 12 and 18v Milwaukees.  I also have the 18v Fein Supercut and drill.  I recently bought the CSX because I could often use the right angle function in automatic door operator headers.  I then bought a PDC 18/4 set ($630.00), not because I needed it but because Ebay had one like new for $383.00.  I already had the HKC and three batteries.  The drill arrived and was even better than I could have hoped, in a 90 anniversary systainer, the only thing that remotely looked used was the right angle attachment.  The charger was still in the unopened bag.  Planning on selling my Milwaukee hammerdrill at which time the kit will have cost me $300.00.
 
rst said:
I bought the HKC as my gateway drug to Festool cordless.  I mostly do commercial/industrial work and have an extensive range of 12 and 18v Milwaukees.  I also have the 18v Fein Supercut and drill.  I recently bought the CSX because I could often use the right angle function in automatic door operator headers.  I then bought a PDC 18/4 set ($630.00), not because I needed it but because Ebay had one like new for $383.00.  I already had the HKC and three batteries.  The drill arrived and was even better than I could have hoped, in a 90 anniversary systainer, the only thing that remotely looked used was the right angle attachment.  The charger was still in the unopened bag.  Planning on selling my Milwaukee hammerdrill at which time the kit will have cost me $300.00.

nice back story on how you came about. how do you like the pdc so far? the bare kit isnt that bad if you consider the sys2 with attic lid for 330.
 
I've had such great longevity and compatibility with both my DeWalt and Milwaukee tools that I can't see any reason to abandon those platforms for Festool cordless.  One exception.....I just acquired a T18 +3 set because of the fast change chucks and it is a remarkable drill, but it will be my one and only Festool cordless.  Like others, I use the track saw and domino with a CT extractor, so corded is the only way I'll go with those.
 
Nothing really. I have no use for cordless tools other than drills. I have tried many over the years and always end up selling them off. AC powered tools for me have always lasted MANY years longer than battery powered ones since there are no batteries to go bad.

That said if Festool would make a track saw what was capable of being powered from both batteries and AC power I MIGHT be tempted to pick that up since I would find it useful on occasion to have the ability to take my tracks aw with me to the wood shop to break down material in the parking lot since I dont have a truck. And since Id already have 18V batteries from that kit, I might be tempted to try one of their overprice drills too. Maybe. The fact that I can have 3-4 DeWalt drills for the price on ONE Festool drill still bugs me as much as proprietary Centrotec bits do.
 
ben_r_ said:
Nothing really. I have no use for cordless tools other than drills. I have tried many over the years and always end up selling them off. AC powered tools for me have always lasted MANY years longer than battery powered ones since there are no batteries to go bad.

That said if Festool would make a track saw what was capable of being powered from both batteries and AC power I MIGHT be tempted to pick that up since I would find it useful on occasion to have the ability to take my tracks aw with me to the wood shop to break down material in the parking lot since I dont have a truck. And since Id already have 18V batteries from that kit, I might be tempted to try one of their overprice drills too. Maybe. The fact that I can have 3-4 DeWalt drills for the price on ONE Festool drill still bugs me as much as proprietary Centrotec bits do.

Very well said.  A dual-fuel track saw would be wonderful, and Festool should be able to pull this off like they are doing with sanders.

I also share the sentiment of the proprietary Centrotec Bits.  I have been spending time "Centrotec-ing" Milwaukee, Bosch and DeWalt hex drills and long bits for about 1/10th the cost of Festool OEM bits.  So what if they may not last as long (which I have yet to establish) as the OEM Centrotec bits.  At the price difference, I can replace them many times over if I ever need to.
 
Dick Mahany said:
ben_r_ said:
Nothing really. I have no use for cordless tools other than drills. I have tried many over the years and always end up selling them off. AC powered tools for me have always lasted MANY years longer than battery powered ones since there are no batteries to go bad.

That said if Festool would make a track saw what was capable of being powered from both batteries and AC power I MIGHT be tempted to pick that up since I would find it useful on occasion to have the ability to take my tracks aw with me to the wood shop to break down material in the parking lot since I dont have a truck. And since Id already have 18V batteries from that kit, I might be tempted to try one of their overprice drills too. Maybe. The fact that I can have 3-4 DeWalt drills for the price on ONE Festool drill still bugs me as much as proprietary Centrotec bits do.

Very well said.  A dual-fuel track saw would be wonderful, and Festool should be able to pull this off like they are doing with sanders.

I also share the sentiment of the proprietary Centrotec Bits.  I have been spending time "Centrotec-ing" Milwaukee, Bosch and DeWalt hex drills and long bits for about 1/10th the cost of Festool OEM bits.  So what if they may not last as long (which I have yet to establish) as the OEM Centrotec bits.  At the price difference, I can replace them many times over if I ever need to.
Exactly. I have a ton of Wera and Wiha bits and LOVE them. Not about to waste time and money going through the trouble of chasing down the various and limited offerings from Festool in the Centrotec system.
 
ben_r_ said:
Exactly. I have a ton of Wera and Wiha bits and LOVE them. Not about to waste time and money going through the trouble of chasing down the various and limited offerings from Festool in the Centrotec system.

One of my most knee-jerk disappointments to the Festool Centrotec system is their total lack of support. If this system is indeed that good, why doesn’t Festool support and grow the system?
Instead, we get a half-assed approach that introduces various bits willy-nilly and also obsoletes other various bits nilly-willy. At which point we’re asked to buy-in to the system, yet there appears to be no Festool commitment to fill in the Centrotec voids.

So by now, we’ve purchased several Festool drills and we can’t purchase the requisite Centrotec products because Festool has not yet manufactured those products and may never produce them.

And because Festool is averse to producing a roadmap of their future tool/accessories offerings, we’re left to pray each Sunday and leave extra money in the collection plate, hoping that Festool will eventually fill out their Centrotec product line.

Adding insult to injury, we’re sold an imperial installer set with brad point bits, but then when we lose or damage that individual bit, we’re informed that a replacement bit is not available.
 
For me it's all about the convenience of being cordless, Some tools like the Domino and Kapex I would keep corded but I would swap out all my sanders and router to Cordless if Festool made them & they all used the same 18v batteries. I have & use most days a cordless mitre saw and router form another brand.

Over the years I have swapped out all my old Ni Cad cordless tools to lithium and that was probably the biggest leap forward for me in cordless tool technology, now the ongoing process when tools need replacing is to swap out all brushed cordless tools with brushless cordless tools as run time and performance on cordless tools just keeps on getting better.
 
Cheese said:
ben_r_ said:
Exactly. I have a ton of Wera and Wiha bits and LOVE them. Not about to waste time and money going through the trouble of chasing down the various and limited offerings from Festool in the Centrotec system.

One of my most knee-jerk disappointments to the Festool Centrotec system is their total lack of support. If this system is indeed that good, why doesn’t Festool support and grow the system?
Instead, we get a half-assed approach that introduces various bits willy-nilly and also obsoletes other various bits nilly-willy. At which point we’re asked to buy-in to the system, yet there appears to be no Festool commitment to fill in the Centrotec voids.

So by now, we’ve purchased several Festool drills and we can’t purchase the requisite Centrotec products because Festool has not yet manufactured those products and may never produce them.

And because Festool is averse to producing a roadmap of their future tool/accessories offerings, we’re left to pray each Sunday and leave extra money in the collection plate, hoping that Festool will eventually fill out their Centrotec product line.

Adding insult to injury, we’re sold an imperial installer set with brad point bits, but then when we lose or damage that individual bit, we’re informed that a replacement bit is not available.
Exactly! And you know what? It'd be fine if they kept their Centrotec line going, supported however and wherever they like. I could care less. But with all the money they expect us to invest in their drills, at least have the decency to give us a head for the drills that uses our standard 1/4" bits! We'll pay EXTRA for the additional head! Just make is an option! Why is that so tough for them to understand?!
 
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