whats the best small angle grinder with dust colection out there.

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Alan m

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hi there. i am looking for a small grinder 115mm or 125mm with decent dust colection.

brice posted in a different thread about a hitachi one and someone (not brice this time) about a hilti one.

i found a protool one that a plundge version and goes on the rail
link to aussi site

its 649 aussi dollars and 249 sterling.

it loooks good .

what do you think is the best saw out there, or is there an aftermarket schroud out there that will do the same thing
 
When it was released in UK I asked Warren about the PRotool.   I wanted to know if a Bosch would fit the rail adapter so I could use my bosch on the rail instead of the Protool one cus you can buy the adapter with out the grinder so basically bare.   He never got back to me about it and I kinda forgot about the tool....... so I gues I didnt really need it I just wanted it cus it was a new gadget tool at the time few months ago.

The grinder comes of the rail adapter and the protool grinder can be attached to a hood accessory aswell for face grinding with dust extraction
 
Hi Alan.
I have owned the Protool Plunge Grinder that you have linked to for approx 5 months.
I have only used it twice, but both times I was amazed at the dust extraction.

I was cutting through the middle of a row of tiles using the Festool guide rails.
My chippy mate was also blown away at the precision, dust extraction and the ease of use with the Festool guide rails.

I have tried various shroud attachments in the past with varying degrees of success.
Nothing comes close to the Protool.
I highly recommend any one to purchase it.

The Protool AGP 125 grinders are awesome and are up there with the Metabo grinders which I personally rate as the best on the market.
I have 3 Protool of these grinders.
1 for the Plunge setup. 1 for grinding with the Protool dust shroud. And I have one for general construction use with diamond, metal, stainless steel blades.

My one minor critiscm would be the very tiny chips to the tile edges, but this is more an issue with the generic diamond cutting blade that I was using, and not a fault of the Protool Plunge Grinder.
I have never used the Protool diamond cutting discs, maybe Protool will send me one for Christmas!!!

Justin.
 
Alan that Protool on the rail looks awesome, I really wish we could get it here.

You may want to take a look and see if you have this available (its not available here in the US), AEG MBS 30 TURBO.
AEG MBS 30 TURBO
 
justinmcf said:
Hi Alan.
I have owned the Protool Plunge Grinder that you have linked to for approx 5 months.
I have only used it twice, but both times I was amazed at the dust extraction.......

Justin.
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Justin, now I really, really want one of these!  How does the grinder cut with the plunge base work off the guide rail?
 
Brice Burrell said:
Alan that Protool on the rail looks awesome, I really wish we could get it here.

You may want to take a look and see if you have this available (its not available here in the US), AEG MBS 30 TURBO.
AEG MBS 30 TURBO
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that looks good brice.
the only reviw i can find is in german. it says the price is 304 (360 usually)euro . the pro tool works out at 350. the pro tool would be compatable with the festool guide rails so that would be a big plus
 
Hi Brice.
I have not used the grinder without the use of the Festool guide rails.

When I do need to use a grinder free hand, I use my other Protool grinder with diamond / metal blade.

FYI, the maximum depth of cut is 28mm with the grinder fixed to the plunge base plate, so it would be awesome when you have to make repeat cuts at a fixed depth with or without the Festool guide rails.

Justin.
 
justinmcf said:
Hi Brice.
I have not used the grinder without the use of the Festool guide rails.

When I do need to use a grinder free hand, I use my other Protool grinder with diamond / metal blade.

FYI, the maximum depth of cut is 28mm with the grinder fixed to the plunge base plate, so it would be awesome when you have to make repeat cuts at a fixed depth with or without the Festool guide rails.

Justin.
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I just found a video showing it used off the rail.  I think I might try to get one of these shipped over here.  Anyone else want to have one shipped over?

Diamant-doorslijpsystemen Protool DSC-AGP 125 en 230
 
Brice Burrell said:
Anyone else want to have one shipped over?
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Was that a cement floor it was cutting through?  If so, it might be worth buying just for my basement.  Does it run on 240V?  Are blades available in the States?  How much does the thing cost?

Regards,

John
 
John Stevens said:
Brice Burrell said:
Anyone else want to have one shipped over?
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Was that a cement floor it was cutting through?  If so, it might be worth buying just for my basement.  Does it run on 240V?  Are blades available in the States?  How much does the thing cost?

Regards,

John
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It sure looked like cement to me and my experience is a segmented diamond blade on a grinder has little trouble cutting concrete.  With only 28mm depth on the rail you won't be cutting very deep.  Off the rail I guess you'd get 5 more mm of depth. 

I would have thought all that info would be readily available (in English) but not much luck so far.  The most cost effective thing would be to get the hood only, assuming it will fit other grinders. 
 
Brice Burrell said:
Alan that Protool on the rail looks awesome, I really wish we could get it here.

You may want to take a look and see if you have this available (its not available here in the US), AEG MBS 30 TURBO.
AEG MBS 30 TURBO
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Brice,

That looks a lot like what Ridgid sells in HD.
 
Brice Burrell said:
John Stevens said:
Brice Burrell said:
Anyone else want to have one shipped over?
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Was that a cement floor it was cutting through?  If so, it might be worth buying just for my basement.  Does it run on 240V?  Are blades available in the States?  How much does the thing cost?

Regards,

John
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It sure looked like cement to me and my experience is a segmented diamond blade on a grinder has little trouble cutting concrete.  With only 28mm depth on the rail you won't be cutting very deep.  Off the rail I guess you'd get 5 more mm of depth. 

I would have thought all that info would be readily available (in English) but not much luck so far.  The most cost effective thing would be to get the hood only, assuming it will fit other grinders. 
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Basically what I said!    Wanted just the hood(guide rail adapter) months months ago  I was checking both out the big brother aswell as its just the same just bigger and cuts much deaper.    Like I said I asked Warren from bunny bolts but to be fair to him he was still waiting for it to be shipped to him but I did ask when you get it if you can see if other grinders would fit it and I never got an answer so i ended up not buying it.    I think you would need both the little and big one  only cus like mentioned the depth of the little one isn't great but it's small and convenient and then have the big one to do the big depth cutting.

Send Warren a PM or call him I'm sure he will be able to check now cus he should have it in by now he's had months.

 
Ken Nagrod said:
Brice Burrell said:
Alan that Protool on the rail looks awesome, I really wish we could get it here.

You may want to take a look and see if you have this available (its not available here in the US), AEG MBS 30 TURBO.
AEG MBS 30 TURBO
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Brice,

That looks a lot like what Ridgid sells in HD.
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Yeah, I say noticed that too Ken, except the AEG can ride on a rail and has depth adjustment (I don't believe the Ridgid does either).
 
jmbfestool said:
Finally!  I found the thread I started over a year ago about this Protool AGP 125 grinder.    

I called the topic a stupid name I dont know why I called it  agp diamant trenn   no wonder I couldnt find it!  

Any way Brice where you been that topic was started a year ago!  

http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-tools-accessories/agp-diamant-trenn/
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I vaguely remember that thread.  After 80 or so holes cut in plaster walls and 40+ sheets of cement board on I'm working on now, this Protool has  really gotten my attention.  I emailed Warren this morning about getting the guide rail adapter, I hope he can get one to me. 

JMB, do you know what voltage the AGP 125 grinder is?   
 
Collecting dust off a grinder into any kind of dust collection system is extremely dangerous if any kind of spark gets into that system.  FIRE.    Don't do this on materials that could spark

We lost a furniture factory here in Indiana 3 years ago because of this. 
 
Brice Burrell said:
JMB, do you know what voltage the AGP 125 grinder is?     
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I'm not JMB but I think they're all 240v. I don't think Protool has 110v versions as it's presence in the UK is pretty small and in the US non-existent. Not 100% sure though.
 
Alex said:
Brice Burrell said:
JMB, do you know what voltage the AGP 125 grinder is?     
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I'm not JMB but I think they're all 240v. I don't think Protool has 110v versions as it's presence in the UK is pretty small and in the US non-existent. Not 100% sure though.
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Alex, that was my guess too that's why I'm looking into getting the getting the guide rail adapter part only.  I'd like to have the grinder too, but it wouldn't be at all practical in 240v.

I really do hope we can get these in the US in the future.  I'm going to have to call Rick Bush (product manager for Festool USA) twice a week until we do. [tongue]
 
RDMuller said:
Collecting dust off a grinder into any kind of dust collection system is extremely dangerous if any kind of spark gets into that system.  FIRE.    Don't do this on materials that could spark

We lost a furniture factory here in Indiana 3 years ago because of this. 
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You are right Rodger.  There isn't much of a concern for collection for cutting metal.  I only have an interest in dust collection for cementitious and other materials containing silica.  There isn't a big risk of fire collecting dust from these materials, although it is possible.   
 
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