whats the best small angle grinder with dust colection out there.

welcome to the fog
i still havnt got this yet.
my local dealer has a dewalt schroud that 'should' fit my normal grinder.
 
Hi Alan, thanks for your reply.

I've tried other shrouds, I even own a Bosch one, and they're awful. Even if they could capture 90% of all dust (as they claim), the amount of airborne dust when cutting through masonry/concrete is unbearable. The Protool seems to work, and the fact that it fits the Festool/Protool rails is also a big plus - I can use my current guide rails.

Do you or anyone here know anyone who could try one with a Bosch grinder - perhaps a local Protool rep somewhere in Europe or Australia?

This issue is starting to upset me, because Protool have not answered 3 emails asking about this. Why? Are they not interested in selling the shroud without the angle grinder?

I've looked at the manual for the AGP 125 and the grinder "collar" seems to have 2 or 3 notches which need to be aligned with those on accessories like blade guards, or the dust shroud. This looks very similar to the system used on the more recent Bosch models (models with a tool-less blade guard change system).

I think that if the DCC 125 and 230 shrouds were to fit Bosch grinders and people knew that, Protool would probably sell many units - am I wrong?

cheers,
Gaius
 
nothing  worse than a company not replying to emails. it drives me nuts. i know there could be many valid reasons but it still shouldnt happen

i wonder if you PM warren at tool fest . he might have one and be able to answer your questions.

i couldnt find any reason why it wouldnt fit either.

your local dealer should order in one for you to try. my dealer would do that for me . we cant by protool here in ireland because there is another company trading under that name . if it wasnt for that and the problems getting it somewhere else i would have bought this tool ages ago
 
I would think it would be possible to create the rail-riding / dust-collecting part of the grinder as an attachment that would replace the guard on a grinder design that was otherwise somewhat more traditional?

Think "Fast Fix" wheel guards, one of which was designed for these straight (possibly plunge?) cuts on a guide rail, one for "freehand" grinding wheel use (use like any other grinder), and one for "freehand" cutoff wheel use...

Enable use for agressive sanding via pads compatible with existing Festool abrasives...
 
Alan m said:
nothing  worse than a company not replying to emails. it drives me nuts. i know there could be many valid reasons but it still shouldnt happen

i wonder if you PM warren at tool fest . he might have one and be able to answer your questions.

i couldnt find any reason why it wouldnt fit either.

your local dealer should order in one for you to try. my dealer would do that for me . we cant by protool here in ireland because there is another company trading under that name . if it wasnt for that and the problems getting it somewhere else i would have bought this tool ages ago
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I asked Warren when it was first released but got no answer.

Maybe protool don't want any one to buy it separate.
 
fdengel said:
I would think it would be possible to create the rail-riding / dust-collecting part of the grinder as an attachment that would replace the guard on a grinder design that was otherwise somewhat more traditional?

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The current offerings are just that. They are add ons for their regular angle grinders. The difference with aftermarket dusthood offerings is that those offer different reduction rings to fit different sized collars .

guiderail dusthood
surface grinding dusthood
regular angle grinder
 
Good Evening

I think my name's been mentioned once or ten times (thank you JMB), so I thought I better join in.

The DCC and DCG systems are superb in my humble opinion, the grinders are powerful and the dust extraction is very impressive, and that is not 'Sales Speak', it is from personal experience. To try and answer a few queries:

The machines are only available in 240v. So probably a no-go for US users, coupled with the scary shipping costs due to the volumetric weight.

We only sell Protool grinders so I can't comment on fitment to other brands, sorry.

In use on tiles, there is a little chipping, so not ideal for tile joints, but okay for hidden perimeter edges.

Perfect for the 'Concreate' flooring system recently launched in the UK, in fact we have worked with the importers and they recommend their installers to buy a Protool System.

Really good for clean dust free cutting of paving products.

Of course we have a 125mm Cutting System on our Demo fleet to show customers and are happy to show it off if you are local and want to try it out for yourself. We have the 125mm cutting system in stock, the 125mm grinding system is on back-order, with a expected delivery date of May/June, but this may slip. I would have to check on availability on the 230mm systems if anyone was interested.

Many may say it's just a grinder with a shroud on a rail with a dust extractor, which in a sense is true. But it's a quality system which performs way beyond expectation, just like the first time I saw a TS 55 on a rail with CTL MIDI, which is a circular saw on a rail with a vacuum, but it's not just that, it's much more.
Best regards

Warren
 
toolfest.co.uk said:
Good Evening

I think my name's been mentioned once or ten times (thank you JMB), so I thought I better join in.

The DCC and DCG systems are superb in my humble opinion, the grinders are powerful and the dust extraction is very impressive, and that is not 'Sales Speak', it is from personal experience. To try and answer a few queries:

The machines are only available in 240v. So probably a no-go for US users, coupled with the scary shipping costs due to the volumetric weight.

We only sell Protool grinders so I can't comment on fitment to other brands, sorry.

In use on tiles, there is a little chipping, so not ideal for tile joints, but okay for hidden perimeter edges.

Perfect for the 'Concreate' flooring system recently launched in the UK, in fact we have worked with the importers and they recommend their installers to buy a Protool System.

Really good for clean dust free cutting of paving products.

Of course we have a 125mm Cutting System on our Demo fleet to show customers and are happy to show it off if you are local and want to try it out for yourself. We have the 125mm cutting system in stock, the 125mm grinding system is on back-order, with a expected delivery date of May/June, but this may slip. I would have to check on availability on the 230mm systems if anyone was interested.

Many may say it's just a grinder with a shroud on a rail with a dust extractor, which in a sense is true. But it's a quality system which performs way beyond expectation, just like the first time I saw a TS 55 on a rail with CTL MIDI, which is a circular saw on a rail with a vacuum, but it's not just that, it's much more.
Best regards

Warren
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Hee hee

Didn't kno wa u was on bout at first but just went through all the posts......... I do mention ur name a few times dont I.

Well it got your attention anyway [tongue]

 
toolfest.co.uk said:
Good Evening

I think my name's been mentioned once or ten times (thank you JMB), so I thought I better join in.

The DCC and DCG systems are superb in my humble opinion, the grinders are powerful and the dust extraction is very impressive, and that is not 'Sales Speak', it is from personal experience. To try and answer a few queries:

The machines are only available in 240v. So probably a no-go for US users, coupled with the scary shipping costs due to the volumetric weight.

We only sell Protool grinders so I can't comment on fitment to other brands, sorry.

In use on tiles, there is a little chipping, so not ideal for tile joints, but okay for hidden perimeter edges.

Perfect for the 'Concreate' flooring system recently launched in the UK, in fact we have worked with the importers and they recommend their installers to buy a Protool System.

Really good for clean dust free cutting of paving products.

Of course we have a 125mm Cutting System on our Demo fleet to show customers and are happy to show it off if you are local and want to try it out for yourself. We have the 125mm cutting system in stock, the 125mm grinding system is on back-order, with a expected delivery date of May/June, but this may slip. I would have to check on availability on the 230mm systems if anyone was interested.

Many may say it's just a grinder with a shroud on a rail with a dust extractor, which in a sense is true. But it's a quality system which performs way beyond expectation, just like the first time I saw a TS 55 on a rail with CTL MIDI, which is a circular saw on a rail with a vacuum, but it's not just that, it's much more.
Best regards

Warren
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I must confess to playing with the grinder on the track for a few minutes and trying to think of reasons to buy it [embarassed]

I may be able to pull off getting one, along with something from the Protool surface restoration range, if I tackle the bathroom.

I'd be interested to know if there's any technical differences between the Festool and Protool DC extraction/filtration.

 
Protool have now provided a reply.
They have only tested the small 125mm dust shroud with angle grinders from other manufacturers. Although they don't rule out the possibility of it working with some specific model, the ones they tested didn't fit.

So I'll probably end up buying an AGP 230-22 in order to be able to use the DCC 230 dust shroud.

Not an ideal situation, but alas...
 
Swapped my grinders over to Hilti for the improved dust extraction. Have to be a bit careful selecting the right parts/tools as there are different fittings on their range of grinders IIRC.

Also converted old atf track saw to cut stone/tile, bit naughty on two accounts, abrasive dust much nastier than sawdust so I offset that a bit by adding a water kit to it  [big grin]. Wouldn't recommend doing it to any new/nearly new kit or anything you were worried about and wouldn't have done so if not a 110v unit running off a tranny. Worked a champ on flooring I needed to do,  using the track of course.

 
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