which cleaning set?

[Corwin]

thanks so much for the photos,  now I understand how this works.  so -I will need two rotating assemblies,  one for each side of the cut,  right?

Well, that depends on what you are trying to accomplish...  You can order two of the Rotating Connectors and a Hose Connector so you can connect the two sections back together.  Or, you could order one Rotating Connector and one D36 Reducing Sleeve if you want two shorter lengths of D36 that each have tool-end fittings.  Another choice is to order a longer D36 hose, say the 5m version, and whatever ends you will need -- that way you can have a 3.5m hose for your tools and a 1.5m hose just for your Kapex.  Also, a shorter D36 hose for you Kapex could either be made up with a D36 Rotating Connector on one end and a D36 Reducing Sleeve on the other, OR you could make a hose with the D36 Rotating Connectors on each end and get a Non-Antistatic Hose Reducer to connect with your Kapex.  You may wish check out the 50mm Hose to Kapex thread here.

 

[MrToolJunkie]

I sure am glad you guys pointed out the fact that the general purpose kit came with NON A.S. hose...  that would have been a real disappointment!
the tradesperson/installer kit is definitely the right choice for me,  though I want to pickup not only the turbo brush,  but that large floor sweep that Corwin vouches for...

Stairman,

I would check the pricing of getting the the Workshop set tht includes the metal floor sweep (I am with Corwin on this one that it is one of the best accessories Festool sells) and then adding the other parts vs. paying a little less for the Tradesperson set and then adding the floor sweep -- I could be wrong, but I think that you might get a little bit of a break buying it in the set vs. adding it separately and the other parts are not that expensive.

Scot

 

[SteveC]

Corwin,
Am I wrong or does your last pic show connecting the 27mm female end to the 36mm female end  instead of male to female ?
If so, what is that connection used for?
I split my 36mm hose and just checked to be sure, the 36mm male to female connection doesn't work meaning I have to buy the sleeve connector.
You think the hoses would connect together without an adapter !
So making a 2 piece 36mm hose that can reconnect costs $55.

 

[Corwin]

Stairman,

You might also want to look at the Turbo Suction Brush thread.

Corwin,
Am I wrong or does your last pic show connecting the 27mm female end to the 36mm female end  instead of male to female ?
If so, what is that connection used for?

Those pictures were originally used to illustrate how to connect a D27 hose to the end of a D36 hose by swapping out the tool-end fitting (Reducing Sleeve) on the D36 for a vac-end fitting (Rotating Connector) and connect the two with the Hose Connector.  So, to answer your question;  yes and no, as YES that photo shows connecting a D27 to a D36 hose, but NO, those are not female end-fittings but rather both hoses have male end-fittings which are joined with the (female) Hose Connector.   [blink]  

Steve, I see you had edited your post ...  The vacuum-end (Rotating Connectors) are really male, not female fittings.  You can use the Non-Antistatic Hose Reducer to connect another hose to the end of a D36 hose without changing the tool-end (Reducing Sleeve) fitting -- but, do take care as it is a tight fit and after my pointing this connection out to Brice, he cracked the Reducing Sleeve on his D36 hose.  

 

[Brice Burrell]

As an alternative to the Festool turbo brush, I picked up one of these: Pro-Team 100117 11" Turbo Brush Carpet Floor Tool Attachment. It fits standard Shop-Vac type hoses, so you need an adapter for it to work with the Festool hoses, but it does work quite well.

- Mike

Mike, I'm sure there are plenty of members that would like to hear more about his turbo brush.

 

[stairman]

wow!  I just lost two fist-fulls of hair over that!
I did NOT like that website that the 11" Pro-Team beater brush is sold on!  -but that only prompted me to seek out the company website to learn more about their products...  My concern is that with nearly a foot of width,  there may not be enough vacuum power to efficaciously run that turbo brush ???  and after perusing over to Pro-Team's site,  I can see that most of their vacuums don't have the power our FESTOOL CT's have.  now,  they do have a few with more CFM,  but of course, that isn't the only spec by which a vacuum is measured,  bottom line,  I have no doubt my CT22 could spin the 11" attachment with all the might one could ever need...

Thanks for mentioning that,  it is certainly worth consideration!

I think I now understand everything needed to split a 36mm hose whilst keeping it as versatile as it can possibly be,  and as for the accessories,  I think everything is accounted for in my "shopping cart" so I can get everything ordered in one fell swoop!

I added a "Y" connector -w blanking plug,  but...  I have so many blast gates in all sorts of sizes,  that I am going to experiment with a couple small gates rather than the "blanking plug" approach.  gates are much faster and easier.

I notice that with the Boom Arm, I am constantly pulling the hose off one tool and sticking it on another.
Y-ing into at least two branches at the top of the Boom Arm should increase efficiency a great deal,  and while I am at it, I think I will make a "Y" Plug-It assembly that merges into a single 10ga cord the length of the boom and 50mm ext hose and to the receptacle on the CT. 
now there is a good idea for a Festool Accessory, eh!?

a "Y" 36mm hose with BLASTGATES and an integral 10ga cord that splits into a pair of 16ga plug-it cords along with the hose  -and the electrical cord is molded right to the A.S. hose!
you just "unzip" it as far back as you feel comfy with  8)  I'd obviously buy one!

 

[atomicmike]

As an alternative to the Festool turbo brush, I picked up one of these: Pro-Team 100117 11" Turbo Brush Carpet Floor Tool Attachment. It fits standard Shop-Vac type hoses, so you need an adapter for it to work with the Festool hoses, but it does work quite well.

- Mike

Mike, I'm sure there are plenty of members that would like to hear more about his turbo brush.

I haven't used it a ton yet since I don't have any carpeting, just two area rugs, but I have been pretty pleased with it. My only gripe is that the connection on it isn't the same diameter as the Festool cleaning accessories, but I knew that before I ordered. Plus, it was easy to fix with the Fein step adapter and some duct tape.

Here's a couple of videos I just shot to test it out. I took some pine shavings and rubbed them into a floor mat as my test debris. The first is with the brush on the D27 hose; it's respectable, and probably good enough for light cleaning tasks, but it doesn't get everything, and I've noticed on deeper pile carpet that it can get overwhelmed pretty easily.

Pro-Team Turbo Brush w/ D27 hose

This second video is with the D36 hose. As with the Festool turbo brush, it does a much more thorough job of cleaning, and doesn't bog down as easily. You can even see a couple of times where it tries to pull the mat along with it!

Pro-Team Turbo Brush w/ D36 hose

I'd be happy to answer any other questions about the brush if I can. And thanks to Brice's prodding, my Festool floor mat is the cleanest it's been in a long time.

- Mike

 

[Ken Nagrod]

Mike,

I've found the CT with the D36 hose can clean carpeting so well that I sometimes have to turn the CT's speed down to keep from lifting carpets, especially runners.

 

[stairman]

I used t have a 4500sf shop with some 27 individual permanent machine stations + whatever temp setups the present workload demanded.  dust collection was always getting switched around,  and I found that a tape called  GAFFERS TAPE  worked alot better than duct, packing or what most of us normally use for temporary vacuum connections in the shop.  this is where I get it from:

http://www.uline.com/BL_3110/Gaffers-Tape?pricode=wf726&gclid=COTzlaPOvq0CFRFV7AoddGaDAw

this stuff is strong,  holds whatever you tape with it,  but leaves no residue to clean off your gear, as many other tapes do.

Got my 36mm hose yesterday,  and wow! what a difference! ;D ;D

 

[Brice Burrell]

I haven't used it a ton yet since I don't have any carpeting, just two area rugs, but I have been pretty pleased with it. My only gripe is that the connection on it isn't the same diameter as the Festool cleaning accessories, but I knew that before I ordered. Plus, it was easy to fix with the Fein step adapter and some duct tape.....

- Mike

That would likely be a deal breaker for most people.  Personally, I hate duct taping hoses.

 

[Brice Burrell]

Does anyone have this universal brush nozzle?  I was thinking it might be better for getting into corners or other tighter place over the round version.  Any feedback would be appreciated.

 

[atomicmike]

I haven't used it a ton yet since I don't have any carpeting, just two area rugs, but I have been pretty pleased with it. My only gripe is that the connection on it isn't the same diameter as the Festool cleaning accessories, but I knew that before I ordered. Plus, it was easy to fix with the Fein step adapter and some duct tape.....

- Mike

That would likely be a deal breaker for most people.  Personally, I hate duct taping hoses.

I will definitely agree with you there. Strictly speaking, it can be used without duct tape, but because the Fein adapter is flexible, it tends to work loose when you're using it at the end of an extension tube. Of course, you can also use it with standard shop van hoses, and avoid the duct tape and adapter altogether, but that's not an ideal solution for me.

I'm hoping to find a better solution for the long term, since the adapter is a fairly thick material, it is reducing the effective diameter of that connection further. I'm hoping to find something that will fit tightly over the outside of the hose connection on the turbo brush, but haven't had a chance to do much looking just yet.

I also just noticed that they offer the same brush with a slightly different sized hose connection here (1 1/2" vs 1 1/4" on the one I have). It's possible that model would be easier to connect or adapt to a Festool hose.

- Mike

 

[tbellemare]

Does anyone have this universal brush nozzle?  I was thinking it might be better for getting into corners or other tighter place over the round version.  Any feedback would be appreciated.

They recently changed the design of that nozzle. It used to be very rectangular.

Tom

 

[Corwin]

Does anyone have this universal brush nozzle?  I was thinking it might be better for getting into corners or other tighter place over the round version.  Any feedback would be appreciated.

They recently changed the design of that nozzle. It used to be very rectangular.

Tom

Yeah, I have the older version and find it rather awkward -- this new version look much better with a more pointed nose and a steeper angle where it connects to the tube or hose.

 

[AllStarD]

just wrap your metal hoses in painters tape, this has saved me before, and 2 you can make it look pretty cool with the right tape!

 

[semenza]

Does anyone have this universal brush nozzle?  I was thinking it might be better for getting into corners or other tighter place over the round version.  Any feedback would be appreciated.

They recently changed the design of that nozzle. It used to be very rectangular.

Tom

Is that seam on the tube a place where it will rotate to change the angle?

Seth

 

[Samo]

Yep! Rotates.  Very helpful cleaning awkward areas, casing heads over large doors. etc.

So does this one

http://www.industrialvacs.com/Brush_Nozzle_plastic_3_rectangular_5146_p/n5146.htm

Hard to tell from the photo.  Rotates and I like it as well as the standard Festool brush.

 

[Tinker]

It has been my experience with several pipe & tubing suppliers that, even when buying from same company, fittings and hoses never seem to match together.  I do not like the problems that come with using duct tape if i know i will be undoing again in a short while.  When I was in construction, we used a lot of Fermco (rubber with band type steel hose clamps to secure) fittings.  They come in many sizes including combo sizes for connecting two different sized tubes.  It is sometimes a PITA to have to use the necessary screwdriver or wrench that will be needed; but that is less problem IMHO than the duct tape problems.  Plus, when making a change, I do not have to throw away leftover/destroyed tape.  I keep a small supply of Fermcos in a designated drawer just for temporary and/or the odd permanent connections.  Of course, i have another problem not everybody runs into.  My son is in the excavating business.  One of his clients is a water system company.  He often gets called out for underground repairs at odd hours and on weekends/holidays.  Invariably, he needs one more Fermco.  He always knows where he can find just what he needs  [doh]
Tinker

 

[Tinker]

I have been resisting buying a cleaning set for many moons. Too cheap and the open hose end seems to work fine.  Lately, some of my shop work space has spilled over into THE BOSS LADY'S laundry space.  I can see a problem developing.  either I find a better way to keep her carpeted area better cleaned >>> or>>> do the laundry.  I think that demo vid on the page 1 of this conversation just may have saved my life. I think the turbo nozzle will be a part of my next Festoy order.  No matter how try to avoid this slippery slope, i just cannot get off of it.  Maybe that nozzle is efficient enough it will just suck me up and my problems will be ended. :

I have a 36mm 3.5m hose connected to my boom.  I have cut down several pieces of 27mm to about .5m lengths that i have connected to several of my most used toys. (especially the ATF 55 and OF 1000) Those short lengths insert directly (with proper fittings) into the 36mm hose.  It can be a pain to hook hose to some of the tools, so leaving the "pigtailed" hose connected to the tool and just disconnecting/connecting pigtails is a big time saving adjustment.
Tinker

 

[semenza]

Yep! Rotates.  Very helpful cleaning awkward areas, casing heads over large doors. etc.

So does this one

http://www.industrialvacs.com/Brush_Nozzle_plastic_3_rectangular_5146_p/n5146.htm

Hard to tell from the photo.  Rotates and I like it as well as the standard Festool brush.

That rotation is handy.  I have the regular Festool round brush for general clean up. I also keep a Miele round brush in my site kit that has the rotating feature. I got the Miele  because it has super soft bristles. I use it to clean up  on delicate or finished surfaces in customers homes just to ensure no scratching.

Seth