Which would be the first Festool you'd let go?

Carvex. Always reach for my 14.4volt Makita in preference. The carvex wasn't a massive improvement over the B & D proline I'd been using before (better yes, but not massively so)
 
Wow, lots of different opinions.  Some I can see and some don't make sense, to me, but everyone is different.

First, any of my kids is worth selling all of my Festool tools.

My first tool I'd sell is the one that I've been trying to sell, the EHL 65E.  However, out of the tools I do have a need for I'd sell a few of them in this order:

ETS125 - Since my RO125 is a very good sander I don't need 2 ETS125's so I'd sell one of them.  Come to think of it that's a good idea.

Carvex 420 - I really like this tool but for what I use it for I could get by with a cheaper option

Planex/CT36 AC - There are other non-Festool items I'd sell before this setup and I haven't even used it yet!  Could have really used it on the last house refurb I did.  Got a great price on both the Planex and CT.  I know it'll save a ton of time and energy on the next house.

Kapex - As someone else said, is it worth $1k more than a less expensive option?  No, but that dust collection is a very big deal!  If I used another miter saw I would probably use it a LOT less than I use my Kapex because I wouldn't want to deal with the dust.

The rest of them would begin to interfere with my ability to get things done which means that any item I'd sell I'd have to get a replacement and then I'd have to ask, is the money I'm saving worth the difference?
 
Either the ETS125 or the CXS -- probably the ETS.  I have redundant products in both categories.
 
Couldn't you use the MFT/3 as a baby change table and to justify keeping it?  Gotta keep baby aligned with the diapers, or bad things can happen ;)

I use each of my Festool tools a fair bit.  I think I have a Festool pencil that I could let go, though.
 
Let's see, which Festool would I do away with....
I dunno, I use all of them depending on what job I working on.

I guess with all the aftermarket parallel guides out now, the PGs would be first, only to be replaced with a after market one.

Next would be the Kapex. Not that it isn't a great tool but since I'm shop bound I can make the same cross cuts and miners with my TS 55 and MFT.

That being said, now that I own them, I'd never get rid of them.
 
Chris Wong said:
Couldn't you use the MFT/3 as a baby change table and to justify keeping it?  Gotta keep baby aligned with the diapers, or bad things can happen ;)

I use each of my Festool tools a fair bit.  I think I have a Festool pencil that I could let go, though.
SUREEEEEE,  and hold the little nipper still on the table with a Quick Clamp or two.... After all ,you don't want them squirming about when changing their diapers... [eek]
 
Julian Tracy said:
I had and sold plenty of them; they're expensive enough to be a bit silly to just be sitting around if you need the cash for other things.

MFT 1080 - sold when I found a used MFT/3 - sold that after I made my own version of a top.

Rotex 150 - really, what good is this sander?  Makes for a very crappy finish sander, and how often do you really need a super agressive random orbit sander?  Kept the ETS/150 - love that, and have the Rotex 90 - great for it's versatility.

ETS125 - didnt care for any more than any other 5" sander, but more importantly, seemed to be no reason to use it over the ETS150

CXS - nice, but little need for it seing as how I already had a CD12 drill setup

700 trim router - thought it'd be great for plastic edge banding, but not really... and I own a nice US made PC trim laminate installers kit.

1400 router - everyone's favorite - but I found it too heavy for a mid-sized router and the Festool advantage: dust collection - was no better than everyone else's clip on plastic tube attachment.  Using it obscured just about all vision of the bit - did not like that aspect. 

Domino - Loved it, had it since it was released, maybe only the 2nd Festool I've ever bought new.  Bought it for a stair railing job and used it for many staircases as well as tons of cabinets and doors, but way too high dollar to sit when I didn't have any active cabinet type work calling my name.  I'd buy another if the right job came up.  sold it for a bit more than I paid new though.

Parallel guides - used for a large job, but no secrets the poor design decisions they've got going for them... SOLD!

LS130 sander - was a complete surprise how single use this sander was - barely used it.

My situation is different though - I buy most of my tools used, so in all all of my festool sales, I've made a bit of money as I've always sold for more than I've paid....

JT

Jeez Julian,  Do you like Festool at all?
 
I honestly doubt I could ever sell one.  I really cherish every festool purchase.  Because of the cost, once you own it, it's a "lifetime tool"- frank,  BUT. That being said, my LS130 has only ever seen one job.  It would go first if I had to.  But I never would. 
 
leakyroof said:
Chris Wong said:
Couldn't you use the MFT/3 as a baby change table and to justify keeping it?  Gotta keep baby aligned with the diapers, or bad things can happen ;)

I use each of my Festool tools a fair bit.  I think I have a Festool pencil that I could let go, though.
SUREEEEEE,  and hold the little nipper still on the table with a Quick Clamp or two.... After all ,you don't want them squirming about when changing their diapers... [eek]

Does the fact I find this side-splittingly hilarious indicate I'm unfit to be a dad?  [eek]

I mean, the quick clamps do have rubber pads...it's not like I'd be using bare metal clamps or anything.
 
live4ever said:
leakyroof said:
Chris Wong said:
Couldn't you use the MFT/3 as a baby change table and to justify keeping it?  Gotta keep baby aligned with the diapers, or bad things can happen ;)

I use each of my Festool tools a fair bit.  I think I have a Festool pencil that I could let go, though.
SUREEEEEE,  and hold the little nipper still on the table with a Quick Clamp or two.... After all ,you don't want them squirming about when changing their diapers... [eek]

Does the fact I find this side-splittingly hilarious indicate I'm unfit to be a dad?  [eek]

I mean, the quick clamps do have rubber pads...it's not like I'd be using bare metal clamps or anything.
I think it just means that you haven't fully realized all the benefits of the Festool system.  Lots of thing seem ridiculous until you try them.  Then again...
 
live4ever said:
leakyroof said:
Chris Wong said:
Couldn't you use the MFT/3 as a baby change table and to justify keeping it?  Gotta keep baby aligned with the diapers, or bad things can happen ;)

I use each of my Festool tools a fair bit.  I think I have a Festool pencil that I could let go, though.
SUREEEEEE,  and hold the little nipper still on the table with a Quick Clamp or two.... After all ,you don't want them squirming about when changing their diapers... [eek]

Does the fact I find this side-splittingly hilarious indicate I'm unfit to be a dad?  [eek]

I mean, the quick clamps do have rubber pads...it's not like I'd be using bare metal clamps or anything.
  We here on FOG DOUBLE DARE you to You Tube this . Of course, post it under an alias just to be on the safe side.... [wink]
 
Chris Wong said:
live4ever said:
leakyroof said:
Chris Wong said:
Couldn't you use the MFT/3 as a baby change table and to justify keeping it?  Gotta keep baby aligned with the diapers, or bad things can happen ;)

I use each of my Festool tools a fair bit.  I think I have a Festool pencil that I could let go, though.
SUREEEEEE,  and hold the little nipper still on the table with a Quick Clamp or two.... After all ,you don't want them squirming about when changing their diapers... [eek]

Does the fact I find this side-splittingly hilarious indicate I'm unfit to be a dad?  [eek]

I mean, the quick clamps do have rubber pads...it's not like I'd be using bare metal clamps or anything.
I think it just means that you haven't fully realized all the benefits of the Festool system.  Lots of thing seem ridiculous until you try them.  Then again...

Hmmm... I'm thinking of a taller auxiliary fence for the clamping elements.  And maybe a bungee cord adapted to fit around a pair of Parf dogs...  That would keep the tyke in alignment with little chance of damage (to the tyke, that is). [big grin]
 
Jesse Cloud said:
Chris Wong said:
live4ever said:
leakyroof said:
Chris Wong said:
Couldn't you use the MFT/3 as a baby change table and to justify keeping it?  Gotta keep baby aligned with the diapers, or bad things can happen ;)

I use each of my Festool tools a fair bit.  I think I have a Festool pencil that I could let go, though.
SUREEEEEE,  and hold the little nipper still on the table with a Quick Clamp or two.... After all ,you don't want them squirming about when changing their diapers... [eek]

Does the fact I find this side-splittingly hilarious indicate I'm unfit to be a dad?  [eek]

I mean, the quick clamps do have rubber pads...it's not like I'd be using bare metal clamps or anything.
I think it just means that you haven't fully realized all the benefits of the Festool system.  Lots of thing seem ridiculous until you try them.  Then again...

Hmmm... I'm thinking of a taller auxiliary fence for the clamping elements.  And maybe a bungee cord adapted to fit around a pair of Parf dogs...  That would keep the tyke in alignment with little chance of damage (to the tyke, that is). [big grin]

Nah....  Best option is the Vac-Sys! [tongue]  Kid can wiggle, but can't get out of the suction! [big grin]
 
Jeez Julian,  Do you like Festool at all?
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Sure Jim,

Still have about a 10' tall stack of systainers myself. 

TS55, RS400, ETS150, RO90, TS65...etc...

There's just such a short supply of practical cost vs. value advice on this site that my unvarnished view stands out as negative.

I'm not a hobbiest though, so I guess those there are some here that are probably are making more money at their day jobs than me and don't really require a true return on investment other than it makes you happy to buy shiny cool tools that you also happen to use here and there.  I can understand the appeal of that as well.

Lot's of "Oh, now you have to buy this, and be sure to buy (4) MFT's - they're super handy to sit your stock on while it dries...." At $600 a pop!

I'm a tool snob like most here, would cringe at using cheap tools, but in a lot of cases, there are better choices than the Festool alternatives, or at least, high quality tools that do the job at 1/4 the price.

JT

 
I thought about this till my brain hurt ... no answer.

So then I started thinking about other tools ... only upgrades came to mind [embarassed]

Outside of Festool and tools in general I do have a number of things I'm trying to rationalise ... the thing that hurts most with "stuff" is you get about 20% of what you paid for it and there's that chance that you may want to use it ... some day ... and have to pay for it again!

 
SittingElf said:
Nah....  Best option is the Vac-Sys! [tongue]  Kid can wiggle, but can't get out of the suction! [big grin]

Given the "leakage problem" inherent in kids [scratch chin], do you REALLY want to have one near a good Festool Vac-Sys???  Mr. Yuk comes to mind really quickly...  [scared]
 
Julian Tracy said:
Jeez Julian,  Do you like Festool at all?

Sure Jim,

Still have about a 10' tall stack of systainers myself. 

TS55, RS400, ETS150, RO90, TS65...etc...

There's just such a short supply of practical cost vs. value advice on this site that my unvarnished view stands out as negative.

I'm not a hobbiest though, so I guess those there are some here that are probably are making more money at their day jobs than me and don't really require a true return on investment other than it makes you happy to buy shiny cool tools that you also happen to use here and there.  I can understand the appeal of that as well.

Lot's of "Oh, now you have to buy this, and be sure to buy (4) MFT's - they're super handy to sit your stock on while it dries...." At $600 a pop!

I'm a tool snob like most here, would cringe at using cheap tools, but in a lot of cases, there are better choices than the Festool alternatives, or at least, high quality tools that do the job at 1/4 the price.

JT
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My assessment would be JT that you lean more towards being frugal about tools and purchases, and have adapted a One Time Tool (LOL) approach for using and then selling tools that you don't have a continued use for.  I guess that is one thing about Festools that many other brands can't compete with, resale value.

Up until I bought into Festools, I had never considered selling a tool other than a stationary one that you could get a decent return on your investment.  I haven't sold any of my Festools, but, did buy some used ones once with the plan of selling those I didn't need, which I did.

I have a few tools I could or should probably sale, but, I would rather hold on to them long term, I bought them new, I know their history, and wouldn't want to sale a tool only to buy a replacement a year later, and go through that process again.

Gary
 
I love my T-18 but right now I'm considering getting rid of it when the Bosch Flexiclick becomes available in the US.  The reason is that I am getting very tired and frustrated waiting for a Festool 18v impact driver.  The fact that I'm in the US means that it is years away.  I have a small shop in my house and don't want a drawer full of chargers and batteries from multiple manufacturers.  I just want a "system" of compatible cordless tools. Since I have a PS 300 and TS-75 and don't plan on buying a cordless Carvex or TSC55 for me this comes down to compatible drill/drivers/impact driver. 

The fact that the Bosch Flexiclick is also a hammer drill, like the PDC, is an added plus.  I like the idea of a combo drill/driver/hammer drill like the PDC but wouldn't buy the PDC because it doesn't have an option for the eccentric chuck like the T-18 and the Bosch.  I have found the eccentric chuck to be an incredibly useful problem solver and wouldn't want a drill without one. 

It is clear from the long thread on the Flexiclick that it isn't perfect but given Festools current product offerings it appears to meet my needs better.  If the PDC had an eccentric chuck and Festool made a TI-18 then I wouldn't even be considering going with Bosch.  Unfortunately, that isn't the case.
 
The Ti15 impact drill. Not the greatest, adequate for my needs but I wouldn't get another one if this broke or got stolen.
 
It's a coin flip between the pencil and the tape measure.

My folding ruler, no way. :)
 
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