Wooden Storms - 30+

[Charles Wilson]

I am thinking about purchasing the Domino for a summer time project - 30+ wooden storms for my old colonial.

Anyone reproduced wooden storms that would like to share some pictures?  If not, can anyone point me to video/pics of joining two pieces of wood as in a wooden storm?

Thanks,
Chuck

 

[semenza]

Hi,

    I am gradually working on storms for my parents billion year old house.    The ones I am doing are nothing special - big two light rectangular frames roughly three feet by five feet.  I am currently using butt joints with biscuits. Since I have at least ten to go perhap I will NEED( : ) a Domino,

Seth

 

[Charles Wilson]

Do you think that the biscuits and but joints will hold?

Chuck

 

[semenza]

Do you think that the biscuits and but joints will hold?

Chuck

    I did the first one about two years ago. So far no problems. These windows don't get opened or closed very often. Or removed either. I don't see why they shouldn't hold up.  Time will tell.  I am sure Dominos (especially exterior ones)  would be better than biscuits and probably all the strength  ever needed.

Seth

 

[Dave Ronyak]

I am interested in doing much the same for my 50+ yrs old house.  I expect use of my Domino will make for quick work on the frames.  What are others using for the glazing?  Anyone using plastic such as Lexan or acrylic?  I was thinking that 1/8 inch thick plastic might be a good choice to save weight and increase safety.  I am concerned about using glass due to the size and therefore weight of some of the units I will need, several of which are about 3ft X 6ft, and a couple are 4ft X 5 ft.

Dave R.

 

[semenza]

I am interested in doing much the same for my 50+ yrs old house.  I expect use of my Domino will make for quick work on the frames.  What are others using for the glazing?  Anyone using plastic such as Lexan or acrylic?  I was thinking that 1/8 inch thick plastic might be a good choice to save weight and increase safety.  I am concerned about using glass due to the size and therefore weight of some of the units I will need, several of which are about 3ft X 6ft, and a couple are 4ft X 5 ft.

Dave R.

Dave,

    I used real glass. So far so good. But I like your thoughts on using acrylic or something.  Especially for the ones that go on the second story. It would be a lot less weight to work with up there. Lesss weight for the frame to have to deal  with holding together too!

Seth

 

[brandon.nickel]

My experience with using clear acrylic is that after 3-4 years of sun exposure it starts to yellow badly.  Then again, the last piece I bought a few months ago now claims to have a UV-resistant, non-yellowing coating.  Maybe they've fixed it.

 

[Dan Lyke]

The house I'm moving out of has some flat acrylic skylights that are still quite clear. We've lived in the place for 3 years, but knowing what I do of the history of the place, I'd bet they're 10 years old, so it's probably a matter of what type of acrylic you get.

 

[Eli]

Lexan won't yellow, and is shatterproof. It's reflected in the price difference between that and plex, which I think is UV stable for all but the cheapest brands (plexiglas is proprietary). I wouldn't use 1/8" for anything bigger than about 2' square, it might bow enough to pop out of the frame if there's any wind. If it was me I'd use at least 1/4" for a 3x5 or 3x6 frame. 3/8" would be enough to stop coconuts or suicidal chickadees. I'd probably use silicone to mount in the frame.

 

[semenza]

Lexan won't yellow, and is shatterproof. It's reflected in the price difference between that and plex, which I think is UV stable for all but the cheapest brands (plexiglas is proprietary). I wouldn't use 1/8" for anything bigger than about 2' square, it might bow enough to pop out of the frame if there's any wind. If it was me I'd use at least 1/4" for a 3x5 or 3x6 frame. 3/8" would be enough to stop coconuts or suicidal chickadees. I'd probably use silicone to mount in the frame.

Hi,

    Yes, good thoughts.  BTW will 3/8" stop a swallow carrying a coconut? 

Seth

 

[mysterium]

Semenza said "BTW will 3/8" stop a swallow carrying a coconut?  "

1/2" Lexan will stop a 357 magnum  & is used in airline wind shield.  However the last time bought a couple of sheets ( 1 - 4 x8, 1 - 5 x 9) of 1/2" Lexan  for a stairway I built for a customer the wholesale cost was over $1k....  1/4" Lexan was about $10 per before oil went to $100 a barrel.  At those price it had better "stop a swallow carrying a coconut?"

jim

 

[Eli]

Most of my experience with Lexan was making camera shields to stop bullet hits. 1/2" is the standard. I never bought it myself, but it's use was a good indicator of price. When I first started in the film business, we used to cut four shields at once, and peel fresh paper on a piece for every take. When I left the business last year, we'd been using the same shield for four shows, and only g*d would help you if you scratched it.

 

[Dave Ronyak]

Lexan won't yellow, and is shatterproof. It's reflected in the price difference between that and plex, which I think is UV stable for all but the cheapest brands (plexiglas is proprietary). I wouldn't use 1/8" for anything bigger than about 2' square, it might bow enough to pop out of the frame if there's any wind. If it was me I'd use at least 1/4" for a 3x5 or 3x6 frame. 3/8" would be enough to stop coconuts or suicidal chickadees. I'd probably use silicone to mount in the frame.

Thanks, Eli.  Where I live I've got lots of crazy squirrels, racoons, deer and various birds (some of whom do occasionally try to fly through a window or fight their refected image), but no coconuts. 

Dave R.

 

[Eli]

    Yes, good thoughts.  BTW will 3/8" stop a swallow carrying a coconut? 
Seth

Damn, I almost missed the perfect setup.

Were you asking about an African or European swallow? ;D

 

[Charles Wilson]

Would anyone care to share photos of the storms?  I have some pics of mine that I plan on posting ASAP.

Regards,
Chuck

 

[semenza]

     Yes, good thoughts.   BTW will 3/8" stop a swallow carrying a coconut?   
Seth

Damn, I almost missed the perfect setup.

Were you asking about an African or European swallow? ;D

Eli,

  I wondered how long it would take for you or  someone to catch that   

          Didn't mean to take it off topic, but I couldn't resist with  "bird" and "coconut" showing up in your post about the strength.

Seth

 

[semenza]

Would anyone care to share photos of the storms?  I have some pics of mine that I plan on posting ASAP.

Regards,
Chuck

Hi,

      I will try to remember to take some pics the next time I am at my parents house where the windows are hung.

Seth

 

[Charles Wilson]

Question:

Could/Would you use pocket screws for the windows?

Also, how about those tenons from woodcraft and a router/mortiser?  Dowelmax?

What do ya think?

Chuck

 

[johnbro]

On boats you see Lexan and similar products used for fixed lights, port lights, and hatches. Exposure to UV will cause it to craze over time, requiring replacement. I would guess, depending on exposure, that it could take 15 years on storm windows.

 

[Eli]

Question:

Could/Would you use pocket screws for the windows?

Also, how about those tenons from woodcraft and a router/mortiser?  Dowelmax?

What do ya think?

Chuck

All are good options. The tricky part is getting some one else to paint for you.  ;D