Woodpeckers “Morty” loose tenon jig

[ChuckM]

https://www.woodpeck.com/morty-loose-tenon-jig.html

The unit and a decent router (which most of us have already) isn’t way off from what a domino costs (if you could find one).

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I have never tried this, but it's similar to WP's in working principle:
https://www.canadianwoodworking.com/mortise-pal-plunge-router-mortising-jig

 

[jeffinsgf]

However, they also suggest using their new tenon stock on through-mortises when using the Morty...I wonder how that will look as the Morty machines metric mortises using imperial router bits. There will be an elongated radius on the Morty mortise that will range from .018" on the 6 mm mortise to .097" on the 12 mm mortise.

The radius on the mortise does not come from the bit, it comes from the template/guide bushing combination. The bits are undersized to the finished mortise size and the difference between the bit and the bushing gives the proper width and end radius.  The fit of the tenon stock in both Morty and Domino mortises is pretty close to flawless...if you cut the mortise carefully. I groove the tenon stock starting about 1/8" behind the exposed end. While I used a mini-scraper in the video, in real life I use a carving tool...either a veiner or a vee-tool (whichever one I find first).

 

[Cheese]

The radius on the mortise does not come from the bit, it comes from the template/guide bushing combination. The bits are undersized to the finished mortise size and the difference between the bit and the bushing gives the proper width and end radius.  The fit of the tenon stock in both Morty and Domino mortises is pretty close to flawless...if you cut the mortise carefully.

Thanks Jeff...I should have seen that coming.  [embarassed]  That's a clever way to get the correct geometry.

Then answer me this, how do you provide 7 sizes while using only 4 guide bushings? One or more must be used in multiple set-ups.

 

[jeffinsgf]

One bushing does 3 sizes with 3 different bits. One does two sizes and then the last two do one each. To make it even more confusing, you only need 5 router bits to make 7 mortises.  [blink]

EDITED TO CORRECT.

 

[Crazyraceguy]

I really like the center alignment ability for this.  The domino isn't awesome when you want the mortise perfectly centered on narrow stock

How so? There is a part in the set called "trim stop" that is specifically designed for that. It works vey well.

 

[ChuckM]

I really like the center alignment ability for this.  The domino isn't awesome when you want the mortise perfectly centered on narrow stock

How so? There is a part in the set called "trim stop" that is specifically designed for that. It works vey well.

The Domino joiner is such a versatile machine that its limit is not set by the machine, but by the ingenuity of the operator. Centered mortises on a stock's width, length or thickness can all be done as long as the user knows the trick or has the right accessories/fixtures. For example, this fixture (image) shared by someone in this forum somewhere improves the precision/repeatability of the Domino machine. To say that a (any) loose tenon jig is better than the Domino machine might suggest an insufficient understanding of the Domino machine or a lack of in-depth use of the machine or both.

 

[Cheese]

One thing I noticed about the tenon stock is that the rounded contours are not grooved to provide pressure release for the glue in the mortise, unlike Festool stock. 

Seems that [member=44099]Cheese[/member] and I had a similar thought...  (Great minds running in parallel...)

Hey [member=7493]Sparktrician[/member] just ran across this tonight...it's more like great minds running amok.  [poke]  Now I'm not necessarily talking about your great mind...but I am certainly talking about my great mind.  [smile]

 

[Sparktrician]

One thing I noticed about the tenon stock is that the rounded contours are not grooved to provide pressure release for the glue in the mortise, unlike Festool stock. 

Seems that [member=44099]Cheese[/member] and I had a similar thought...  (Great minds running in parallel...)

Hey [member=7493]Sparktrician[/member] just ran across this tonight...it's more like great minds running amok.  [poke]  Now I'm not necessarily talking about your great mind...but I am certainly talking about my great mind.  [smile]

What is it they say, "birds of a feather..."?  Then again, it wouldn't be the first time I've been accused of going off the res...  [big grin]

 

[FestitaMakool]

I really like the center alignment ability for this.  The domino isn't awesome when you want the mortise perfectly centered on narrow stock

How so? There is a part in the set called "trim stop" that is specifically designed for that. It works vey well.

The Domino joiner is such a versatile machine that its limit is not set by the machine, but by the ingenuity of the operator. Centered mortises on a stock's width, length or thickness can all be done as long as the user knows the trick or has the right accessories/fixtures. For example, this fixture (image) shared by someone in this forum somewhere improves the precision/repeatability of the Domino machine. To say that a (any) loose tenon jig is better than the Domino machine might suggest an insufficient understanding of the Domino machine or a lack of in-depth use of the machine or both.

I think that’s [member=71921]Ola C[/member] in here.
Here’s a link to a thread:https://www.festoolownersgroup.com/...no-jig-for-smaller-parts/msg596062/#msg596062

Link to video:=share

 

[Charles Rydel]

Have a look  :
https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/1005...e759765-da8e-482d-b8d6-8e25b6998af7&_t=gps-idcDetailBottomMoreOtherSeller,scm-url:1007.13338.177756.0,pvid:4e759765-da8e-482d-b8d6-8e25b6998af7,tpp_buckets:668%232846%238109%231935&&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sceneId%22:%2223416%22,%22sku_id%22:%2212000026462373122%22%7D&compareFields=formatted_price:%E2%82%AC%2030,39;itemId:1005003604367428;freight_formatted_price:null;source:recommend-ump-FR;is_freeshipping:null;trade_order:4

Proudly make in america ! The ratio is more than twenty...

 

[ChuckM]

They come to about $35US after shipping and are said to be made of steel and aluminum, unlike the other WP knock-off that is PLASTIC. The Morty knock-offs must be made in China, and if WP has patented its tenon jig, the patent infringement is something everyone can see.

Surprisingly some sellers seem to have had good feedback standing too.

Needless to say, you shop at your own risk when things are too good to be true.

 

[AlexThePalex]

For $31 it is "Proudly pirated in China", right?

 

[Crazyraceguy]

The quote "Proudly make in America" tells me immediately that it is not.