Woodpeckers New One Time Tool - MFS clone

[ben_r_]

Looks like they added a new kit to the line up that includes the 18" and 32" rails instead of all 18": LINK

 

[Bob D.]

Looks like they added a new kit to the line up that includes the 18" and 32" rails instead of all 18": LINK

Yeah, I just contacted them to change my order to the kit with the 18 & 32" rails in place of the four 18" rails.
$40 more but worth it to me.

 

[whitesys]

The longer tracks will not have the machined slots, but can still be attached to the tracks from the kit.

How would you attach the plain SuperTrack to the kit without the slots?

 

[Cheese]

How would you attach the plain SuperTrack to the kit without the slots?

My thought is that you’d have to attach the existing 18” or 32” tracks to a Super track using a rail connector similar to the one used for connecting Festool rails. If so, that’s certainly not a very elegant solution.  [sad]

That would also explain why the longer tracks are not laser marked. They don’t know if you’re adding the Super track to an 18” or 32” section.

I’d really rather see the longer Super tracks laser marked and have slots milled in them to mirror the clean design of the 18” & 32” tracks. I would doubt that’d be more than a $10 upcharge per track.

 

[whitesys]

I’d really rather see the longer Super tracks laser marked and have slots milled in them to mirror the clean design of the 18” & 32” tracks. I would doubt that’d be more than a $10 upcharge per track.

Longer extrusions with slots would interest me.
I could live with or without the laser scales.

 

[HarveyWildes]

I’d really rather see the longer Super tracks laser marked and have slots milled in them to mirror the clean design of the 18” & 32” tracks. I would doubt that’d be more than a $10 upcharge per track.

Don't the 80/20 folks have reasonable upcharges for milling connector holes in the ends of their extrusions?  I'm thinking someone has figured this one out.

 

[Cheese]

Don't the 80/20 folks have reasonable upcharges for milling connector holes in the ends of their extrusions?  I'm thinking someone has figured this one out.

Yes 80/20 does...I mentioned in another thread that I own a Woodpeckers 50" rule that is laser engraved, my question was, then why can't a 48" Super track also be laser engraved? If the laser can do 50", it should certainly be able to do 48". 

Where I'm going with this is large pieces of capital equipment, be it a CNC, laser or automated plasma cutter, the only way you get your monetary payback is to place it in service and use it 24/7. A piece of capital equipment sitting idle is actually costing you money.

 

[Michael Kellough]

8020 offers milling services but they don't saw extrusions square (their spec is +/- 1*) so you'd have to buy milling for the whole end as well.

I think cutting clearance holes for the washer and screw is trivial. Getting the end square enough to be useful, especially over a longer length, is a demanding task.

 

[Svar]

I’d really rather see the longer Super tracks laser marked and have slots milled in them to mirror the clean design of the 18” & 32” tracks. I would doubt that’d be more than a $10 upcharge per track.

Longer extrusions with slots would interest me.
I could live with or without the laser scales.

I can mill slots with a hand router and a plywood jig in a matter of minutes, but I cant engrave scale on the extrusion. That requires some serious equipment.

 

[greg mann]

Don't the 80/20 folks have reasonable upcharges for milling connector holes in the ends of their extrusions?  I'm thinking someone has figured this one out.

Yes 80/20 does...I mentioned in another thread that I own a Woodpeckers 50" rule that is laser engraved, my question was, then why can't a 48" Super track also be laser engraved? If the laser can do 50", it should certainly be able to do 48". 

Where I'm going with this is large pieces of capital equipment, be it a CNC, laser or automated plasma cutter, the only way you get your monetary payback is to place it in service and use it 24/7. A piece of capital equipment sitting idle is actually costing you money.

It would seem they could do a 48 inch length on that machine. The question is why Woodpeckers is not recognizing a sustainable market for this product. One could argue it might be more user friendly than the MFS and has the potential for added componentry, like for countertop joining or special radius inserts for the corners to make custom cut-outs.

 

[Cheese]

It would seem they could do a 48 inch length on that machine. The question is why Woodpeckers is not recognizing a sustainable market for this product. One could argue it might be more user friendly than the MFS and has the potential for added componentry, like for countertop joining or special radius inserts for the corners to make custom cut-outs.

I agree 100%. This seems like an opportunity that Woodpeckers doesn’t fully grasp. This should be a new product that will be available on a continuous basis. If that were the case, additions and tweaks could be implemented on an ongoing basis that will further solidify its demand over the years as opposed to over just the next few months.  Once it’s released, it’s pretty much forgotten because it’s no longer available.

 

[Brice Burrell]

You guys are probably overestimating the demand.  Festool stopped selling the MFS for a reason, because the demand wasn't there.  Don't get me wrong I don't like the limited availability of products, however, this OTT model seems to be working for Woodpeckers. 

 

[Svar]

Festool stopped selling the MFS for a reason ...

"Reason" is not the term I woul use describing Festool marketing strategies.

 

[ScoFF]

I'm wondering what size area the 32"x32" track would give you for inside routability. Not sure if the width or the tracks and accounting for the bushing.
Anyone with the MFS700 know?  I do a lot of cutting boards with juice catchers and want to know it's limits for cutting board sizes.

 

[Cheese]

I'm wondering what size area the 32"x32" track would give you for inside routability. Not sure if the width or the tracks and accounting for the bushing.
Anyone with the MFS700 know?  I do a lot of cutting boards with juice catchers and want to know it's limits for cutting board sizes.

The current ad copy for Woodpeckers reads, "The standard 18" long sides allow about 13" of router cutting".
https://www.woodpeck.com/variable-router-jig.html

 

[ben_r_]

I'm wondering what size area the 32"x32" track would give you for inside routability. Not sure if the width or the tracks and accounting for the bushing.
Anyone with the MFS700 know?  I do a lot of cutting boards with juice catchers and want to know it's limits for cutting board sizes.

The current ad copy for Woodpeckers reads, "The standard 18" long sides allow about 13" of router cutting".

https://www.woodpeck.com/variable-router-jig.html

Since the 18" and 32" track "appear" to be the same width, it might be safe to say they are roughly 5" and therefore the 32" rails would allow about 27" of router cutting.

 

[ben_r_]

I think you mean 27" for the 32" track. You only need to take off 5" from whatever track length to know it's approximate max cutting allowance.

I'm wondering what size area the 32"x32" track would give you for inside routability. Not sure if the width or the tracks and accounting for the bushing.
Anyone with the MFS700 know?  I do a lot of cutting boards with juice catchers and want to know it's limits for cutting board sizes.

The current ad copy for Woodpeckers reads, "The standard 18" long sides allow about 13" of router cutting".
https://www.woodpeck.com/variable-router-jig.html

Since the 18" and 32" track "appear" to be the same width, it might be safe to say they are roughly 5" and therefore the 32" rails would allow about 17" of router cutting.

Urgh, sorry, thanks for the catch. I just woke up. Fixed the post.

 

[Svar]

Since the 18" and 32" track "appear" to be the same width, it might be safe to say they are roughly 5"

They are the same 3.85" width.

 

[ben_r_]

Since the 18" and 32" track "appear" to be the same width, it might be safe to say they are roughly 5"

They are the same 3.85" width.

Huh, then perhaps the other 1.15" comes from the guide bushing?

 

[HAXIT]

The original one before festool was GEAT SYSTEM and was sold in U.S by woodworkersdepot.
Click on infomaterial then sdg English.
http://www.geatsystem.com/geatwd/dt.php