Woodpeckers New OneTIME Stainless Square (US)

[Shane Holland]

Available in 6" or 12" sizes, metric and imperial. Made in the USA.

Designed To Be Everything But Ordinary. While continuing the tradition of quality and accuracy that has made Woodpeckers precision squares the standard for woodworkers, the 641SS and 1281SS push what is possible in tool design. Equipped with a sleek, adjustable stainless steel blade, these multifunctional precision squares enable faster and more accurate measuring, marking, and scribing. They are simply some of the best squares we have ever made.

Deadline to order yours is Monday April 24, 2017.

Order Woodpeckers OneTIME Stainless Squares

 

[Gordon Bombay]

What's the advantage over the 1281?

 

[RustE]

What's the advantage over the 1281?

Stainless blade is thinner.  Also looks like the blade has holes laser-drilled to allow you to run parallel lines along the edge of the work piece.

 

[rmwarren]

Finally another OTT I will use.

[member=48572]Shane Holland[/member] - even though they offer a metric version there is zero info on it either on their website or in the video. I assume the notches are @ 1mm increments, but before ordering can you confirm this?

Thanks,

RMW

 

[Shane Holland]

[member=48572]Shane Holland[/member] - even though they offer a metric version there is zero info on it either on their website or in the video. I assume the notches are @ 1mm increments, but before ordering can you confirm this?

[member=8712]Richard/RMW[/member]

Yes, 1mm increments for the metric. It's kind of buried in the description text.

"Perhaps the most eye-catching design feature is the laser cut notches that run along the length of the blade in 1mm increments."

 

[rmwarren]

[member=48572]Shane Holland[/member] - even though they offer a metric version there is zero info on it either on their website or in the video. I assume the notches are @ 1mm increments, but before ordering can you confirm this?

[member=8712]Richard/RMW[/member]

Yes, 1mm increments for the metric. It's kind of buried in the description text.

"Perhaps the most eye-catching design feature is the laser cut notches that run along the length of the blade in 1mm increments."

Thanks Shane - should follow my advice to the boss and "read all the words"...  [embarassed]

RMW

PS - took you 3 minutes to respond, kinda off your game today huh?

 

[Shane Holland]

Thanks Shane - should follow my advice to the boss and "read all the words"...  [embarassed]

Ha, yes. I have turned into quite the "skimmer" instead of reader over the years. So, I am also guilty of missing some important details sometimes.

 

[rljatl]

The adjustment feature to return the square to square is a slick new feature.

 

[mikeyr]

I agree with the post above, that "feature" turned me off this square instantly when I read that.  Yeah, you can send them back but who would ever do that for a square.  I will keep my 1281 thank you.

 

[cblanton42]

    I also think you buy a square to be square, period!! no adjustment wanted by me so I'll pass!!

 

[rljatl]

I've got news for you.  The 1281 style squares get out of square all the time.

 

[Cheese]

Maybe it's just me but this adjustable square thing is kind of wonky. So the average Joe will have to purchase a $120 Starrett square to make sure their $160 Woodpeckers is within spec?

I've had 2 Starrett 12" adjustable squares for the last 40 years. If one needs to be shorter I throw in the 8" blade, need it longer...throw in the 18" or 24" blade. Both have been checked against granite cylinders. Within .0005" squareness after 40 years of use.

Woodpecker framing squares, now that I get, these things...not so much.  [sad]  [sad]

 

[Shane Holland]

I've got news for you.  The 1281 style squares get out of square all the time.

Woodpeckers states the following...

"Our Guarantee. We're so confident in the accuracy of the 1281 Square we offer it with a Lifetime Guarantee to stay square to within one-thousandth inch or we'll repair or replace it upon return and inspection by us."

 

[RustE]

I missed the "adjustment feature" earlier today.  Now you guys have me reconsidering if this is the right gadget for me.

One can use a $10 drafting triangle to check these types of tools.  The drafting triangle would only be used for a check and not subjected to shop wear.

 

[clark_fork]

I don't have both toes in the metric pool and $10.00 is $10.00, the saving if you buy both models. So is there a mix and match option?  One 12 inch and one 150 mm?

The 150 mm seems just the ticket for working with Domino depths and track saw blade heights.

I recently had to mill a set of boards for a table top. The stock had very rough edges with some deep raggedy indentations over the board length.  The scribing feature on the 12 inch appeals for finding the width of boards needing extensive side trimming on my table saw which is set to inches.

Isn't the adjustment feature accomplished by drawing a line and then flipping the square? Seems simple enough without going to a second square device.

I like the larger more workable scribing holes. The Incra rule is just too hard to locate the right hole.  Plus, I am not that comfortable with a mechanical pencil these days. Of course I grew up using flat carpenter's pencils that needed a whittled point. These mechanical pencils seem so girly man.

 

[rljatl]

I've got news for you.  The 1281 style squares get out of square all the time.

Woodpeckers states the following...

"Our Guarantee. We're so confident in the accuracy of the 1281 Square we offer it with a Lifetime Guarantee to stay square to within one-thousandth inch or we'll repair or replace it upon return and inspection by us."

Yep, same guarantee for both 1281 and 1281SS....

- Out of square 1281 => send back to Woodpeckers for re-calibration.

- Out of square 1281SS => re-calibrate it yourself in about 5 minutes or you can always send this one back to Woodpeckers for re-calibration, too.

The larger, easier to see marking holes make the 1281SS worth it to me.  I agree with Clark regarding the Incra Rule holes.  Way too difficult to find the hole that corresponds to the measurement you want and the holes are prone to breaking pencil lead.

 

[rljatl]

You can use any method you want to check a square.  That part is irrelevant.  Most people do not have expensive test equipment.  Even a calibrated Starrett engineers square can get out of square.  The drawing a line and flipping is a method anyone can use. 

Same guarantee for both 1281 squares, remember?

 

[Cheese]

Ya, this is an interesting discussion...just received my metric 6SS square from Woodpeckers today and noticed that there was a different height level between the stainless blade captured in the middle and the 2 red aluminum stabilizers that are placed along each side of the blade. 
That made me grab my 12" Starrett and take a look-see, sure enough, a bunch of light shining through. I'm guessing maybe .008-.015". I'll take some pictures tomorrow along with some measurements.

If it's adjustable...it's moveable.   

 

[rljatl]

If it is made of multiple pieces, it is adjustable!  Even the standard 1281 square is movable and adjustable.  This is why I prefer the one or two piece triangles instead of the three piece "L" shaped squares.

[member=44099]Cheese[/member] How do you know your 12" Starrett is square?

 

[Cheese]

No the Starrett is not adjustable. It's only considered adjustable because you can exchange different length rules and you can also add additional attachments. Once locked-up however, it is what it is...it's either on or off. If it's on (like they have been for the last 100 years), you're golden, if it's off, you just chuck it in the trash. Thank God they're the former rather than the later.  [big grin]