Woodpeckers OneTIME 6SS Carpenters Square

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Order deadline is Monday, 11/27. Expected delivery in April 2017.

Thousands of woodworkers have adopted the carpenters square for use in the shop. These squares make extremely quick work of drawing 90° and 45° angles and are good for other layout chores. But what commonly available squares deliver in speed is compromised by their inaccuracy. The scale markings are crudely stamped and the their thick blades make it difficult to transfer precise pencil lines to your work.

Now, with Woodpeckers Model 6SS Carpenters Square, woodworkers can get speed with the precision required for furniture and cabinetmaking. The fixed 90° and 45° angles are accurate to within .0085° or better. The square’s stout construction, including a stainless steel blade, means it will last a lifetime and never loose tolerance. The tool’s aluminum handles are registered on the base of the square with precision-milled, tight-tolerance steel pins, then fastened with stainless steel socket head screws.

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It's too bad these prices aren't negotiable, because there's A price I'd be willing to pay for this.  [wink]
 
Yeah a Swanson speed square does mostly the same. Still I ordered one already.

And now that others sell them for Woodpeckers I am not quite sure how they make money as retail pays something like  3to5 times less, which I know for a fact can't be true  in the case of these One Time tools.

So what, Tool Time or whoever makes 5 or 10.00? Woodpecker makes 25.00? These One Time tools are in  the Festool wheelhouse pricing wise. Ever buy a Festool pigtail, 40.00 each!

Being in business, knowing what annodizing and metal working cost, plus just the overhead of my home shop heating bill all alone, unless I had an order for 2000 maybe even 5000 of them, I wouldn't even deal with it.
 
There is something very special about "woodpecker"  gear.maybe its the 'exclusive" sales thing, where its all limited and you feel  "special " when you make it on a list !

But if they could dip the prices and sort out a UK dealer, These things would roll easily  here .Before someone in China picks up on it and does 99.9 % of the quality for a 1/4 of the price .And thats seriously possible !
 
This is a real nice square though, a real pleasure to use. I keep it tucked underneath the Kapex on a permanent basis, pretty handy.
 

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That square looks like a weapon you use instead of brass knuckles [eek] [scared]
 
There are parts I don't like about the square.  The base doesn't extend to the ends of the base of the rectangle.  Transferring lines down on the edges shouldn't require a different tool.  The thinner triangle is great, but if someone wanted to really hit a home run then they would continue the lines from the dimensions and also the angles down those thin edges.

Just my opinion and in all disclosure I am not a fan of the repeating one time tool promotions so perhaps my opinions should be automatically discounted.

Peter
 
I have to disagree about the base going all the way to the edge. It could be because my eyes are crap or  the way I work. I had a Rosewood handle on a square once an actually notched the edge just like this to make it shorter so I could see and mark lines better. And I like how thin this is, I have a few thicker ones and they are nice, but the thinner surface lets me mark the line on the material easier. As far as the lines going through, yeah not sure why the didn't do  that., I didn't think about it. Now that you mention it looks like an oversight. Maybe Ill email them and ask for a change, they have changed some stuff up before after comments. It actually kind of aggravating now.

Not liking their one time tool promotion is valid for sure, I dont love it, but I dont hate it either.

I  think they do it more becasue the tool cant be financially supported over the long term. Look at every one time tool they ever made and the cost. No way could they have all those sitting on shelves, it would never be possible.  I believe the owner thought this up after determining  that the tools he wanted to make and offer just wasn't financially doable in the traditional sense. Then the one time tool idea  was a by product of finding a way to offer these tools, not the initial idea. Hey I could  be wrong, just a thought.

I do the very same thing in my shop.I never make  inlays first, I show a design and get the orders and then make them. I can't have 30,000 worth stock on the shelve. Of course I get 100% of the money upfront something they dont do.
 
Well, I've actually ordered one .. sadly not through Toolnut as I'm in Oz.

This is in spite of my extreme anti OTT sentiment too !!

My habit has always been to flip the square to the vertical rather than drop a vertical line from the edge of the square, so Peter's observation wouldn't impact me, but I can certainly see the issue if that's your practice.

I've jumped at this one simply because I do like this format of tool, but getting an accurate one has been impossible. Obviously mine will be METRIC !! [wink] [big grin]
 
Not sure I see why they have to keep inventory of of these tools or quit offering them either. 

The design and machine programming is a one time cost. They have pretty much the same raw materials constantly in house and they only offer red anodizing so it's not like they're stocking anything but that either.  Their cutters and engraver don't really care whether they are cutting or marking speed squares or parallel guides or straight edges. Just in time manufacturing could easily and profitably deliver all the tools in their catalog if they wanted to.

I do understand from a pure sales perspective why a firm financial commitment and a three to four month lead time is attractive to a seller though.
 
Peter Halle said:
There are parts I don't like about the square.  The base doesn't extend to the ends of the base of the rectangle.  Transferring lines down on the edges shouldn't require a different tool. 

I'm not liking that detail either, nor can I think of what advantage is gained by how they chose to design it.
 
Kev said:
Well, I've actually ordered one .. sadly not through Toolnut as I'm in Oz.

This is in spite of my extreme anti OTT sentiment too !!

My habit has always been to flip the square to the vertical rather than drop a vertical line from the edge of the square, so Peter's observation wouldn't impact me, but I can certainly see the issue if that's your practice.

I've jumped at this one simply because I do like this format of tool, but getting an accurate one has been impossible. Obviously mine will be METRIC !! [wink] [big grin]

Kev, where do you order your woodpecker gear through to get to Aus?
 
Hmmm... maybe I dont know this or it's April and mine didnt get delivered yet.
[member=44099]Cheese[/member] , are you a woodpecker?  [huh]

Cheese said:
This is a real nice square though, a real pleasure to use. I keep it tucked underneath the Kapex on a permanent basis, pretty handy.
 
Picktool said:
Hmmm... maybe I dont know this or it's April and mine didnt get delivered yet.

Ya, well it's tough to have it delivered when your mailing address is 2 years out of date... [poke]
I think this rendition was circa 2014. It is a nice square though, and I have ordered another one, this time in metric.  A Swanson cast aluminum square it is not. This one is a pleasure to use.
 
I see no reason why these should not be about $35 max . As other posts have said. There is not a lot going on in the build of these etc . A good chinese engineering company or even a UK engineering set up . Could offer the same easily . Nice products that are OVER PRICED
 
Interesting that I already have a Woodpecker 6" carpenter square that, except for being all red, looks like the new offering. Mine is all aluminum and the new one is steel. Other than that, what's the difference?
 
Birdhunter said:
Interesting that I already have a Woodpecker 6" carpenter square that, except for being all red, looks like the new offering. Mine is all aluminum and the new one is steel. Other than that, what's the difference?

Basically the stainless allows the blade to be thinner. Putting the scale closer to the work. Which may or may not matter depending on the usage.

Seth
 
SRSemenza said:
Birdhunter said:
Interesting that I already have a Woodpecker 6" carpenter square that, except for being all red, looks like the new offering. Mine is all aluminum and the new one is steel. Other than that, what's the difference?

Basically the stainless allows the blade to be thinner. Putting the scale closer to the work. Which may or may not matter depending on the usage.

Seth

"Growing" into stainless steel measuring/marking tools is certainly a forward step.

EDIT> fixed quote box
 
Didn't see that they had one in '14. Haven't looked at the older OTT's lately.
Thanx

Cheese said:
Picktool said:
Hmmm... maybe I dont know this or it's April and mine didnt get delivered yet.

Ya, well it's tough to have it delivered when your mailing address is 2 years out of date... [poke]
I think this rendition was circa 2014. It is a nice square though, and I have ordered another one, this time in metric.  A Swanson cast aluminum square it is not. This one is a pleasure to use.
 
Really unsure why I wouldn't pay the same amount for a Starret 6" or 150mm combo square with forged head and satin rule instead.
 
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