A LR32 video. The last video of the series. Video 7

[erock]

Eric,
Thanks for taking the time to put together these videos!  I've reviewed them once as an introduction which was enough to push me into ordering a 1400 and LR32 kit.  I'm going back through them a second and third time as I try to formulate a plan and design.  If all goes well I'll have new custom cabinets in the basement and garage.  Hopefully eventually the master bedroom closet will get something as well.  If all doesn't go well, I might need to build a fireplace, but that may need to happen either way, depending on how many cabinets I have to built before I understand the nuances.    Thanks again!

RKA  You only watched them 3 times?  [tongue]

  So if you're gonna build a fireplace, does that mean your a better brick layer then a woodworker?  [tongue]  [poke]

Have fun with the OF1400 router and LR32 system.  And if you can, post pics of what you build!  I love see what guys make, even if it's a simple cabinet.

Now lock yourself in your house and watch the videos all weekend.  Just make sure you have plenty of pizza, beer and chips before you lock the doors!

Eric

 

[rnt80]

Eric, sittin on my butt after surgery and finally got a chance to watch your videos.  Not only is the content excellent but your manner of explaining the material is superb.  Nice job.

 

[erock]

Eric, sittin on my butt after surgery and finally got a chance to watch your videos.  Not only is the content excellent but your manner of explaining the material is superb.  Nice job.

Russell, 

  Thanks for the kind words.  Hope you have a speedy recovery.  What kind of surgery are you talking about?  If you're sitting on you butt, I'm guessing it's not the old snip snip down below.  [crying]    Unless you're sitting on a bag of ice  [eek]

Eric

 

[rnt80]

I had my right hip replaced.  At the ripe young age of...almost 38...I have two artificial hips.  I had my left hip resurfaced six years ago and my right hip replaced on Monday.  Pretty humbling to say the least.  I meant to ask, do you ever actually use your tools?!?  They all look, including your hoses, like they're in top shape.

 

[erock]

I had my right hip replaced.  At the ripe young age of...almost 38...I have two artificial hips.  I had my left hip resurfaced six years ago and my right hip replaced on Monday.  Pretty humbling to say the least.  I meant to ask, do you ever actually use your tools?!?  They all look, including your hoses, like they're in top shape.

Hip replacement at 38  [eek]  [scared]  How long do you have to lay around the house catching up on reruns of  sex in the city and  friends episodes?
Although I did come across some old episodes of New Yankee workshop on Youtube a couple days ago.  It's always fun watching Norm even with the old tools he uses. 

Dare I ask how you came about needing new hips? 

As for using my tools.  Yes, I use them.  I'm only a hobbyist so I don't get too use them as much as I would like.  Plus, I try to keep them clean.  I'm a bit of a neat freak and I hate having dust on things.  So Festool is a perfect fit for my mild case of OCD.  [embarassed]
The hose you can see i the video is a fairly newer hose.  It's been hanging from my ceiling since I got it so it doesn't see much ground contact.
The original hose that came with the CT Midi is a little beat up, which is why I wanted a longer hose so I could get it off the ground.

Get some rest buddy.  I hope you have a speedy recovery and the new hips improve your golf game.  [wink]

Eric

 

[cliffp]

Eric, thanks for your reply about inset doors. The design I was going to copy:

http://www.johnlewis.com/john-lewis-henry-3-door-3-drawer-sideboard/p231432427?kpid=231432427&s_kenid=65821c18-bdbf-9509-9b85-00000b9bb58b&s_kwcid=ppc_pla&tmad=c&tmcampid=73

wouldn't work (unless I am missing something) so I might have a go and just be careful.

Thanks to your videos, I am going to buy the LR32 set. I hope Festool will give you some other tools to review!

 

[erock]

Cliff,

  They want 800 for that piece  [scared]

When you zoom in on the pic you can see the gaps are not even and the right door is not cut square.  The right drawer gap is different then the rest.

I can see why you want to make your own.  I'm sure the one you build will have much better results.

Good luck with your build. Have fun and please share the experience with post and pics!

Eric

 

[Sparktrician]

Cliff,

  They want 800 for that piece  [scared]

When you zoom in on the pic you can see the gaps are not even and the right door is not cut square.  The right drawer gap is different then the rest.

I can see why you want to make your own.  I'm sure the one you build will have much better results.

Good luck with your build. Have fun and please share the experience with post and pics!

Eric

Eric, that 799 is Pounds Sterling - or $1221.35 in US Bucks.  [jawdrop]  For that kind of money, the gaps should be consistent and the drawer fronts and door panels bookmatched. 

 

[otis04]

This thread reminds me, thanks for the LR 32 series of videos, they were excellent and I made my first set of upper cabinets for my garage.

Thanks again,

Chris

 

[RKA]

RKA  You only watched them 3 times?  [tongue]

   So if you're gonna build a fireplace, does that mean your a better brick layer then a woodworker?   [tongue]   [poke]

Have fun with the OF1400 router and LR32 system.  And if you can, post pics of what you build!  I love see what guys make, even if it's a simple cabinet.

Now lock yourself in your house and watch the videos all weekend.  Just make sure you have plenty of pizza, beer and chips before you lock the doors!

Eric

That reminds me, I think you are obligated to produce a brick laying video...please let me know when it's done!

Quick question, if I'm building two wall mounted cabinets that will sit adjacent to one another and both have full overlay doors, how much gap should I leave between the edge of the cabinet side and the edge of the door?  Do the hinges require a certain amount of clearance behind the door panel or am I just ensuring the same gap uniformity between all door and drawer panels?

 

[Sparktrician]

Quick question, if I'm building two wall mounted cabinets that will sit adjacent to one another and both have full overlay doors, how much gap should I leave between the edge of the cabinet side and the edge of the door?  Do the hinges require a certain amount of clearance behind the door panel or am I just ensuring the same gap uniformity between all door and drawer panels?

The most common standard is a 1.5mm reveal on each side of the door/drawer front which compensates for potential interference between doors and drawer faces, not to mention eliminating the need for a 3-4° bevel on the non-hinged door edge.  The hinges are designed to pull the door backs against the cabinet sides when the doors are closed.   

 

[RKA]

Perfect, thanks!

 

[FOGNewbie]

First Thanks Eric for the great videos! I am hoping to build by following the video soon.

Second, Does anyone know if they pulled the LR 32 calibration video on YouTube? I know that Steve Bace made one, but it looks like it was taken down.

 

[sakurama]

First of all Eric, thanks for the videos, they were very helpful and explained a lot. I got the LR32 to build my cabinets and wanted to warm up with my garage cabinets first and then move onto my kitchen in a few weeks.

A couple of questions. As I do more and more research on this it becomes more confusing as the 32mm "standard" seems to have a few interpretations. I've found True32 and KISS II and others and they all seem to have a slightly different take on reveals and such. Is there one that is most aligned with the LR32? Since I'm using that I'd like to find the best system to use that works with that.

When you're using the rail on cabinet parts the end stops both touch the panel - but for doors there's the reveal of 3mm (or 6mm depending on what system) so how do you account for that? I'm a little confused since the panel will be smaller but using the end stop would seem to indicate from a "true" edge and not the smaller size.

Anyway, if you or anyone could elaborate and perhaps point me to a source of more info that would be helpful. The charts from the KISS system are nice as they give the 32mm divisions with equivalent standard sizes so I can get my head around it. I'm sure once I start cutting and making the first cabinet it would all make sense but it's that first step that is intimidating.

Lastly, I'd like to add my vote to a video where you build an entire cabinet. It would be nice to see the process with all Festool. Especially the drawers.

Gregor

 

[Sparktrician]

When you're using the rail on cabinet parts the end stops both touch the panel - but for doors there's the reveal of 3mm (or 6mm depending on what system) so how do you account for that? I'm a little confused since the panel will be smaller but using the end stop would seem to indicate from a "true" edge and not the smaller size.

I made some 1.5mm-thick shims from UHMW plastic specifically for use when working with doors that are cut 3mm shorter than the cabinet length.  I use one as a spacer at each end of the door when working with the LR 32 to bore hinge cup holes. 

 

[erock]

Okay guys,

I have received more request then I would expect for a complete build.  I guess I want to gauge the level of interest for the  videos.

I'm willing to make more videos but I don't want to repeat material that is already available.

I would be more then happy to build a base kitchen cabinet and record my process.  The Festools that would be used would consist of the following.

TS55 saw, P-guides, OF1400 router, MFK700 router, MFT/3, Baby domino (DF500), CXS drill, C15 drill, maybe a sander or 3, LR32 system, Kapex and

one or two Festool tools I may be forgetting.

Honestly, I don't know what you guys want to see that is not already available.  So I would want to try to focus on something that may not be

available on video, or maybe something that is not clear to maybe help you better understand. 

I personally have no use for a base cabinet.  But I'm willing  to produce some  videos of a full build if it helps guys out.

I'm sure  the pros have no use for my  videos, so this would probably be  more for the hobbyist like myself.  But if a pro cabinet maker could give

some direction of what I should try to cover, that would be great!

So if you want to PM me or respond to this post and try to fill me in on what you want to see then maybe I can work something out.

Just please remember that I work at lease 50 hours a week and it would take some time between videos to produce a series of videos.

So let the ideas flow.......lets see if we can come up with some good video content.

Eric

 

[farms100]

you cover the 32mm basics pretty well.

I don't need to see a plywood carcase being built, but others are at a different places than I am. 

things that have always overwhelmed me at times are hardware options. slides, hinges etc. Not so much what brand, but why choose a particular hinge opening over another (95, 110, 130 degrees ) when to add a third hinge etc
reveals,
full overlay, half overlay, etc
balanced vs unbalanced panels
2 door cabinets (sinks)

 

[erock]

you cover the 32mm basics pretty well.

I don't need to see a plywood carcase being built, but others are at a different places than I am. 

things that have always overwhelmed me at times are hardware options. slides, hinges etc. Not so much what brand, but why choose a particular hinge opening over another (95, 110, 130 degrees ) when to add a third hinge etc
reveals,
full overlay, half overlay, etc
balanced vs unbalanced panels
2 door cabinets (sinks)

See this is what I don't want to repeat IF I don't have to. But willing to if it helps guys out.    Maybe I take building a carcase as an easy task.  But, the next guy may be confused as to how to start with the carcase using the Festool system. And I want to focus on the Festool system for building a base cabinet. 

Because their are many ways to build a cabinet carcase.  I would be showing my preferred  method  which may  conflict with the next guys method. 

Now for the hinges and slides....this gets my thought process going.    I could buy a couple different degree of hinges and show how it changes the
openings and how they function.  I have a couple different style of drawer slides that I could talk about and use in a video. 

Plus my preferred reveal may differ from the next guys as well.    Cabinet building is such a vast topic it would be darn near impossible to cover all bases.

But, as a community I feel we can come up with something........

Eric

The video I have in mind would be a base cabinet with one drawer and one door.  The drawer would be what is known as a "domi-drawer". 
Using a thru domino as the joinery method.
 

 

[JoggleStick]

Eric, if I may suggest...

Just go ahead and do your thing... Whatever that may be.... You won't please everyone and frankly you shouldn't try to...

Let me give you a different slant and see if this makes sense...

I pay a kings ransom to be a 'member' of a high end business marketing group...

Now, even though I attend in person, I also buy the recordings and replay them from time to time. I may have heard the same recording maybe 5-6 times over a few years... Yet, I can guarantee you I get something 'new' each time I listen to the recording...
The information is the same... The thing that changes is me... I'm in a different place and so 'the penny drops' or the 'lightbulb' goes off... And something else makes sense... That's just how it is...

Same as your vids and people watching them... The audience is always going to be in their own place and time...

Don't give a hoot whether what you're doing has been done before-or not- that's not a concern whatsoever. Making sure your 'story' is complete and congruent is far more important. I like watching tradesmen do what I do... Not to pick fault, but it's surprising the little tips and tricks you pick up...

Don't 'over think it'.... Just do it and enjoy....

Enjoy...

PS. You've already seen how very experienced Tradesman have watched and enjoyed your vids... The positive comments are real... More than a few times someone has said how watching you do something has made the LR32 system seem far less daunting... Just because we own the good gear doesn't always mean we know how best to 'use' the good gear... I say, "Just Do It!"

 

[Jeff Zanin]

Your videos are excellent quality and content and I would love to see a complete build as described. 

Anything you could add regarding hardware choices would be a bonus.

As previously mentioned you can't cover everything or please everyone but please don't let that hold you back.  I suspect that even people who have been using these tools to build things for a while are learning things from your videos.

Jeff