A New Rail Square Coming to Market - Teaser for Future Review

[Tinker]

It looks like you guys at TSO are not only on the ball with some great ideas, but you continue to communicate.  You should be around for a long time.  [thumbs up] [thumbs up] [thumbs up]
Tinker

 

[Alan m]

I only got to play with this yesterday and today.

it is great. I wish I had it years ago. I cut up 10 sheets into 12" strips and every cut was perfect.

the only additions I would add it to include the washer and nut
I would mark a scale along the edge for rouger cuts. the job I was doing didn't require 100% accuracy . a few mm less was ok . the scale would allow you to just drop and cut .

 

[Klemm]

Is there video of the parallel guide in use?

Not sure whose Parallel Guide you are seeking info on. commercial, home made? can you be more specific? brand?
Hans

 

[Klemm]

I only got to play with this yesterday and today.

it is great. I wish I had it years ago. I cut up 10 sheets into 12" strips and every cut was perfect.

the only additions I would add it to include the washer and nut
I would mark a scale along the edge for rougher cuts. the job I was doing didn't require 100% accuracy . a few mm less was ok . the scale would allow you to just drop and cut .

Alan,
if you need a 10-32 Screw and can't obtain one, let us know and we'll send you one no charge. We will consider including and a washer if and when it appears that there is sufficient demand to warrant the added cost. We thought there might be a demand but your comment is the first one we can recall to suggest making it a part our standard product. We'll keep an ear out for more requests and maintain an open mind.

The scale idea: could you send a sketch or marked up picture that would help us understand how that would work?
Hans

 

[DrD]

Hans, in my case it would be the Festool Parallel Guide.  A video would be nice.

Thanks,

DrD

 

[Klemm]

DrD,  Have you searched on YouTube? - I see seven YouTube listings under FESTOOL  parallel Guide. This topic probably should be dealt with on another thread to be more helpful to you.
Hans

 

[DrD]

Good Morning Hans,

Appreciate your reference to You Tube; using search engines available to me, I find well over 10 pages of You Tube videos regarding the use of Festool Parallel Guides.  However, none of them address the combined use of your product with the Festool product.  My inquiry was just for assisting me in justifying the expense of your tool, that's all.  To date I've been quite happy with my Qwas Square and a single Parallel Guide attached to the opposite end of the rail.  I do verify square with a variety of tools at my disposal:  Qwas Dogs, Anderson Square, various Woodpecker precision squares.  Thus, I guess I'm well equipped with what I already have.

I do wish you good success in this and all aspects of your business.

DrD

 

[Michael Kellough]

Good Morning Hans,

Appreciate your reference to You Tube; using search engines available to me, I find well over 10 pages of You Tube videos regarding the use of Festool Parallel Guides.  However, none of them address the combined use of your product with the Festool product.  My inquiry was just for assisting me in justifying the expense of your tool, that's all.  To date I've been quite happy with my Qwas Square and a single Parallel Guide attached to the opposite end of the rail.  I do verify square with a variety of tools at my disposal:  Qwas Dogs, Anderson Square, various Woodpecker precision squares.  Thus, I guess I'm well equipped with what I already have.

I do wish you good success in this and all aspects of your business.

DrD

If you can leave the QWAS Square attached to a guide rail you're all set, no reason to buy another rail square.

While the GRS-16 is an excellent product the primary functional difference between the two squares is that the TSO product can be quickly installed/removed and it is instantly square. No other reference tools required.

That is a HUGE benefit for many people but if you don't need to remove your QWAS Square....

 

[Klemm]

Good Morning Hans,

Appreciate your reference to You Tube; using search engines available to me, I find well over 10 pages of You Tube videos regarding the use of Festool Parallel Guides.  However, none of them address the combined use of your product with the Festool product.  My inquiry was just for assisting me in justifying the expense of your tool, that's all.  To date I've been quite happy with my Qwas Square and a single Parallel Guide attached to the opposite end of the rail.  I do verify square with a variety of tools at my disposal:  Qwas Dogs, Anderson Square, various Woodpecker precision squares.  Thus, I guess I'm well equipped with what I already have.

I do wish you good success in this and all aspects of your business.

DrD

DrD - pardon me - I mistook your inquiry to refer to the "Parallel Guide" made by Festool and others. You can find videos describing our Guide Rail Square Parallel Edge GRS-16 PE on our website:https://tsoproducts.com/tools-equipment/grs-16-pe-parallel-edge-guide-rail-square/
These abbreviated videos just went up on our site yesterday.
I might mention that my personal dissatisfaction with our own QWAS Square led me to develop the GRS-16 series of tools. An easy way to decide if it does something for you is to buy, try it and return it if it's not enough of an improvement for you.  [unsure]
Hans

 

[Alan m]

I only got to play with this yesterday and today.

it is great. I wish I had it years ago. I cut up 10 sheets into 12" strips and every cut was perfect.

the only additions I would add it to include the washer and nut
I would mark a scale along the edge for rougher cuts. the job I was doing didn't require 100% accuracy . a few mm less was ok . the scale would allow you to just drop and cut .

Alan,
if you need a 10-32 Screw and can't obtain one, let us know and we'll send you one no charge. We will consider including and a washer if and when it appears that there is sufficient demand to warrant the added cost. We thought there might be a demand but your comment is the first one we can recall to suggest making it a part our standard product. We'll keep an ear out for more requests and maintain an open mind.

The scale idea: could you send a sketch or marked up picture that would help us understand how that would work?
Hans

I thought the bolt could be included so that I could use the washer if needed. I hate having to go looking for these things. these little jobs never get done. I have been meaning to do the same thing to my parallel guides for years and still haven't done it

there isn't relly a need to have the washer , when I used it, it didn't tip once

 

[Alan m]

I wanted a scale on the edge that goes against the work piece.
if you are cutting off the edge you can use the edge to set the distance

 

[Klemm]

Alan
if I understand you correctly you would have a scale showing approxiamtely 200+ millimeters to the left of the guide rail. Any reading from this scale would have to relate to one or the other edge of the guide rail. The left side would pose quite a parallax problem while the cut side as a reference would introduce the variable of the splinterguard "0" location. After all that, the scale would be useful only for dimensions ranging between 160mm and 400 mm.
I'm probably still not understanding you correctly. Perhaps a practical example illustrating your point would let me figure it out.
Hans

 

[Alan m]

I think you have the idea.
im not sure where you see parallax.
it would only be good for rougher cuts where the exact dimension wouldn't need to be 100%

you could also make the scale movable so you could dial in the accuracy

 

[builderbob]

I think you have the idea.
im not sure where you see parallax.
it would only be good for rougher cuts where the exact dimension wouldn't need to be 100%

you could also make the scale movable so you could dial in the accuracy

I think some Right - Left adhesive measuring tape from Kreg or Starrett would work great. Or painters tape and a pencil or sharpie. Since these are rougher cut markings anyway, something like this would work!

 

[Alan m]

come on now bob. surely your not suggesting using cheap tape instead of investing hundreds in a new tool.

I was thinking about sticking a scale on the rail. it would really help for rougher cuts

 

[Klemm]

Alan, we'll keep an ear out for other customer voices calling for this feature along with their expressed willingness to pay the additional cost it will entail. If we can see a business case for any technically feasible accessory we are prepared to pursue it - that is our business after all.

Hans

 

[Claimdude]

Got my GS-16 PE today. That thing was packed well enough that it my survive being run over by a half track! Great job Hans!!!!

jack

 

[Klemm]

Jack,
glad your GRS-16 PE arrived in good shape as expected. We would like some feedback as to how these tools ar stored when not in active use. We worked hard to be able to fit the original GRS-16 flat into into a SYSTAINER 1. We had hoped to be able to create a fitted HD EPS filler block for SYS 1 but found there is not enough room left around the perimeter for that to protect the tools in shipment. That's why we went to SEALED AIR urethane foam as an intermediary step. Safe transit but not very practical for storage in the shop or truck. SO we are working on tooling for a more re-usable box filler. But we also heard earlier calls for a "holster" and a "Pouch" and even a hook or something to hang the tool from the workbench or MFT-3.

We would appreciate some discussion from our customers who have received their tool and are starting to use them. What's missing to make it convenient to have around the workplace when it's not latched onto a guide rail?
Hans

 

[Kev]

I wanted a scale on the edge that goes against the work piece.
if you are cutting off the edge you can use the edge to set the distance

You can get tape with measurements to stick on .. can't remember who offers it - but there's a few.

 

[Cheese]

You can get tape with measurements to stick on .. can't remember who offers it - but there's a few.

Starrett  [cool]