A wall of wine bottles.

[Packard]

I am planning on making a wall of wine bottles.  The existing systems out there are absurdly expensive (over $20.00 per bottle). A wall of bottles would get crazy expensive.

I am planning on using 5/8” oak dowels.  Two dowels would have to hold 2-1/8 to 2-1/2 pounds.  Well within the strength of two 5/8” pegs.  Note:  I got much lighter weights when I looked online.  These weights are samples I had in the house (750ML).

I’ve seen two styles.  One where both pegs are at the same height and support the barrel of the bottle.  And the second, where on peg supports the barrel, and the other supports the neck.

I prefer both pegs supporting the barrel, as it is simpler to layout the pegs.  The pegs would be mounted on 3/4” stock about 9” wide.  The spacing between the pegs would be 5”.

I do have to provide something to prevent the bottles from rolling off the ends of the dowels.

My initial plan was to copy one I had seen online and attach a rubber O-rings.  I got the O-rings.  They are just 0.135” in diameter.

Do we feel that is enough to secure the bottles?

Other options include, decorative upholstery tacks.
Cross drilling and adding a 3mm dowel.
Adding some sort of washer at the end of the dowel.

The tacks would be the easiest.
https://wineracksamerica.com/products/vintageview-1-bottle-deep-vino-post-wine-peg

If I mount the bottles perpendicular to the wall, everything gets easier.  The O-rings would be sufficient.  But the labels will be harder to read.

Any thoughts??

 

[jwbcommon]

I know the standard approach is to store bottles nrck out. But how about having them bottom out?  It would make the labels easier to read. You would need longer dowels that way.

By the way, if the bottle weighs 2 1/2 lbs then each dowel holds two half-bottles, or 2 1/2 lbs. they should still be able to handle it.

 

[Packard]

I know the standard approach is to store bottles nrck out. But how about having them bottom out?  It would make the labels easier to read. You would need longer dowels that way.

By the way, if the bottle weighs 2 1/2 lbs then each dowel holds two half-bottles, or 2 1/2 lbs. they should still be able to handle it.

I installed some wood pegs with glue only.  The overall size was 5/8”, but the insertion size was 1/2”.  I used to hand my shoulder bag on those pegs. It probably had 10 pounds of “necessities” in it. So I am pretty confident about the strength.

 

[guybo]

good reason to buy a new domino  [big grin]

 

[Koamolly]

Could also drill holes that the neck fits in. If it’s in a box with a light the bottles could be lit up depending on the quality of wine you’re going to display.  No dowels needed. 

 

[woodbutcherbower]

good reason to buy a new domino  [big grin]

I wouldn’t trust that to support my numerous bottles of 1954 Château Lafite Rothschild, 1977 Château Margaux, and 1961 Bollinger. It’s a good job that the remainder of my cellar consists exclusively of wines purchased from ALDI, LIDL and the 24-hour garage only a 10-minute stagger away.

 

[Packard]

Something else I would not do, was run the bottles right down to the floor.  I’ve seen photos like that.

My housekeeper vacuuming or friends visiting with kids would represent a clear risk of catastrophe. 

If the bottles are in a closed wine cellar, OK.  But in the dining room?  No.

I made this wall rack years ago as a gift.  I am not thrilled with the design.  You need to leave about 8 - 10 inches between columns of wine.  Otherwise you could not load or remove the bottles.

 

[Sparktrician]

I would be inclined to mistrust dowels, and even dominoes, in any environment where there are rug rats or curtain climbers, or even cats.  Just sayin'...  [big grin]

 

[Cheese]

I have a standard wire wine rack in the cellar. Over the years the one thing that keeps changing is the size/style of the wine bottle. People want to differentiate their product and make it stand out. Changing the labeling or wine bottle size/style seems to be the easiest/preferred method. Lucky for me I do have some floor space available for those "homeless" bottles.

On the other hand, the neck dimensions never seem to change so that may be of some value. Another note, the neck is supposed to be at a slight downward slope so that any sediment settles in the neck and it can be easily removed with the cork. Red wines and ports are the biggest offenders.

 

[guybo]

It’s a good job that the remainder of my cellar consists exclusively of wines purchased from ALDI, LIDL and the 24-hour garage only a 10-minute stagger away.

the long flats of the domino double as easy storage for your ALDI bags or balance your last quarter for the cart  [sad]

 

[Koamolly]

I was messing around with a design to store wine between exposed joists of the loft that is the ceiling of my kitchen.  You would need to stagger the holes to just have the wine sit level since even the necks do vary a little. Also had an attachment issue because I didn’t want a bunch of screws/bolts holding up the system in the rough cut for joists.  I ended up with a wine refrigerator instead, which is better for the wine.  Then about four years ago quit drinking so I’m glad I didn’t build the rack.  Slowly been giving the wine away but it’s mostly used to apologize to neighbors when the dogs get into their trash.  Sometimes I think the dogs weren’t guilty, the neighbors just wanted another Orin Swift Machete.

 

[Koamolly]

good reason to buy a new domino  [big grin]

I wouldn’t trust that to support my numerous bottles of 1954 Château Lafite Rothschild, 1977 Château Margaux, and 1961 Bollinger. It’s a good job that the remainder of my cellar consists exclusively of wines purchased from ALDI, LIDL and the 24-hour garage only a 10-minute stagger away.

I would think cardboard boxes would stack pretty neatly.

 

[Packard]

I built wine storage into my kitchen, so I really don’t need additional.  In fact it will be a cost to fill the wine rack with bottles.

My main purpose is to fill a blank wall with something.  A wall of wine seemed like something that might work.

I don’t drink anymore.  The meds I was taking when I had arthritis forbade it.  After I was off the meds (the arthritis in in remission) I lost my taste for alcohol.  It was about 11 years (or $330,000.00, if I was counting).

(Though I did offer a toast at my niece’s wedding and I did drink a half a glass of Champagen.)

 

[woodbutcherbower]

good reason to buy a new domino  [big grin]

I wouldn’t trust that to support my numerous bottles of 1954 Château Lafite Rothschild, 1977 Château Margaux, and 1961 Bollinger. It’s a good job that the remainder of my cellar consists exclusively of wines purchased from ALDI, LIDL and the 24-hour garage only a 10-minute stagger away.

I would think cardboard boxes would stack pretty neatly.

True. But not as well as shipping containers

 

[mwolczko]

I have a bunch of this:https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/magnetisk-12-bottle-wine-rack-solid-wood-50514115/
It’s expandable and cheap.  If not cheap enough, you could always make your own.

 

[Steve1]

I made mine like this.
The nice part about this design is that the labels of the bottles are readily visible.
And pretty easy to make - a 1x4, a couple of 1x6's, a 3-1/2" hole saw, and a jig saw.

 

[Hotwheels]

That looks l ike a lot of cuts on a jig saw.  How did you get the curve cuts to be so consistent? Nice work.

 

[Packard]

good reason to buy a new domino  [big grin]

I wouldn’t trust that to support my numerous bottles of 1954 Château Lafite Rothschild, 1977 Château Margaux, and 1961 Bollinger. It’s a good job that the remainder of my cellar consists exclusively of wines purchased from ALDI, LIDL and the 24-hour garage only a 10-minute stagger away.

I would think cardboard boxes would stack pretty neatly.

True. But not as well as shipping containers

I have storage in my kitchen for 20 bottles.  Storage is not the issue.  I was trying to come up with something to breakup a large, unadorned wall.

That Ikea rack is not shooting for the same result.

 

[Packard]

That looks l ike a lot of cuts on a jig saw.  How did you get the curve cuts to be so consistent? Nice work.

Correction:  I do know how he did it.  It says so right in the post.  A 3-1/2” hole saw + a jig saw. 

At tip:  When using a hole saw, especially when making several same-size holes, first lightly start the all the holes.  Then go back and drill a 3/8” hole that intersects with the hole saw cut.  That will allow the sawdust to escape and the blade will not get nearly as hot.  In this case it is even easier because much of the hole is going to be cut away.  So a couple of holes in the saws path to let the saw dust escape.

A nice looking rack.  And zero risk of a dowel breaking.  And a very low risk of someone brushing against it and knocking a bottle to the floor.

My original comment follows:

I don’t know how he did it.  I would use a hole saw to make a hole and then add the cutouts.

There are probably other ways to do it, but that is how I would do it.  I also could not get that radius to look that good with a jig saw.

 

[demographic]

I'm sorry but I'm unable to grasp the concept of purchasing wine and not drinking it pretty much as soon as.
Do you just show em to yer mates?

Nope, this idea is beyond me.