I say get the Festool extractor. You wouldn't buy a Ferrari and put cheap Chinese tyres on it. Good dust extraction is such a massive part of the Festool system approach and you will never get to fully appreciate it if you compromise. There's dozens of other reasons why the Festool extractors are way ahead of their competition. I'll leave that to everyone else.
About to Buy a TS 55 with a Fein Turbo II
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andy5405 said:
As someone who has used the Fein Dustex 40 extensively for over a year and is now using a Protool VCP L-E-AC vac for a few months (same unit as the Festool CTL-26-E-AC) I can with certainty claim that the Fein in this comparison is definitely not a cheap chinese tire as you put it.
There are no bells or whistles on the Fein. It's a very utilitarian vac. The Festool/Protool on the other hand is definitely the more practical of the two with all the accessories and systainer storage. But I've noticed suction is not as strong as it was on the Fein.
If you're not just looking purely for best performance, but prefer a more all round package with more options, the Festool/Protool is the better choice.
The 2nd power outlet, better form factor and portability and systainer storage is what made me trade up my Fein for a Protool. But saying the Fein is like a Chinese tire couldn't be further from the truth. I just wanted to point that out.
If you want to get a Fein and save a few bucks, you won't be dissapointed. They're just impractical when on the move but very good at their core task, sucking dust. (The Fein vacs do have variable suction BTW)
I can also recommend the new Starmix iPulse vacs. The best shopvac your money can buy at this point in time imho.
Festool/Protool vacs are not the best in class, they are however by far the most practical with the most accessories!
All in all I'm happier now with the Protool than I was with the Fein as it's more practical because I'm on the move a lot.
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I have a Fein Turbo II that I use with everything from my TS55 and Domino all the way down to my ETS125.
I simply replaced the hose end on the standard Fein hose with a Festool hose end.
My only complaint (if any) is that the Fein hose is longer than a Festool plug it cord. I suppose I could cut it off but the extra length comes in handy sometimes.
I use the Fein collection bags and a Cleanstram HEPA filter made for a Craftsman vac. The filter is a direct friction fit but is not listed for the Fein.
If I was going to do lead paint RRP work, I would have to get a HEPA "rated" vac but my set up works extremely well for me.
The bottom line is I love my Fein Turbo II as much as my Festools.
I simply replaced the hose end on the standard Fein hose with a Festool hose end.
My only complaint (if any) is that the Fein hose is longer than a Festool plug it cord. I suppose I could cut it off but the extra length comes in handy sometimes.
I use the Fein collection bags and a Cleanstram HEPA filter made for a Craftsman vac. The filter is a direct friction fit but is not listed for the Fein.
If I was going to do lead paint RRP work, I would have to get a HEPA "rated" vac but my set up works extremely well for me.
The bottom line is I love my Fein Turbo II as much as my Festools.
If you're buying soon you may need to switch to the TS 75
http://festoolownersgroup.com/ask-festool/ts-55-req-recall-fact-or-fiction/msg268276/?topicseen#msg268276
http://festoolownersgroup.com/ask-festool/ts-55-req-recall-fact-or-fiction/msg268276/?topicseen#msg268276
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Paul G said:
Well I guess that defers the decision for now. I have no intention of buying the TS75.
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fdengel said:
I've considered that as well and will probably go that route regardless of my decision on the CT. The MFT and TS bundle essentially buys you the MFT/3 for the price of the MFT basic.
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FYI, you don't need any adapter. The hose that comes with the Fein turbo vacuums works directly with the TS-55. The rubber adapter that you can buy is more for adapting to the OF1010 port and sander ports. While you can insert it into the port on the tracksaws, it will choke the flow down too much, resulting in subpar extraction.
I have both the Fein Turbo (permanently hooked up to miter saw) and CT mini- unless Fein has changed something the included hose should insert directly into the port on the Festool track saws.
That being said, you will get static shocks off of the hose from time to time.
You can either get a Bosch or Festool Antistatic D36 or 35mm hose, and then ground the hose (since the Fein's inlet port is not grounded, unlike the Festool vacs).
No it's probably me that's confused.
It's my understanding that the adapter will help the Fein hose fit a Festool port. The thought of getting the hose was to provide plug and play for the Festool tools. I have no idea the size of the standard Fein hose.
The gift card is from Amazon and can only be used there.
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I have both the Fein Turbo (permanently hooked up to miter saw) and CT mini- unless Fein has changed something the included hose should insert directly into the port on the Festool track saws.
That being said, you will get static shocks off of the hose from time to time.
You can either get a Bosch or Festool Antistatic D36 or 35mm hose, and then ground the hose (since the Fein's inlet port is not grounded, unlike the Festool vacs).
jturner421 said:
No it's probably me that's confused.
It's my understanding that the adapter will help the Fein hose fit a Festool port. The thought of getting the hose was to provide plug and play for the Festool tools. I have no idea the size of the standard Fein hose.
The gift card is from Amazon and can only be used there.
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I have a Fein and a Festool vac and have seen no difference, other than the Fein is quieter. I compared the two of them at a WW show and could find no difference in performance between the two. I have Festools and later, needed another vac, so I figured, why not get the Festool.
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I used a Fein Turbo I for several years with my TS75, OF1400, Domino and sanders ranging from the 130 to the 6"ers. It worked great. I use it with the flexible reducer which I trimmed to fit on the Festool fittings. The reducer is cheap and effective.
The Fein has adjustable suction, and will power on the tool that is plugged into it. Being round, with multiple wheels around the circumference, it is not as tippy as the Festool. I find the Fein easier to move around, as all of the wheels swivel, whereas the rear wheels on the Festool are fixed.
That said, I just recently bought a CT36 for the extra capacity and now use the Fein for a dedicated purpose. The Festool is great also. The 36mm hose has more suction, but I never had a problem with the Fein.
If you can get a better deal on the Fein, I don't see a reason not to take advantage of it. I realize it's heresy, but considering I own about a dozen different Festools, I'm not biased against them for any reason. Personally, if something works and it is less expensive, I'm all for it.
Steve
The Fein has adjustable suction, and will power on the tool that is plugged into it. Being round, with multiple wheels around the circumference, it is not as tippy as the Festool. I find the Fein easier to move around, as all of the wheels swivel, whereas the rear wheels on the Festool are fixed.
That said, I just recently bought a CT36 for the extra capacity and now use the Fein for a dedicated purpose. The Festool is great also. The 36mm hose has more suction, but I never had a problem with the Fein.
If you can get a better deal on the Fein, I don't see a reason not to take advantage of it. I realize it's heresy, but considering I own about a dozen different Festools, I'm not biased against them for any reason. Personally, if something works and it is less expensive, I'm all for it.
Steve
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Just to close the loop on this thread, what I ended up doing was purchasing a reconditioned TS75 and CT-22 from Bob Marino. I'm very satisfied with the combination. Both reconditioned products at 20% off where is excellent condition.
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You have received lots of good advice.
I own a Fein and 3 Festool vacs. The Fein, my first high end vac, is an excellent vac and I can't fault it on any facet. I often use the Fein when I am using my TS55 to break down sheet goods simply because of its location in my shop. The hose fits the TS55 and the auto-start works with the saw as well.
However, I find the Festool vacs are equally as good AND the integrate beautifully with all my Festool tools. The perfect integration factor swayed me to buy only Festool vacs. I think the Festool vac is quieter than the Fein and has a little more "suck".
One of the Festool vacs is dedicated to my Capex and is connected via the large diameter hose. The others are used with a variety of Festool tools.
I own a Fein and 3 Festool vacs. The Fein, my first high end vac, is an excellent vac and I can't fault it on any facet. I often use the Fein when I am using my TS55 to break down sheet goods simply because of its location in my shop. The hose fits the TS55 and the auto-start works with the saw as well.
However, I find the Festool vacs are equally as good AND the integrate beautifully with all my Festool tools. The perfect integration factor swayed me to buy only Festool vacs. I think the Festool vac is quieter than the Fein and has a little more "suck".
One of the Festool vacs is dedicated to my Capex and is connected via the large diameter hose. The others are used with a variety of Festool tools.
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