Accident involving JMB's mate
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Hi JMB
Has this dreadful accident changed your views of health and safety at work? Do you think that some safety videos would be a good thing - especially for routers and saws?
Peter
Has this dreadful accident changed your views of health and safety at work? Do you think that some safety videos would be a good thing - especially for routers and saws?
Peter
Stone Message said:
Peter, You know how thorough JMB always is with his videos. I hope you have a strong stomach, or atleast dark glasses for the expected viewing. [poke]
Note to JMB: i enjoy your vids. just leave out the blood when you get into demos for this subject. [dead horse]
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Ouch looks a lot worse that my little finger accident I had 2 years ago now and still haven't got the feeling back yet.
I know what you mean about hospitals , Epsom hospital were going to send me to st Georges in tooting but my wife got them to refer me to Chelsea & Westminster a much better hospital.
I'm off next week to another hospital in Windsor to see someone about my prolapsed disc in my back. Fingers crossed I won't need surgery. I'm in my seventh week off work now :-(.
Anyway hope your mate mends ok
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I know what you mean about hospitals , Epsom hospital were going to send me to st Georges in tooting but my wife got them to refer me to Chelsea & Westminster a much better hospital.
I'm off next week to another hospital in Windsor to see someone about my prolapsed disc in my back. Fingers crossed I won't need surgery. I'm in my seventh week off work now :-(.
Anyway hope your mate mends ok
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cliffp said:
They have put some of the bone back together in place on his knuckle and put his finger in a fixed position which I believe is the position it will heal permanently fixed.
He said he wasnt happy with the position they where bandaging his finger, he thought it didnt have enough bend in it so he tried to bend it a little while the where bandaging it up and he got told off cus the pieces of bone will fall out of place if he kept moving it [crying]
He wants to go back work but was told he shouldn't go to work let it heal.
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Stone Message said:
Probly not, he probly think you shouldnt do stupid things with tools [tongue]
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Stone Message said:
It did on the day and the fallowing day because seeing his bone and knuckle fully on display made me fill sick when the bloode started coming out and covering it all that made it look a lot better like in the picture above!
I felt like I should be wearing goggles helmet space suite and every possible safety gear available but that soon wore off lol. The accident happened because he used the tool incorrectly I have never used the tool like that and I defiantly wont be doing in the future.
I have always been aware of the dangers before this. Seeing the accident has made me a little more aware. Mainly because my mates hand was about 350mm away from the router cutter now I would normally of thought your pretty safe from that position and nothing can happen to you but clearly it can it must of pulled him in that fast but again a spindle moulder used correctly would never drag a piece of timber in like that.
Health and Safety video..... lol I am probably not the person to be asking to make videos on health and safety.
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Brett,
Hope your mate is soon on the mend and that he can get by with finger not working how it should.
Just a fact of life , that you have to get used to.
If you work in this industry for all your working life , somewhere along the line you will get hurt, the only factor that you need to worry about is the existent of the injury. You try to look out for your own safety but long hours, tiredness, site work, and familiarity will eventually get you. It only take a split second and its A&E.
I think i have done ok after 30+ years 3 pads of my finger with little or no feeling and 1 fingernail that look like abstract art [embarassed]
Be as safe as you can
John
Hope your mate is soon on the mend and that he can get by with finger not working how it should.
Just a fact of life , that you have to get used to.
If you work in this industry for all your working life , somewhere along the line you will get hurt, the only factor that you need to worry about is the existent of the injury. You try to look out for your own safety but long hours, tiredness, site work, and familiarity will eventually get you. It only take a split second and its A&E.
I think i have done ok after 30+ years 3 pads of my finger with little or no feeling and 1 fingernail that look like abstract art [embarassed]
Be as safe as you can
John
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This is the result of my own backfeeding mistake of 18 yrs. ago.
I was trying to "thickness plane" a slim piece of oak about 20" long (about 3/4" x 1/4" in section.)
Even though I knew the router bit could grab the piece and pull it and my hand forward into the bit, I stupidly thought that I could just let go before that happened, since I was holding onto the back end of a 20" piece. I now know that you can't react that quick.
It appears that your mate's finger can be salvaged, albeit with possible stiffness and numbness. I am truly sorry for him, and the sight of the wound brings back some of that sick-to-stomach feeling.
I remember the overwhelming feeling of sadness that I had after returning from the doctor. I also felt stupid and ashamed, but the main feeling was sadness at the realization that I had lost part of my finger, and would never get it back.
This is the result of my own backfeeding mistake of 18 yrs. ago.
I was trying to "thickness plane" a slim piece of oak about 20" long (about 3/4" x 1/4" in section.)
Even though I knew the router bit could grab the piece and pull it and my hand forward into the bit, I stupidly thought that I could just let go before that happened, since I was holding onto the back end of a 20" piece. I now know that you can't react that quick.
It appears that your mate's finger can be salvaged, albeit with possible stiffness and numbness. I am truly sorry for him, and the sight of the wound brings back some of that sick-to-stomach feeling.
I remember the overwhelming feeling of sadness that I had after returning from the doctor. I also felt stupid and ashamed, but the main feeling was sadness at the realization that I had lost part of my finger, and would never get it back.
Wow, that's a bad one. I'm sure in time he will manage to do all the things he used to do. Like John said, he's not unique & these sort of things will always happen. As soon as I started reading how this happened I was like, no, no you can't do it like that. Then when I seen your diagram, I was going NO, NO !!!
Hope he recovers soon.
Hope he recovers soon.
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Rian said:
Cheers I will do soon as hes healed ill get him to take a picture.
Im curious to how much movement he will have once the bone has healed.
I dont think hes going for the titanium replacement idea cus of the cost. Hes going to see how it heals first.
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bummer mate things happen when you least expect it and thanks for sharing this incident it helps all off us to think and to remind us of how dangerous tools can be and are..
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Thank you for posting this. It as a good wake up call for me to be more aware especially around routers and open blades like on my saw table. I am often working late and getting tired. This was an example of I'll just quickly finish this off and then.....
I wish you friend all the best for his finger and hope he can find the strength to sit still and let it heal.
Sending healing energy.
All the best to both of you.
Pip
I wish you friend all the best for his finger and hope he can find the strength to sit still and let it heal.
Sending healing energy.
All the best to both of you.
Pip
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well first= as a former paramedic let me tell you if you work you will at some time get hurt, most of the time not as bad as this.
second= of all the tools in a shop ,the router table scares me the worse, so many people think it is safe.
and last= get back in the shop, just to look around as fast as you can!!! the longer you wait the more scared you will be.
and so sorry it happened .
(i have found jig and fixture work to be worth the trouble.)
second= of all the tools in a shop ,the router table scares me the worse, so many people think it is safe.
and last= get back in the shop, just to look around as fast as you can!!! the longer you wait the more scared you will be.
and so sorry it happened .
(i have found jig and fixture work to be worth the trouble.)
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"Accidents" really annoy me. My niece has three little girls in hospital because a police woman off duty with a child in a two ton four wheel drive sailed through a red light.
99% of accidents can be avoided by not being stupid or lazy.
I do have a lot of sympathy for this injury, but I also think that a lot of horrible things can be avoided if people think a little more about potential outcomes before they do something dangerous.
99% of accidents can be avoided by not being stupid or lazy.
I do have a lot of sympathy for this injury, but I also think that a lot of horrible things can be avoided if people think a little more about potential outcomes before they do something dangerous.
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Sorry to hear about your mate JMB and hope that it heals quickly. I know it is difficult being self employed, but probably the longer he can rest it the better the outcome will be.
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Dave,
Heal Fast Dude!
I am not going to preach - been there and do that.
Peter
Heal Fast Dude!
I am not going to preach - been there and do that.
Peter
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uww nasty Dave
Lucky wasn't worse! Hope its not to painfull to carry on working.
Every one seems to be joining my Mate on injuries at work recently all involving their hands.
My mate (the one who injured his finger) who often works for this builder and he's 'carpenter'' he was sending a few pieces of timber through the surfaces planer but decided to look round because some one said something to him but he carried on placing his hand down onto the timber.... !!blade!! took a nice shaving out of his finger to the bone same day my mate did his finger.
My mate (the one who injured his finger) one of the joiners he works with on another job decided it was a good idea to stick a 300mm long 4x2 sideways coming for the side of the table into the surface planer blade because he wanted a hallow the 4x2 slightly and............. the spinning blade must of been the correct hollow he wanted well of course the wood just spun off taking his finger into the blade. Only skimmed his finger so not to serious. This happened only few days after my mates finger!
THEN! My girlfriends cousin working in a factory with old machinery which requires 2people one person to place something into the machine and then the other to press the button downstairs to activate the clamping mechanism. The person down stairs waits for the person upstairs to shout YEP!! Now my girlfriends cousin was placing the material in place with his hands still under the clamps and the guy down stairs turned the machine on because he thought he heard some one say YEP!.
One hand got crushed and is really messed up. He has had to have surgery. To add to insult the company called up asking why are you not in work? We dont pay sick pay so you have to come in. Now don't know why my girlfriends cousin was even using a machine which requires a second person to operate with out any safety switches any way but that kind of machinery is ILLEGAL any way and if I was him I would be sueing them to the max especially if I got a call like that from them. Oh and this happend same week as my mates finger.
JMB
Lucky wasn't worse! Hope its not to painfull to carry on working.
Every one seems to be joining my Mate on injuries at work recently all involving their hands.
My mate (the one who injured his finger) who often works for this builder and he's 'carpenter'' he was sending a few pieces of timber through the surfaces planer but decided to look round because some one said something to him but he carried on placing his hand down onto the timber.... !!blade!! took a nice shaving out of his finger to the bone same day my mate did his finger.
My mate (the one who injured his finger) one of the joiners he works with on another job decided it was a good idea to stick a 300mm long 4x2 sideways coming for the side of the table into the surface planer blade because he wanted a hallow the 4x2 slightly and............. the spinning blade must of been the correct hollow he wanted well of course the wood just spun off taking his finger into the blade. Only skimmed his finger so not to serious. This happened only few days after my mates finger!
THEN! My girlfriends cousin working in a factory with old machinery which requires 2people one person to place something into the machine and then the other to press the button downstairs to activate the clamping mechanism. The person down stairs waits for the person upstairs to shout YEP!! Now my girlfriends cousin was placing the material in place with his hands still under the clamps and the guy down stairs turned the machine on because he thought he heard some one say YEP!.
One hand got crushed and is really messed up. He has had to have surgery. To add to insult the company called up asking why are you not in work? We dont pay sick pay so you have to come in. Now don't know why my girlfriends cousin was even using a machine which requires a second person to operate with out any safety switches any way but that kind of machinery is ILLEGAL any way and if I was him I would be sueing them to the max especially if I got a call like that from them. Oh and this happend same week as my mates finger.
JMB
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