again with the kapex mods

MrMac

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:D ok, I've said it before but here goes again: some sort of "detent" override so that when I need a 45.2 deg cut it doesn't jump into the 45 degree detent. Also a much larger scale (both) with a vernier scale, to get to that 1/10th deg. accuracy. No need for this to be electronic, just a large scale with a magnifier so that we could see the 1/10th degree graduations. This is critical on cutting large crown.

An imprinted scale on the fence, I don't care if it's imperial or metric.

A small "U" type attachment on the end of the cord, I can never seem to get it to stay in the cord holder at the back. Some tools have that "U" rubber thing, and it works great.

A rain cover for the kapex/UG stand. Often times in my part of the world it's raining (north latitude rain forest in western Canada) and I'd like to keep the saw dry when I'm wheeling it into a clients house.

UG stand, pneumatic tires would be great. AND some way to lock the wheels!! I get "creep" all the time and I'm constantly adjusting for that. I've used little wooden wedges, but they move as well.

And finally - yup - a 12" kapex. :D Many many jobs that I do I need that extra little bit of capacity. One that will fit on the existing UG stand.

 
1. There is a detent override - it's the black paddle that locks the head into place. Mine locks firm & won't drop into the detent even if it's right next door.

2. There is a hook for attaching the cord once it's wrapped round the cord holder. It's in the middle of the cord wrap.

As for 1/10th of a degree - are you serious? No one needs that amount of accuracy on a mitre saw. You'd get more deflection than that depending on whether you were breathing in or out when pulling the handle down. I don't think anyone could even measure the angle of the corner the crown was going into to that degree of precision.

The scale on the fence is do-able but would be more hassle than it's worth - the saw is set by moving the fence, so if you ever adjusted anything chances are the scale wouldn't be right afterwards.

I haven't heard of the UG frame moving in use, but then again I don't own one. I have used one, though. You're right about the pneumatic tyres though, same for the Sys-Roll.

And the rain cover - don't you have bin bags in Canada?  [big grin]
 
Well I mentioned the wheel locking device to someone on the design team from germany so they are aware I mentioned the syscart has something so why not the kapex ? , good point on cover I posted ages ago for one on my wish list , hey jrb bin liners are cheap but not so smart on size in a downpour , & festool make a heavy duty nylon bag for saw blades so it is possible. Also I asked three years ago for mini& midi reusable/ long life bags so you never know.
 
jonny round boy said:
1. There is a detent override - it's the black paddle that locks the head into place. Mine locks firm & won't drop into the detent even if it's right next door.

2. There is a hook for attaching the cord once it's wrapped round the cord holder. It's in the middle of the cord wrap.

As for 1/10th of a degree - are you serious? No one needs that amount of accuracy on a mitre saw. You'd get more deflection than that depending on whether you were breathing in or out when pulling the handle down. I don't think anyone could even measure the angle of the corner the crown was going into to that degree of precision.

The scale on the fence is do-able but would be more hassle than it's worth - the saw is set by moving the fence, so if you ever adjusted anything chances are the scale wouldn't be right afterwards.

I haven't heard of the UG frame moving in use, but then again I don't own one. I have used one, though. You're right about the pneumatic tyres though, same for the Sys-Roll.

And the rain cover - don't you have bin bags in Canada?  [big grin]

My friend, I live and die by the 1/10 degree. It becomes easy after a short while. For instance, I use the bosch angle finder. I measure an outside corner, and it reads 88.4 deg. subtract that from 180 and you get 91.6 degrees. divide that by 2 and you get your miter saw setting = 45.8 degrees! yup, it's that easy. "CUTTING  NESTED!!!!" if you use the buldcalc app and you cut your crown on the flat, then just enter 88.4 into the app, and push the button - tada!

Lots more on that but I won't bore you. I need this accuracy with larger crown moulding. My kapex does NOT deflect LOL I let the saw blade do the cutting, I don't force it.
My old 12" chop saws? yes, deflection big time.
I used to have this on my old 12" Milwaukee, it had the digital readout. That was ok, but the brains went out in about 3 years, and being old school I see no reason that a "mechanical" vernier scale (just draw the lines already!) wouldn't work great.
That detent over-ride? yes, but it  takes one hand to hold it squeezed up - I need it to be hands free. Other saws have this!!!! it should be a no brainer to incorporate this into the next gen.
That darned cord wrap holder - ya, sorta works but not really. Put the little rubber "U" on there and solve the problem already!
About the scale on the fence: I don't need it for measurement to the blade, I just need something that I can use quickly - sometimes I need a 5/8" measurement on crown (for those round corners (45 deg) , the minor measurement is 5/8") although this is not a biggie, I can probably put a sticky tape on one side and that would solve the issue.

Again, the garbage bag saw cover? noooooooo. This is a Cadillac sir, not a yugo. We must look the part. Custom made cover or nothing!!!
 
Checkout the Milwaukee 12" Dual-Bevel Sliding Compound Miter Saw.  It has a digital readout down to 1/10 degree.  I've found mine to be a nice powerful saw though I think they are being overly optimistic when the say it collects 75% of the dust generated.  Festool designed dust collection it doesn't have.

http://www.milwaukeetool.com/power-tools/corded/6955-20

Jay
 
Jay, that's the saw that I used to have. Heavy beast! 72 lbs. I liked the digital readout though :) till the brains went out and anything over 45 deg read as 60 degrees.
 
Mr. Mac, I definitely agree with your thoughts on the miter scale and detent over ride. The only thing I love about my old, 12" Rigid slider is, that detent over ride will stay locked out and it has a hugh miter scale. One hand to hold the work piece and the other to tap turret into adjustment.
 
To add to your Kapex wish list. How about a hold down that will adjust to allow for use with an auxiliary fence. And a way to use the extention wings with the crown stops.
 
Trust me you don't want pneumatic tires,  I used to own a Bosch gravity rise stand for my table saw and it had pneumatic tires..  they made for such an unstable base,  they would squish and sway while working    also they end up being a pain to keep the air pressure up in them as they eventually loose pressure
I use a mft table for my kapex even as a mobile contractor so I can't comment on the ug but I would imagine locking wheels would be nice

John
 
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