Alternative to Eccentric Chuck

[aloysius]

I never understood why they didn't make one for the PDC. They make one for all their drills, but if you have a PDC, you somehow don't need one?

The PDCs a Narex, not a proper (i.e. original) Festo/ol.

 

[AlexThePalex]

I never understood why they didn't make one for the PDC. They make one for all their drills, but if you have a PDC, you somehow don't need one?

The PDCs a Narex, not a proper (i.e. original) Festo/ol.

Utter nonsense, it is developed completely by Festool.

 

[aloysius]

I never understood why they didn't make one for the PDC. They make one for all their drills, but if you have a PDC, you somehow don't need one?

The PDCs a Narex, not a proper (i.e. original) Festo/ol.

Utter nonsense, it is developed completely by Festool.

Really?  Yet it was originally designed, manufactured, marketed & sold for years globally as a Protool: the DRC 12-4 & 18-4, by Narex.  At Ceska Lipa. In the Czech Republic, by Narex at their factory along with a bunch of other former, past & present Festool drills.  Ceska Lipa is also responsible for the Festo/ol 240 & 350mm circular saws, their wide beam planer & probably even the sword saw too.

Just as the Festool's Symmetric & the (current, not the really old) belt sander range are actually Holz Her products.  Or the CT11-55 range Kraenzle products.  Or the Of900 a Mafell, or (at least some of) the SR range actually Wap extractors.

A badge is just a badge.  I consider it a bit disingenuous to the original designer/maker of a product to attribute its creation elsewhere.  Narex has been making hand & power tools, componentry & armaments since at least the 30's:  many of them badged as Festo/ols.

 

[AlexThePalex]

I consider it a bit disingenuous to the original designer/maker of a product to attribute its creation elsewhere.

ROFL, I can't believe you. Disingenious? THEN STOP DOING IT!  [bite tongue]

As happens -MANY- times with you, you don't have your tool facts straight, again. On top of that, call ME disingenious. Merry X-Mas to you too, aloysius.

Do you actually know the PDC/DRC drills? You might have noticed it is fully Centrotec compatible, receives the standard Festool battery type, has the same class of EC-TEC brushless motors AND on top of that has the incredibly annoying Festool habit of beeping at you when it doesn't like something? OK, I know this is more or less for the best.  [smile]

That's all Festool. The PDC/DRC drills are completely based on the first T12+3 & T15+3 drills.

But besides that, who originally designed the drills still has no bearing on the discussion if they came with an eccentric head or not. The drill has the collar right there to accept such an attachment. The existing angle head fits, right?

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Here, while you contemplate on that, why don't you gaze at the technological marvels Festool actually DID inherit from the Narex era. They kept on selling these for the first 3 or 4 years, something like that, until the Festool designed PDC/DRC drills hit the shelves.

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[jt073]

I own both the old version and the newer version of the Milwaukee right angle drive. They’ve both worked well for me.
The early version was smaller and more compact but the handle part of the drive was cumbersome to operate and sometimes slipped.
The newer version is more robust and the handle screws in place to eliminate the slippage problems of the older right angle drive, however it is also physically larger.

Now, true story...ever since I purchased the CXS and the C15, I’ve not installed the Milwaukee right angle drives on any of my drills. The Festool drills with the right angle/eccentric chucks are just much easier to use.

Even though I don’t use it much, I keep the C15 around for 3 reasons:
1. The eccentric chuck
2. The right angle drive
3. The electronic torque limiter

Otherwise I use the Milwaukee M18 drills & the CXS exclusively.

The Milwaukee right angle adapter is a quality tool and worth having, even if it is a bit pricey. I had a cheap (£5) version like the smaller one shown above for years, but eventually mashed the gear. The Milwaukee is bulkier, but very well built.

All of these right angle adapters require two hands to operate and that can involve some contortions in tight spaces, but I have often put a long hex extension between the drill and the right angle adapter so you can keep the drill outside the [cupboard or whatever] and just one hand steadying the driver end inside the [cupboard].

The Festool offset adapter for the T18 etc is excellent (and was one of my very first Festool purchases with the excellent TDD12 drill), but requires more space behind it for the length of the drill.

Maybe these gadgets encourage a sense of invincibility so that one is inclined to position screws etc regardless of accessibility, rather than finding an alternative method; but then I have got a good few old stubby screwdrivers....

Xmas cheers