Another Great Gary Katz Video

[peter halle]

I came upon this video this morning.  Gary demonstrates several of the Festool products as well as showing off a new Bessey clamp.  Grab a cup of coffee and spend some time watching!  Some neat ideas are shown!

A Great Gary Katz Video

Peter

 

[BobKovacs]

Great video, but I really got the willys just before 14 minutes in when he reached in to grab the cutoff from the still-spinning blade.  SawStop saw or not, that's not a great technique to be putting in a training video, since some knucklehead will try it on a non-SawStop machine and end up losing a few fingers......

 

[yankee]

his shop looks like a bomb went off in it.

 

[Guy Ashley]

Great video, but I really got the willys just before 14 minutes in when he reached in to grab the cutoff from the still-spinning blade.  SawStop saw or not, that's not a great technique to be putting in a training video, since some knucklehead will try it on a non-SawStop machine and end up losing a few fingers......

[scared] [scared]

I really dont get this, if any H & S Inspectors came into a shop in the UK with an unguarded blade like you always seem to have in the US, there would an Unsafe Working stop slapped on the owner and very probably a hideous fine, and yet your UL goes crazy over what seems to me to be minor issues.

Interesting stuff but that was car crash viewing grabbing that cut off. [eek]

 

[mouppe]

Great video, but I really got the willys just before 14 minutes in when he reached in to grab the cutoff from the still-spinning blade.  SawStop saw or not, that's not a great technique to be putting in a training video, since some knucklehead will try it on a non-SawStop machine and end up losing a few fingers......

I completely agree with you when I saw it. I actually had to watch it twice to be sure he actually did that.

 

[joraft]

I liked the video, but then I like most of Gary's stuff. He looks tired, I know he's keeping up a brutal pace.

Those clamps have great possibilities.

He shouldn't have grabbed that cutoff, but I see that done a lot. It seems to almost be an uncontrollable response. Sam Maloof use to do it all the time. Hypnotized by a moving blade?  [scared]

I liked Gary's tshirt as well, one of my favorite books.  [smile]

 

[Gary Katz]

It might not be obvious to many of you, but I edited the video a lot--moving in for closeups and using wide shots for establishing the scene. I could have easily edited out the scene where I pulled that chip from the saw blade but decided not to. Like a lot of finish carpenters, I've been using a table saw almost every day for over 25 years. I know what's dangerous and what isn't. People who aren't accustomed to working close to a blade would naturally be averse to removing a chip like that. I gauged the size of the chip and how much of it was sticking above the blade before I reached for it--you can see me think about it in the video. I thought it was worth leaving in the edited video--scary for some, especially a knucklehead who might try it and get hurt! Which also reminds me of Guy's comment. The Saw Stop comes with a removable guard and riving knife--for good reason. I remove the guard frequently but rarely remove the riving knife. There are a lot of situations where the guard must be removed. In this application--since you don't seem to recognize it--I had to remove the guard in order to use the tenoning jig. But like I said, I've been doing this a for a long time. At the same time, I'm fully aware that accidents happen frequently on table saws, when you least expect them, especially when you're tired...and getting old. That's why I bought a SawStop.
Gary

 

[tiralie]

I liked the video, but then I like most of Gary's stuff. He looks tired, I know he's keeping up a brutal pace.

I thought he was quite enthusiastic and I loved the energy. I really enjoy the videos. Never having seen or met him in person I couldn't tell if he looked tired but it didn't look like it to me.

I liked Gary's tshirt as well, one of my favorite books.  [smile]

Ya, me too. Never read the book but whenever I bring it up in "polite" company I do get a conversation (rant) started.
Tim

 

[Gary Katz]

OHhh! I forgot to add...YES, a bomb did go off in my shop! I think it was an energy bomb--I'm in the middle of four different projects and unable to complete any of them, so the saw/fixture/tools setups are scattered everywhere. For those of you who are stunned by such sins, I promise I'll straighten things up before I let you see my shop again!!  I don't get a lot of time to work in there, I've been on the road every other week for six months, and prefer to spend my time on the creative rather than the mundane.

 

[tiralie]

his shop looks like a bomb went off in it.

Really? Mine (what I call a shop) by comparison would look, well lets just say the dog likes it, and I am cleaning it today.
Tim

 

[joraft]

...  I don't get a lot of time to work in there, I've been on the road every other week for six months, and prefer to spend my time on the creative rather than the mundane.

Gary, I honestly don't know how you keep it up, you seem to be everywhere, all the time. (but I am glad you do it)  [smile]

 

[Guy Ashley]

It might not be obvious to many of you, but I edited the video a lot--moving in for closeups and using wide shots for establishing the scene. I could have easily edited out the scene where I pulled that chip from the saw blade but decided not to. Like a lot of finish carpenters, I've been using a table saw almost every day for over 25 years. I know what's dangerous and what isn't. People who aren't accustomed to working close to a blade would naturally be averse to removing a chip like that. I gauged the size of the chip and how much of it was sticking above the blade before I reached for it--you can see me think about it in the video. I thought it was worth leaving in the edited video--scary for some, especially a knucklehead who might try it and get hurt! Which also reminds me of Guy's comment. The Saw Stop comes with a removable guard and riving knife--for good reason. I remove the guard frequently but rarely remove the riving knife. There are a lot of situations where the guard must be removed. In this application--since you don't seem to recognize it--I had to remove the guard in order to use the tenoning jig. But like I said, I've been doing this a for a long time. At the same time, I'm fully aware that accidents happen frequently on table saws, when you least expect them, especially when you're tired...and getting old. That's why I bought a SawStop.
Gary

Gary, no disrespect or upset intended, I guess its just different working practices, over here we would use a tenoner or spindle moulder for tenons.

I have seen a lot of jigs and techniques used by US woodworkers on tablesaws that use that particular piece of machinery in interesting and to me unusual ways that I was taught and would always use other methods or machinery for.

The main point of my post was that it is obviously common practice in workshops in the US to use an unguarded table saw blade, which to my training and eye is scary yet your UL puts a stop to relatively innocuos tools and accessories.  

To repeat, for clarity, No disrespect intended, just an observation from a different side of the pond.

 

[Gary Katz]

Guy,
No disrespect taken! I wasn't responding with any 'heat', just responding to clarify an an issue that's commonly misunderstood about table saws--you can't always use a guard--not even for cutting dadoes! So you have to come up with 'solutions.'  The homemade tenoning jig is one, just like featherboards (one mounted to a tall fence if necessary) are helpful for cutting dadoes. It would be nice if everyone could afford specialty machines, like you mentioned, but many of us do double and triple duty with the tools we have. That's another reason to be very creative when it comes to jigs and fixtures.

Gary

 

[WarnerConstCo.]

OHhh! I forgot to add...YES, a bomb did go off in my shop! I think it was an energy bomb--I'm in the middle of four different projects and unable to complete any of them, so the saw/fixture/tools setups are scattered everywhere. For those of you who are stunned by such sins, I promise I'll straighten things up before I let you see my shop again!!  I don't get a lot of time to work in there, I've been on the road every other week for six months, and prefer to spend my time on the creative rather than the mundane.

Mine looks like several bombs and some anti tank missals went off in my shop.

Personally, I don't care how you use a saw, it is your hands and fingers, not mine. 

I do stuff that people would cringe at too but, I have been doing it for a decade. 

I don't care who you are but, if you play with spinning blades everyday, you will get bit.

I have 5 different projects in all different stages in my shop, with no end in sight.  I guess that is a good thing but, it is frustrating too.

 

[Ken Nagrod]

OHhh! I forgot to add...YES, a bomb did go off in my shop! I think it was an energy bomb--I'm in the middle of four different projects and unable to complete any of them, so the saw/fixture/tools setups are scattered everywhere. For those of you who are stunned by such sins, I promise I'll straighten things up before I let you see my shop again!!  I don't get a lot of time to work in there, I've been on the road every other week for six months, and prefer to spend my time on the creative rather than the mundane.

Mine looks like several bombs and some anti tank missals went off in my shop.

Personally, I don't care how you use a saw, it is your hands and fingers, not mine. 

I do stuff that people would cringe at too but, I have been doing it for a decade. 

I don't care who you are but, if you play with spinning blades everyday, you will get bit.

I have 5 different projects in all different stages in my shop, with no end in sight.  I guess that is a good thing but, it is frustrating too.

Darcy, speaking of that, how's your finger doing from the Kapex incident?

 

[ajones]

OHhh! I forgot to add...YES, a bomb did go off in my shop! I think it was an energy bomb--I'm in the middle of four different projects and unable to complete any of them, so the saw/fixture/tools setups are scattered everywhere. For those of you who are stunned by such sins, I promise I'll straighten things up before I let you see my shop again!!  I don't get a lot of time to work in there, I've been on the road every other week for six months, and prefer to spend my time on the creative rather than the mundane.

Gary I would not have qualified that comment with a reply. [wink]

 

[Ken Nagrod]

You just can't win on the FOG.  Complaints about shops being too clean and complaints about it being too dirty or well worked in.  [big grin]

 

[WarnerConstCo.]

OHhh! I forgot to add...YES, a bomb did go off in my shop! I think it was an energy bomb--I'm in the middle of four different projects and unable to complete any of them, so the saw/fixture/tools setups are scattered everywhere. For those of you who are stunned by such sins, I promise I'll straighten things up before I let you see my shop again!!  I don't get a lot of time to work in there, I've been on the road every other week for six months, and prefer to spend my time on the creative rather than the mundane.

Mine looks like several bombs and some anti tank missals went off in my shop.

Personally, I don't care how you use a saw, it is your hands and fingers, not mine. 

I do stuff that people would cringe at too but, I have been doing it for a decade. 

I don't care who you are but, if you play with spinning blades everyday, you will get bit.

I have 5 different projects in all different stages in my shop, with no end in sight.  I guess that is a good thing but, it is frustrating too.

Darcy, speaking of that, how's your finger doing from the Kapex incident?

Healed up fine but, that finger is extremely sensitive to any kind of abuse.

If I hit it with a hammer or bash something into it, it almost brings tears to my eyes.

 

[Ken Nagrod]

If I hit it with a hammer or bash something into it, it almost brings tears to my eyes.

Like the doctor used to say, "Well, don't do that!"  [big grin]

 

[RONWEN]

A great video Gary!  I ordered those clamps before the video ended.  [wink]  All kinds of good uses for them. 

I take your point on your working habits -- they don't concern me, you haven't gotten this far in your career without knowing what you can & can't do.