Anyone prefer the Classic Systainer?

[flair woodworks]

Just curious if anyone prefers the Classic Systainers over the T-Locs, or if there is any benefit to the classic style.  Anyone?

 

[Alan m]

i have a few classics and t loc . i prefer the t loc. you can open the tloc with one hand and a flick of the finger. i am about to buy 6-7 t locs to put my tools in .i will swap the comonly used tools into these tlocs and put the lesser used tools into the classics

 

[d8b]

I prefer the T-lock. the only tool I have in a classic is my TS-55 and I'm thinking about buying a T-lock for it. Actually, I didn't buy a OF1400 in january because it was not yet available in a T-loc (The T-loc 4 & 5 were released in february).

greetz,

Philippe

 

[woodguy7]

T-locks are just nicer to hold  [cool]

 

[WarnerConstCo.]

I go both ways......... [big grin]

 

[mouppe]

I have both types of systainer and can find no advantage to the older type.

 

[Frank Pellow]

I own 29 classic systainers 1 one T-loc (soon to be 2 when I get my participation gift from the last contest [big grin]).

For the most part I prefer the T-loc variety, but, as someone who builds lots of sytainer inserts and attachments, the interior of the old systainers is easier to work with.

 

[Alan m]

I own 29 classic systainers 1 one T-loc (soon to be 2 when I get my participation gift from the last contest [big grin]).

For the most part I prefer the T-loc variety, but, as someone who builds lots of sytainer inserts and attachments, the interior of the old systainers is easier to work with.

if there are no pic it didnt happen [big grin]

 

[Frank Pellow]

I own 29 classic systainers 1 one T-loc (soon to be 2 when I get my participation gift from the last contest [big grin]).

For the most part I prefer the T-loc variety, but, as someone who builds lots of sytainer inserts and attachments, the interior of the old systainers is easier to work with.

if there are no pic it didnt happen [big grin]

[poke]    There is a pic of all my systainers:  [attachthumb=#1] in the thread: http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-tools-accessories/my-systainer-wall/

and there are many photos in many threads here of some of my systain er adaptations.    [tongue]  [tongue]

 

[Alan m]

twas pics of the inside i was after. [blink]

 

[Pdevore]

I go both ways......... [big grin]

I will leave that one ALONE!!!!!!!!!

Pete

 

[Kevin Stricker]

One advantage of the old systainers is that they are shippable.  I would consider checking one on an airplane with a wrap or two of packaging tape of course.  Not so sure about the T-loc, they are really easy to open and the knob protrudes and could be damaged.

For daily use it is a no brainer, T-locs are much nicer.  Especially in cold temps, I cringe when I have to open a classic in 20 degree weather.

 

[Brice Burrell]

One advantage of the old systainers is that they are shippable.  I would consider checking one on an airplane with a wrap or two of packaging tape of course.  Not so sure about the T-loc, they are really easy to open and the knob protrudes and could be damaged....

You could throw a wrap around the latch on the T-Loc and it wouldn't open.

 

[semenza]

Hi,

I think both have pros and cons depending on how a person uses them and what they do with them.  As Frank said the classics have some advantages when customizing.

As a total system, for the way I use them, I prefer the Classic if picking just one type. But I do have plans to swap tools into T Locs for some of my things.

I think one of the best places for the T Locs will be sander / abrasive Systainer combo stacks. These are something that get out and put away often and need to get into the bottom one often.

I make use of the rectangular holes at the front corners of the Classic.

The Classic can be freely arranged in a mixed stack. Though having to put the T Loc on top is not really too big a deal most of the time.

Most of my site kit gets opened and closed once per day so the latches are not that big a deal.

The opening and latching together of the T Loc is better.

I suspect that the feature of being able to tilt the stack to open a lower T Loc with out unstacking , will not be as great as it looks at first.  Certainly a good feature to have as an option though.

I do not see myself converting everything. I have too much (and too many) into the Classic type. And would loose too much of my customized usage.

With some planning an ideal arrangement can be had by combining both types to suit the task.

Seth

 

[flair woodworks]

One advantage of the old systainers is that they are shippable.  I would consider checking one on an airplane with a wrap or two of packaging tape of course.  Not so sure about the T-loc, they are really easy to open and the knob protrudes and could be damaged.

For daily use it is a no brainer, T-locs are much nicer.  Especially in cold temps, I cringe when I have to open a classic in 20 degree weather. 

Kevin,

If I lock two Systainers, do I pay for one checked bag or two?  I remember going through security with two boxes of parallel bar clamps.  It was HARD to explain what they were - the guy just didn't get it.  Clamps?  Yes.  Clamps?

To me, 20 degrees means 20 Celcius, which is warm!  I understand what you are saying and I'd never thought of that before!

Hi,

I think both have pros and cons depending on how a person uses them and what they do with them.  As Frank said the classics have some advantages when customizing.

As a total system, for the way I use them, I prefer the Classic if picking just one type. But I do have plans to swap tools into T Locs for some of my things.

I think one of the best places for the T Locs will be sander / abrasive Systainer combo stacks. These are something that get out and put away often and need to get into the bottom one often.

I make use of the rectangular holes at the front corners of the Classic.

The Classic can be freely arranged in a mixed stack. Though having to put the T Loc on top is not really too big a deal most of the time.

Most of my site kit gets opened and closed once per day so the latches are not that big a deal.

The opening and latching together of the T Loc is better.

I suspect that the feature of being able to tilt the stack to open a lower T Loc with out unstacking , will not be as great as it looks at first.  Certainly a good feature to have as an option though.

I do not see myself converting everything. I have too much (and too many) into the Classic type. And would loose too much of my customized usage.

With some planning an ideal arrangement can be had by combining both types to suit the task.

Seth

Hi Seth,

Great points.  The T-Locs will be most useful when one Systainer stores the tool and accessories and the other holds consumables.  The Domino is another example.  And I don't see the tilting stack feature being very helpful when you want to get at the bottom of six Systainers!

 

[Kevin D.]

I make use of the rectangular holes at the front corners of the Classic.

I assume you are talking about the rectangular holes on the front bottom of the classic systainer.  This was something I was wondering about, as I use them to hold them in place in my homemade Sysport drawers via a protruding Domino affixed to the shelf itself.  Do the new T-Loc Systainers not have the holes in the bottom front?

 

[GPowers]

I can not leave the new t-loc un-locked in the sysport. The t-loc knob interferers with the shelf above.  Normal I leave the classic systainers unlatched.  The t-loc can easily be removed.

 

[Kevin D.]

I can not leave the new t-loc un-locked in the sysport. Normal i leave the classic systainers unlatched.

Ooooh!  That's going to be a problem for me as well if I was adding them to my existing homemade sysports as well.

Gonna have to come up with a different design for future ones, or simply I'll always have to have them locked.  [sad]

 

[jonny round boy]

I can not leave the new t-loc un-locked in the sysport. Normal i leave the classic systainers unlatched.

Ooooh!  That's going to be a problem for me as well if I was adding them to my existing homemade sysports as well.

Gonna have to come up with a different design for future ones, or simply I'll always have to have them locked.  [sad]

Given that the T-Locs take all of one second to lock or unlock, is it such a big deal to keep them locked?

 

[b_m_hart]

I can't imagine the new systainers being anything but vastly superior to the old style.  I hate the old style, mine are all still ridiculously difficult to open after 3+ years.  They're nice to organize stuff, but actually opening them is a pain in the ass. Don't get me wrong, I'm no wimp, but if I tear another of my very sturdy fingernails off trying to open one, I think I'll lose my cool and have to punish the systainer.