Are there any Festools that you wouldn't want?
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mastercabman
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The tool that i regret to get is the C15.
Just do not like the slower speed when lowering the torque setting.And it has some kind of "soft start" really feels like the battery is exausted.
However,I do love my old c12.
Also,i don't think i will get another Festool jigsaw.(even if the carvex makes it here)
I really like the dust blower on my old Bosch.
Just do not like the slower speed when lowering the torque setting.And it has some kind of "soft start" really feels like the battery is exausted.
However,I do love my old c12.
Also,i don't think i will get another Festool jigsaw.(even if the carvex makes it here)
I really like the dust blower on my old Bosch.
jmbfestool said:
I got shot of the TS55 and got the Mafell...... [big grin] [big grin] I need it to cut down 8X4 sheets which the Festool did great, but when it came to veneered fire doors it was a total failure..
I do have a table saw too, the Bosch GTS 10 J...
The jigsaw i ended up getting was the Bosch 140..
John...
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neth27 said:
Oh thats okay then! I thought you didnt had a rail saw because didnt see the need in one didnt know u had sold the TS55 to replace it with the Mafell.
My mistake!
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I didn't like the RO125 at all, so i returned it, i now have the 150 and it's much better.
I have the Carvex, what i regret is that i sold my Bosch for it. the Bosch had a few flaws like warped base from new and inability to cut straight/square. the Carvex fixes all that, but feels like a nervous toy that doesn't know where it want's to start a cut. the strobe light is handy untill you start cutting when it lights up the sawdust and hides the view even more, it really lacks a blower function. I almost regret the Bosch, but come to think if it, none were really excellent.
I have the Carvex, what i regret is that i sold my Bosch for it. the Bosch had a few flaws like warped base from new and inability to cut straight/square. the Carvex fixes all that, but feels like a nervous toy that doesn't know where it want's to start a cut. the strobe light is handy untill you start cutting when it lights up the sawdust and hides the view even more, it really lacks a blower function. I almost regret the Bosch, but come to think if it, none were really excellent.
Timtool said:
The strobe light was the first thing i noticed on the Carvex, the first time i tried to do a cut out for a sink in a worktop the line disappeared [mad] then you needed the hands the size of a six year old kid to hold it properly..
John..
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Many of the Festool products duplicate tools I already have that work well and don't need to be replaced.
I own the CXS drill, but would not want any of the larger drills. The larger drills, especially the C class drills are awkwardly heavy for my needs.
I own the ETS 125 sander, but the larger sanders feel awkwardly heavy and unbalanced.
I find the Domino to be a revolutionary joinery product, but have no use for the XL Domino. I'd love to see Festool sell a mini-Domino.
The TS 55 is a clever circular saw and its guide system makes it an exceptional tool, but its larger cousin is too big for my work.
Festool appears to be selling to the professional woodworkers doing BIG jobs and to the hobby guys like me who mostly do smaller stuff. Whatever they sell is of the highest quality, well conceived, and brilliantly executed.
I own the CXS drill, but would not want any of the larger drills. The larger drills, especially the C class drills are awkwardly heavy for my needs.
I own the ETS 125 sander, but the larger sanders feel awkwardly heavy and unbalanced.
I find the Domino to be a revolutionary joinery product, but have no use for the XL Domino. I'd love to see Festool sell a mini-Domino.
The TS 55 is a clever circular saw and its guide system makes it an exceptional tool, but its larger cousin is too big for my work.
Festool appears to be selling to the professional woodworkers doing BIG jobs and to the hobby guys like me who mostly do smaller stuff. Whatever they sell is of the highest quality, well conceived, and brilliantly executed.
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mastercabman said:
Your drill shouldn't have a soft start. You might want to call Festool.
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Ghostfist - there IS a barrel grip jigsaw with variable speed. I've got one. It's an older Makita and there's a large paddle that controls the speed. It works ok, but it's not a straight cutter in thick wood. Thin stuff is fine. Newer jigsaws, including the Makita which was FWW choice, are much better in thick wood. The sight line of the Festool jigsaws is a negative according to the reviewers. Makita and Bosch are better.
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BriceBrice Burrell said:
I don't think it is but it somewhat feels like it.My old c12 doesn't do it.Never used a drill with that effect.
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I've bought and then gotten rid of quite a few Festools... Keep in mind that most of mind have also been bought used to begin with, so my expectations are not as propped up as if I had bought at retail.
I've sold:
- Trion d-handled and barrel grip jigsaws - started with the d, sold it to buy the barrel grip and sold that when I picked up a Bosch barrel grip - better saw, one-step blade guide adjust, same dust collection, Swiss-made...
- OF1400 router: heavy for a mid-range, crappy line of sight with dust shroud, $$$ for what it does compared to those I already own... Nice, but definitely not a need (Love the OF1010 though)
- ETS125: already have the ETS150 and Rotex 6", and planned to get a RO90 (already did), no need at all for the 5"
- MFK700: again, nice but not a need as I'm not soing a ton of laminate these days and already have a loaded PC installers kit. Plus, I figured I'd get the edging accessories for the 1010.
- Parallel guides: don't get me started on what a paint these are to use... Fiddly to install, take up a HUGE amount of rail overhead to work, without mods, they hang down from the surface, rule pointer in imprecise at best and very crude in terms of accuracy, fiddly to take off the rails. How great they COULD have been - quick on and off install on the rails, better cursor/pointer, longer length capability, etc. Sold them, gonna make them they way they should have been made.
- LS130: haven't sold yet, but will soon. I thought it'd be cool for crown scarf joints among other things, but it's just not seen a lot of use and I'm not feeling it.
- HL850: selling that currently - I don't do a lot of doors and I like using a planer one-handed, which you can't do with the 850. Figured I'd buy the bench unit, but at $200 or so for those toys only to yield a 12" long "jointer", I instead looked for and found a Delta 6" benchtop that's about 27" long which kills the 850 inverted for jointer work. Rustic heads are cool and that'd be the only reason I'd keep other than a bunch of door work of course. Still on the fence a bit so I'm not giving it away, sooner keep it then sell it cheap. Only have $250-275 into it purchased used anyways...
- LR32 system: haven't used it yet, but I'm not a fan of holes in my cabs or bookcases or built-ins. I think they're ugly and would prefer to have client's commit to shelf spacing cause the reality it most shelves will NEVER move once they're initially setup and the end result looks a TON better. I could see it being helpful for domino work maybe, haven't sold it yet...
Not sold on buying $$$ drills as who really needs that kind of accuracy in a job drill? I can see the appeal of good tools, but there does have to be limits to spending ridiculously as I have no regular paycheck, I'm self-employed.
The CXS looks great though...
Julian
I've sold:
- Trion d-handled and barrel grip jigsaws - started with the d, sold it to buy the barrel grip and sold that when I picked up a Bosch barrel grip - better saw, one-step blade guide adjust, same dust collection, Swiss-made...
- OF1400 router: heavy for a mid-range, crappy line of sight with dust shroud, $$$ for what it does compared to those I already own... Nice, but definitely not a need (Love the OF1010 though)
- ETS125: already have the ETS150 and Rotex 6", and planned to get a RO90 (already did), no need at all for the 5"
- MFK700: again, nice but not a need as I'm not soing a ton of laminate these days and already have a loaded PC installers kit. Plus, I figured I'd get the edging accessories for the 1010.
- Parallel guides: don't get me started on what a paint these are to use... Fiddly to install, take up a HUGE amount of rail overhead to work, without mods, they hang down from the surface, rule pointer in imprecise at best and very crude in terms of accuracy, fiddly to take off the rails. How great they COULD have been - quick on and off install on the rails, better cursor/pointer, longer length capability, etc. Sold them, gonna make them they way they should have been made.
- LS130: haven't sold yet, but will soon. I thought it'd be cool for crown scarf joints among other things, but it's just not seen a lot of use and I'm not feeling it.
- HL850: selling that currently - I don't do a lot of doors and I like using a planer one-handed, which you can't do with the 850. Figured I'd buy the bench unit, but at $200 or so for those toys only to yield a 12" long "jointer", I instead looked for and found a Delta 6" benchtop that's about 27" long which kills the 850 inverted for jointer work. Rustic heads are cool and that'd be the only reason I'd keep other than a bunch of door work of course. Still on the fence a bit so I'm not giving it away, sooner keep it then sell it cheap. Only have $250-275 into it purchased used anyways...
- LR32 system: haven't used it yet, but I'm not a fan of holes in my cabs or bookcases or built-ins. I think they're ugly and would prefer to have client's commit to shelf spacing cause the reality it most shelves will NEVER move once they're initially setup and the end result looks a TON better. I could see it being helpful for domino work maybe, haven't sold it yet...
Not sold on buying $$$ drills as who really needs that kind of accuracy in a job drill? I can see the appeal of good tools, but there does have to be limits to spending ridiculously as I have no regular paycheck, I'm self-employed.
The CXS looks great though...
Julian
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I like the CMS and all the stuff but it takes a while to put a tool into it. I'll eventually add the TS75 and keep it in the table. The 55 shuts down when ripping 2x4's (or 4x2's) and you have to wait (or take smaller bites, who is THAT patient?) for it to power up again.
Pretty happy with the other stuff. The 1400 has enough grunt for me. If I was to get the 2200 I'd leave it in the CMS all the time. Used the 1010 only a few times.
Don't need the Deltex. or the LS, the Rotex and BS75 are enough for almost everything.
Wasn't happy with the first gen Kapex wings, but don't have the coin for the new stand.
Still have a planer on the list. Have used both and like both, but the carving heads for the larger are fantastic if you can find a use for them.
Still can't justify a sysport, despite having been offered a great deal on them more than once.
Didn't like the Trion much initially but I often use it upside down cutting towards me most of the time now [scared] and it's pretty good that way. It's how it gets used in the CMS as well [big grin]
Love the T15 but really don't want to buy it again for an impact. Love the Centrotec set. Thinking about the Hitachi impact.
Rail bag is handy but it's a bummer it only goes up to 1400. My fave combo is 1400 and 1900.
I like the CMS and all the stuff but it takes a while to put a tool into it. I'll eventually add the TS75 and keep it in the table. The 55 shuts down when ripping 2x4's (or 4x2's) and you have to wait (or take smaller bites, who is THAT patient?) for it to power up again.
Pretty happy with the other stuff. The 1400 has enough grunt for me. If I was to get the 2200 I'd leave it in the CMS all the time. Used the 1010 only a few times.
Don't need the Deltex. or the LS, the Rotex and BS75 are enough for almost everything.
Wasn't happy with the first gen Kapex wings, but don't have the coin for the new stand.
Still have a planer on the list. Have used both and like both, but the carving heads for the larger are fantastic if you can find a use for them.
Still can't justify a sysport, despite having been offered a great deal on them more than once.
Didn't like the Trion much initially but I often use it upside down cutting towards me most of the time now [scared] and it's pretty good that way. It's how it gets used in the CMS as well [big grin]
Love the T15 but really don't want to buy it again for an impact. Love the Centrotec set. Thinking about the Hitachi impact.
Rail bag is handy but it's a bummer it only goes up to 1400. My fave combo is 1400 and 1900.
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yesDogwood said:
as you set a lower torque,the speed of the drill is decreased.
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So far I have been happy with all of my Festool purchases...I do not see ever getting the 125mm sanders or the DX since I prefer the larger 150mm sanders and I have the DTS and RO90. I really need a new jigsaw and have been holding out for the eventual release of the Carvex, but I might move to getting the Trion or something else sooner. Cannot see getting a Planex or the small planer...not sure I can justify the 850 either although that is an awesome hand planer and would love to have one...I would love to add a couple of more MFT/3's to my shop or a home built system -- so versatile and it has turned out to be my most used Festool of all.
Scot
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No. I want them all! [thumbs up] [thumbs up]
But realistically my acquisitions are currently based on need - not want. I can't see a Shinex in my future, nor a Domino XL. The sanding line is so large that some models would be excluded. If I got the large planer I wouldn't probably get the smaller planer. I could see owning each of the router models.
But if I win the lottery - all bets are off and there would be a very happy Festool dealer / dealers!
Peter
But realistically my acquisitions are currently based on need - not want. I can't see a Shinex in my future, nor a Domino XL. The sanding line is so large that some models would be excluded. If I got the large planer I wouldn't probably get the smaller planer. I could see owning each of the router models.
But if I win the lottery - all bets are off and there would be a very happy Festool dealer / dealers!
Peter
