Backward dovetails? New pics, nearly finished

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I have seen them done wrong, where the side with the force against them is on the pins, rather than the tails, but these are angled the wrong direction. There is no trapping of the piece.
Now, to be fair, these are "fake" and only for decoration, but it is bothersome to my head. I could deal with the rather excessive angle, if it faced the right way.
I have questioned it multiple times, hoping it was just drawn by someone who doesn't understand how they work, to no avail. Finally, the project manager showed me a pic of an existing unit, at another location. Apparently, that's the way it's supposed to be?
Ultimately, this will be done with Walnut and Ash veneers, this was just me testing the fit and process.
The size and spacing are correct, it's just that this was done with laminate scrap, rather than wasting veneer.
Shaper Origin made cutting the template easy. The ability to off-set your cuts is very helpful, when making a template for use with a bushing. This made it possible to do the cutting with a tiny 2mm bit. The template serves double duty for cutting the negative space that way, then turned around for use with Origin, cutting the positive side.
It could be done in an analog way, and years ago I would have had to do that, but this sure saves a bunch of time. It also falls into that perfect niche, outside the range of a gantry-style CNC machine.
I should have blown the dust off, the joints are much better than they look in that pic  [embarassed]
 

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Further proof that modern society is so starved for genuine quality that pretty much any attempt at a masquerade of such will be accepted (or at least find a market)

(and yes, if you check out a photo of my house in Google Street View, the front porchlight pokes through one of a pair of fake shutters --- there used to be two such examples, fixed one, the other is just waiting for the light to rust out so that I can justify spending money on a cosmetic thing which the finance committee is blind to)
 
Those are "quick release" dovetails.  Handy for furniture races, where they save time during pit stops
 
WillAdams said:
... if you check out a photo of my house in Google Street View, the front porchlight pokes through one of a pair of fake shutters

House down the street from me has nice two story columns on the corners of the front porch. 
But there is a big bump-out on the first floor, right beside the porch, so one of those columns goes through the soffit and roof of the bump-out.
 
tsmi243 said:
Those are "quick release" dovetails.  Handy for furniture races, where they save time during pit stops

That's a good one! Alternatively, think of them as easy assembly finger joints - the angle helps with alignment and prevents a glue-starved joint... [huh]

In the US there are probably millions of single-piece molded doors made from compressed wood dust/fibers made to look like frame and panel, but no frame, no panel, and no need to worry about wood movement.
 
smorgasbord said:
Alternatively, think of them as easy assembly finger joints - the angle helps with alignment and prevents a glue-starved joint... [huh]

In the US there are probably millions of single-piece molded doors made from compressed wood dust/fibers made to look like frame and panel, but no frame, no panel, and no need to worry about wood movement.
That was my first thought, they are just easy box joints.

Yes, the fake frame and panel look used to be pretty common, especially in big box store cabinets. A lot of them also have arched top rails, sometimes bottom too. A lot of the prefinished white ones have a thermo-formed plastic coating on the face, rather than paint.
Lately there has been a bit of a surge in making them with 1/2" MDF and applying 1/4" MDF to the face, mimicking frame and panel on the outside, but flat on the inside.
I find this superior for drawer fronts, for attachment purposes, but I don't like it on doors.
A least you didn't call them Shaker. That drives me crazy. Shaker is very specific, not a term for all things Frame and Panel.
 
The template could be used with a router to make dovetails. Use it the correct way around, and only on end grain. It would need to remove the section across the front to allow the router to enter the space with a bearing, along with a way to hold the template at the rear of the board. Then you would have a poor man's Leigh guide. I prefer to cut all my dovetails by hand.

Regards from Perth

Derek
 
The only thing more ludicrous than faux dovetails is BACKWARDS faux dovetails.

Isn't this what the architect in Fountainhead liked to rail against (non functional flying buttresses, etc) ?

Now I feel bad for making faux through tennons on my A&C pieces....
 
Not 100% done, it still needs to go to the finish department. They did come over and seal the edges of the Walnut and pre-stain/finish the dovetail pieces. The entire side still needs to be stained to match. The reveal under the blue tape and the hardwood in that lower beveled area, get it too.
I even went to the trouble to grain match those blocks around the corner. No one will ever be able to see it though.....not that they would even look for that  [unsure]
 

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Last pics until it gets installed. It's supposed to ship tomorrow, so we'll see.
 

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