Bench dogs
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Hi Steve
There are many different types of bench dogs which are useful with the MFT3. Lee Valley have a selection of dogs, including the Parf Dogs which are sold under the Veritas standard. They are made of stainless steel and very competitively priced.
Elsewhere you can find dogs, of various types, made by Qwas.
Do a search on YouTube and you will find videos about each type. Also, have a good hunt around the FOG (do a search) and you will find tons of information which will help.
Peter
There are many different types of bench dogs which are useful with the MFT3. Lee Valley have a selection of dogs, including the Parf Dogs which are sold under the Veritas standard. They are made of stainless steel and very competitively priced.
Elsewhere you can find dogs, of various types, made by Qwas.
Do a search on YouTube and you will find videos about each type. Also, have a good hunt around the FOG (do a search) and you will find tons of information which will help.
Peter
RMW had several dogs. I got a bunch from him in several styles, all great. ripdogs@live.com
Seneca Wood Working has some as well. senecawoodworking.com
As Peter said, there are many. Just Google a search.
Seth Semenza started a discussion about sources for Festoy add-ons and adaptable tools. I don't have the discussion right at my finger tips, but I am sure it is in Non Festool group
Tinker
Seneca Wood Working has some as well. senecawoodworking.com
As Peter said, there are many. Just Google a search.
Seth Semenza started a discussion about sources for Festoy add-ons and adaptable tools. I don't have the discussion right at my finger tips, but I am sure it is in Non Festool group
Tinker
Clermont’s in Burnaby carries Qwas dogs, but I can had problems with their shipping (loose in a Courier shipping envelope)- my dogs were damaged in shipping, so I returned them. To add insult to injury I had to pay the shipping costs both ways. As mentioned Lee Valley carries Parf dogs and their customer service is top class- Now, I’d go with them.
To be fair- I re ordered mine from Qwas in the states and received excellent service from Steve.
To be fair- I re ordered mine from Qwas in the states and received excellent service from Steve.
Just purchased the Veritas Parf Dogs and small dogs from Lee Valley (www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=71185&cat=1,41637)
Fits perfectly on the MFT and top quality made (wouldn't expect anything less from Veritas/LV). At $14.50 CAD for two small dogs and $19.50 CAD for two Parf dogs, you really can't go wrong. And they come all wrapped up in brown paper and into a cardboard box, so no needs to worry about possible damage if you get them shipped to you.
Danny
Fits perfectly on the MFT and top quality made (wouldn't expect anything less from Veritas/LV). At $14.50 CAD for two small dogs and $19.50 CAD for two Parf dogs, you really can't go wrong. And they come all wrapped up in brown paper and into a cardboard box, so no needs to worry about possible damage if you get them shipped to you.
Danny
Many thanks Litch and Danny. Lee Valley have made a fantastic job both manufacturing and presenting the Parf and associated Bench Dogs. They had one customer who was not happy when they were packed loose in pairs and so Lee Valley immediately sorted it out - great company.
I hope to be showing off some more ways that they can be used once my current video work is published.
Peter
I hope to be showing off some more ways that they can be used once my current video work is published.
Peter
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I purchased four "Precision Dogs" and like them very much.
Then I purchased four Qwas "Rail Dogs". Great product. Great for quick rip setup.
Be sure to watch Paul Marcel's three part video on setting up an MFT and use of Qwas Dogs to true up the fence and rail. Absolutely Amazing! (Quarter inch shy Blog)
As a new guy I had to watch it several times, but now I can true everything up in a minute and I'm making better cross cuts and 45's than I can make with a my friend's Hitachi 12" mitre saw. Incredible. With Paul's method I quickly double check everything with a Starrett Square and Woodpecker triangle. It's spot on. Every time.
I had a lot of trepidation using the MFT to cut 45's on some 5/4 walnut. I couldn't be happier with the results.
The Hitachi will be returned to my friend tomorrow.
Then I purchased four Qwas "Rail Dogs". Great product. Great for quick rip setup.
Be sure to watch Paul Marcel's three part video on setting up an MFT and use of Qwas Dogs to true up the fence and rail. Absolutely Amazing! (Quarter inch shy Blog)
As a new guy I had to watch it several times, but now I can true everything up in a minute and I'm making better cross cuts and 45's than I can make with a my friend's Hitachi 12" mitre saw. Incredible. With Paul's method I quickly double check everything with a Starrett Square and Woodpecker triangle. It's spot on. Every time.
I had a lot of trepidation using the MFT to cut 45's on some 5/4 walnut. I couldn't be happier with the results.
The Hitachi will be returned to my friend tomorrow.
Danny said:
... or Paul is getting better at woodwork ! [poke]
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Danny said:
For all of you that are metric oriented, that would roughly be "13mm Shy".
Oh wait, that won't help you find him.
Based on Paul's videos, I bought Qwas Dogs and Qwas Rail Dogs. Then after seeing Peter's videos, I bought a set of short Parf Dogs, and a set of tall dogs. Then I placed another Lee Valley order and got the Veritas 20mm Bench Blade, and four more short Parf Dogs, plus the 20mm "dog" that holds a lamp in your table. I have since refused to watch anyone else's videos and let my credit card cool off..
iamnothim said:
Hi, I'm also new at this and followed that same video (into bankruptcy as well as precision. [tongue])
If it makes it any easier/faster, I found that I didn't need 2 of the "african MDF" calibration pieces, and I also asked Paul a question about that in the comments section on the video and you can see his reply.
- instead of using a calibration piece for the fence, you can just use 2 dogs on the last row and push the rail towards you. You can't absolutely maximise the cross-cut capability, but it's still quite good.
- instead of using a calibration piece for the guide rail, if you insert the 2 rail dogs and drop it down, you'll find that the cut line will be in a good location. You can't put the regular dogs into holes and push the back of the guide rail into it because the cut line would then be through a set of holes. But since you have the rail dogs, then this will be in a good position
I still needed to use one calibration piece for the ruler for the fence stop though.
Anyway, hope this helps someone if they want to do less cutting of those calibration pieces, because as a beginner I wasn't sure I could get 100% accurate parallel sides, and also didn't want to have as many pieces floating around.
Thanks a million to Paul though - for his video and also his reply.
Cheers!
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I have the Bench and the Parf dogs which I purchased from Lee Valley and they rarely leave the MFT .. you will wonder how you ever got by without them.
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Will the Parf dogs work with the older MFT800 tables? For some reason, aren't the holes just a tad smaller so there are fit issues with the newer dogs?
I use 8 of Precision Dogs stops. The thru hole makes them perfect for using 5/16" or 8mm clamping knobs or bolts. They also have rail dogs that have an adjustable height collar. I have a pair of Qwas rail dogs that I have rubber bands around to keep them from falling thru. The Precision Dogs collar is a much more elegant idea.
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