Bessey GearKlamp
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By the way, does anyone know if we can get these at that kind of price in NA?
http://www.besseytools.co.uk/bessey-4-x-deep-throat-clamps-tgn40t30-400-300.html
http://www.besseytools.co.uk/bessey-4-x-deep-throat-clamps-tgn40t30-400-300.html
I think the idea behind the gear clamps is quite interesting.
But it still has a limitation in the range of adjustment (maximum length of the rod that does the actual clamping) as with nearly all clamps which can be quite unfun in case you reach the maximum extension possible while pulling together stuff that isn't cooperative.
A design where the gear would operate on a row of teeth along the rail (instead of extending a rod) would IMHO be the best since bread in slices: This would allow move the clamp block along the full rail under (possibly near the maximum) clamping pressure, the only limit of adjustment through rotating the handle would be the ends of the rail and this would eliminate the need to reset it (as there wouldn't be a clamping rod that can be partly extended after being used).
Add a button to release the gear (while not under load) to allow freely moving the block or pulling it to convert for spreading, have the counter block (like the REVO KRV) moveable (by attaching into the same line of teeth), offer each and all parts individually (single - or in reasonably sized packs for the protective stuff) and it would be the design on top of my shopping list when it comes to clamping.
But it still has a limitation in the range of adjustment (maximum length of the rod that does the actual clamping) as with nearly all clamps which can be quite unfun in case you reach the maximum extension possible while pulling together stuff that isn't cooperative.
A design where the gear would operate on a row of teeth along the rail (instead of extending a rod) would IMHO be the best since bread in slices: This would allow move the clamp block along the full rail under (possibly near the maximum) clamping pressure, the only limit of adjustment through rotating the handle would be the ends of the rail and this would eliminate the need to reset it (as there wouldn't be a clamping rod that can be partly extended after being used).
Add a button to release the gear (while not under load) to allow freely moving the block or pulling it to convert for spreading, have the counter block (like the REVO KRV) moveable (by attaching into the same line of teeth), offer each and all parts individually (single - or in reasonably sized packs for the protective stuff) and it would be the design on top of my shopping list when it comes to clamping.
leakyroof
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. What’s the clamping pressure of that Quick-Clamp? Does it reach the 450 rating of the GearKlamp? My experience with several different brands of those type clamps that you posted is that it’s hard to reach the clamping pressure achieved by my medium to HD F- clamps and cabinet clamps.Svar said:
My lightweight F-Clamps start bending their bars when you’ve pushed them, maybe they’re in the same league as the Quick Clamps for pressure.
I’ll have to look up the specs and see
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I have a had a good number of times that the quick clamp handle sticking out has been in the way. And also when it would have been nice to be able to control the tightness much more precisely than can be done with the squeeze handle quick clamps.
I don't see it as reinventing the wheel , I see it as another type of clamp in the tool arsenal.
Seth
I don't see it as reinventing the wheel , I see it as another type of clamp in the tool arsenal.
Seth
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Pusher will have stock this Friday on the shorter ones. Will pick up two 150mm for the man purse and possibly two for the shop.
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Picked up four GearKlamp 15 (150mm) today. Feels pretty well put together and they will go into action straight away.
I got reamed on the price, they just got them in and I was the first one to buy them and I feel I probably overpaid by a huge margin [unsure] but I realized that just now as I was checking online prices. Online I could find them at more than 30% off what I paid [crying]. Basically I paid more for the 150mm than what the 600mm cost...
I got reamed on the price, they just got them in and I was the first one to buy them and I feel I probably overpaid by a huge margin [unsure] but I realized that just now as I was checking online prices. Online I could find them at more than 30% off what I paid [crying]. Basically I paid more for the 150mm than what the 600mm cost...
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Leakyroof: will be back in a few days with initial findings.
I started by misplacing the bag with the clamps as I had no recollection of bringing them from the car but I did remember taking out the trash [crying] and for a while I thought I had tossed them out the first thing I did. Then I realized I had put the clamps in a grocery bag and the groceries are in the fridge so sheer logic tells me the clamps made it home. Probably put them in a workbag so need to go down to the basement and start rummaging through some bags and find them. That's what happens when your are neck deep in a project and switch off your brain.
Tallgrass:
I am very sceptical about anything with moving parts being subjected to excess glue - especially internal parts...
For my intended (general) use I think they will be fine. I am hoping I won't be able to answer that question! But I will see if they can be taken apart for a clean up if it would come to that.
First up will be a strength test, they will perform as grips for lifting up a very large mdf carcass into a waist high opening in a wall. Cabinet is about 170cm high by 158cm wide and 40cm deep with a 16mm mdf back board - so quite heavy and with only a few mm to spare in the opening. Last time I did this lift by myself I came very close to not making it - as I committed to the lift and could no longer place it back down safely I realized I could not see ANYTHING except the interior of the cabinet and had only 2mm on either side, top and bottom for clearance. I was lucky I got it in place on the first try... ...yesterday when I had to lift up a 25mm mdf sheet and place it down on the format saw I did realize I am past my prime when it comes to lifting heavy sheet goods [unsure].
I started by misplacing the bag with the clamps as I had no recollection of bringing them from the car but I did remember taking out the trash [crying] and for a while I thought I had tossed them out the first thing I did. Then I realized I had put the clamps in a grocery bag and the groceries are in the fridge so sheer logic tells me the clamps made it home. Probably put them in a workbag so need to go down to the basement and start rummaging through some bags and find them. That's what happens when your are neck deep in a project and switch off your brain.
Tallgrass:
I am very sceptical about anything with moving parts being subjected to excess glue - especially internal parts...
For my intended (general) use I think they will be fine. I am hoping I won't be able to answer that question! But I will see if they can be taken apart for a clean up if it would come to that.
First up will be a strength test, they will perform as grips for lifting up a very large mdf carcass into a waist high opening in a wall. Cabinet is about 170cm high by 158cm wide and 40cm deep with a 16mm mdf back board - so quite heavy and with only a few mm to spare in the opening. Last time I did this lift by myself I came very close to not making it - as I committed to the lift and could no longer place it back down safely I realized I could not see ANYTHING except the interior of the cabinet and had only 2mm on either side, top and bottom for clearance. I was lucky I got it in place on the first try... ...yesterday when I had to lift up a 25mm mdf sheet and place it down on the format saw I did realize I am past my prime when it comes to lifting heavy sheet goods [unsure].
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Ok, so I've used the Gearklamp a few times now and for me it is a mixed bag.
I am not superthrilled by the release or initial clamping action, maybe there is some getting used to it but I found that I started reaching for the Bessey Kliklamps most of the time. For one handed action the Gearklamp is a bit fiddly.
Still, they will have their use but I suggest trying them in store before buying, if you can.
Good clamps, yes, but not great - unless you happen to run into those tight spaces/clamping ops where the shape lends itself better to the task.
I am not superthrilled by the release or initial clamping action, maybe there is some getting used to it but I found that I started reaching for the Bessey Kliklamps most of the time. For one handed action the Gearklamp is a bit fiddly.
Still, they will have their use but I suggest trying them in store before buying, if you can.
Good clamps, yes, but not great - unless you happen to run into those tight spaces/clamping ops where the shape lends itself better to the task.
