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I haven't... I have one in my head and it would be convenient... But the stretch hasn't been as bad as I imagined it would be.
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In the same video around 2:38 you see the end clearly for the 4040 piece being the Lite version (40-4040-Lite).johnredl said:
At the 9:27 mark you can barely see the ends of the 4080 pieces and it is also the Lite version (40-4080-Lite).
I don't work for 8020, but I did similar research back when I first saw the video series.
He used 40-6075 as a guide to drill the holes into the extrusions. I did not look that closely into the bolts he used and such though. I reigned in my OCD by that point.
I was not pointing out the times to call you out (after the 40 series reply I made). It was to illustrate the ends as clear as possible so that you could verify what I was telling you.
Video 2 in the series at 2:04 shows the 4080 ends very clearly.
Video 2 in the series at 2:04 shows the 4080 ends very clearly.
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Do you have build plans?
Ryan, just wanted to express my gratitude for sharing all of this with us. I'll be building my own version of this table soon with some pretty sweet additions and I'm incredibly excited to have such a versatile piece. Thanks for sparking the ideas! Will definitely share my end results with you! 8020 are idiots for not responding to your request to make a kit. I'd buy plans in a heart beat. You rock man.
It was my way of solving the spacing problem below the 4080 extrusions. I raise the top to tighten/loosen dog knobs. I also finished a tray to store my dogs that fits between a couple of the cross braces. Plus, I can raise the top to grab anything that fell in a hole that wasn't magnetic or blow out dust that collects there.tsmi243 said:
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Hello to all,
Regarding some questions about the desire for a detent/catch on my guide rail brackets to keep the saw rail from needing to be raised completely between cuts: This is a very difficult problem to solve in a cost-effective way. I'm open to including that feature if anyone here has a good solution and it can be achieved at a reasonable, extra expense. Things here are so busy that it's not something I'll have time to pursue in the foreseeable future, so I'm open to suggestions.
Cheers,
Rob
Regarding some questions about the desire for a detent/catch on my guide rail brackets to keep the saw rail from needing to be raised completely between cuts: This is a very difficult problem to solve in a cost-effective way. I'm open to including that feature if anyone here has a good solution and it can be achieved at a reasonable, extra expense. Things here are so busy that it's not something I'll have time to pursue in the foreseeable future, so I'm open to suggestions.
Cheers,
Rob
RightAngleDesign said:
I'm going to start building my own version of this table soon (I need to place an order with you asap!). I have a background in Industrial Design and design/prototype soft goods here and there. I was thinking of mounting a leather strap with a loop on one end with a thin piece of aluminum sewn inside (provides structure) to the edge of the guide rail. Would extend perpendicular to the rail. When you lift the guide rail in the vertical position it will extend toward the user and shorten the reach by 6-18", depending on how long the strap is. When lowered it can overhang off the edge of the table. Will make a lot more refinements when I actually get idea out of my brain onto some paper. Will cause some interference with usage of edge tracks/potential drawers, but, a solution is always attainable.
j.wendell said:
Have an integrated routing table on one end of it.
RightAngleDesign
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Hello to all,
Regarding some questions about the desire for a detent/catch on my guide rail brackets to keep the saw rail from needing to be raised completely between cuts: This is a very difficult problem to solve in a cost-effective way. I'm open to including that feature if anyone here has a good solution and it can be achieved at a reasonable, extra expense. Things here are so busy that it's not something I'll have time to pursue in the foreseeable future, so I'm open to suggestions.
Cheers,
Rob
I'm going to start building my own version of this table soon (I need to place an order with you asap!). I have a background in Industrial Design and design/prototype soft goods here and there. I was thinking of mounting a leather strap with a loop on one end with a thin piece of aluminum sewn inside (provides structure) to the edge of the guide rail. Would extend perpendicular to the rail. When you lift the guide rail in the vertical position it will extend toward the user and shorten the reach by 6-18", depending on how long the strap is. When lowered it can overhang off the edge of the table. Will make a lot more refinements when I actually get idea out of my brain onto some paper. Will cause some interference with usage of edge tracks/potential drawers, but, a solution is always attainable.
I'm interested in seeing what you come up with. I've done quite a bit with low volume manufacturing and may be able to create a new product along these lines. Thanks!
Regarding some questions about the desire for a detent/catch on my guide rail brackets to keep the saw rail from needing to be raised completely between cuts: This is a very difficult problem to solve in a cost-effective way. I'm open to including that feature if anyone here has a good solution and it can be achieved at a reasonable, extra expense. Things here are so busy that it's not something I'll have time to pursue in the foreseeable future, so I'm open to suggestions.
Cheers,
Rob
I'm going to start building my own version of this table soon (I need to place an order with you asap!). I have a background in Industrial Design and design/prototype soft goods here and there. I was thinking of mounting a leather strap with a loop on one end with a thin piece of aluminum sewn inside (provides structure) to the edge of the guide rail. Would extend perpendicular to the rail. When you lift the guide rail in the vertical position it will extend toward the user and shorten the reach by 6-18", depending on how long the strap is. When lowered it can overhang off the edge of the table. Will make a lot more refinements when I actually get idea out of my brain onto some paper. Will cause some interference with usage of edge tracks/potential drawers, but, a solution is always attainable.
I'm interested in seeing what you come up with. I've done quite a bit with low volume manufacturing and may be able to create a new product along these lines. Thanks!
First post here. Just wanted to drop in and say that this is such an awesome build. I've followed it from the beginning and likely attributed 100 views to each of the YouTube vids. I'm adding to this to first say thanks, and secondly to share the costs of this build as it progresses.
I can, factually, tell you that the aluminum extrusion new, shipped, was near $1600.00. I reached out to ACS in Georgia and had them mock up Ryan's plans. These plans, can be resubmitted to ACS by anyone wanting these plans. Once constructed it will be near exact height to my SawStop so that it may also be utilized as an outfield table.
I currently have the substructure assembled, and can tell you that the tolerances between drawers will be tight because of the reduced height. Because of this I will be utilizing 1/4 plywood as the dead space divider between the top and the sustainer drawers. To get the clearance needed to allow a sys 1,2,3 you will have to lay the 1/4" ply on top of the end supports. Even then this will be tight, allowing a 1/4" between vertical sustainer shelves loaded with sustainers.
I will post pictures of the progress along the way. The table will be purchased all new. I can tell you already that the price tag of this table will likely exceed $2500.00 if your thinking of purchasing all new. That price will not even include side drawers, delron chip board, nor the DashBoard system with Festool rail. I know many asked, and I will do my best to provide clarity along the way.
Before someone says it, I'm not trying to flaunt the fact that it's all been purchased new. I really needed an assembly table, and the MFT just isn't big enough to cut the mustard. Great for an occasional cut and sanding, but that's about it. Kinda mad I ever bought one to begin with. Plus, with a move in the future, I needed something that could contain 75% of my tools and be wheeled into the bed of a moving van. So, necessity. Overall, I'm just trying to provide insight into actual cost new and some advice along the way if you proceed this way. If you've tried buying 80/20 on Ebay, good luck with that headache. Ryan, hats off to you brother. That is a chore!
The aluminum shipped to Knoxville, TN was $182.00 and came all packaged in one box measuring about 8.5' long by 12" square.
Note: Don't pay for their casters, they are about $150.00 cheaper on Amazon, and you can even get the ratchet style from FootMaster.
FootMaster GDR-80F-BLK 1100lbs per caster at a cost of $235.00
Drawer slides can also be purchased on Amazon cheaper than anywhere. I opted for Promark 18" and 24" soft close, 100lb capacity drawer slides at a cost of $204.90 (10 packs).
I went with the same drawer pulls from Orange Aluminum at a cost of $50.00 (5-6' sticks).
The remainder of the table will be solely based upon the cost of building materials (ie; 1/2" sheet plywood, mdf, and poplar drawer supports).
As for the MDF top parf, I will be utilizing the UJK Parf system.
As for drawer CNCing, it will be done by a friend at little to no cost.
Again, Ryan amazing project. Hopefully my copying comes as the highest form of flattery!
-Brett
I can, factually, tell you that the aluminum extrusion new, shipped, was near $1600.00. I reached out to ACS in Georgia and had them mock up Ryan's plans. These plans, can be resubmitted to ACS by anyone wanting these plans. Once constructed it will be near exact height to my SawStop so that it may also be utilized as an outfield table.
I currently have the substructure assembled, and can tell you that the tolerances between drawers will be tight because of the reduced height. Because of this I will be utilizing 1/4 plywood as the dead space divider between the top and the sustainer drawers. To get the clearance needed to allow a sys 1,2,3 you will have to lay the 1/4" ply on top of the end supports. Even then this will be tight, allowing a 1/4" between vertical sustainer shelves loaded with sustainers.
I will post pictures of the progress along the way. The table will be purchased all new. I can tell you already that the price tag of this table will likely exceed $2500.00 if your thinking of purchasing all new. That price will not even include side drawers, delron chip board, nor the DashBoard system with Festool rail. I know many asked, and I will do my best to provide clarity along the way.
Before someone says it, I'm not trying to flaunt the fact that it's all been purchased new. I really needed an assembly table, and the MFT just isn't big enough to cut the mustard. Great for an occasional cut and sanding, but that's about it. Kinda mad I ever bought one to begin with. Plus, with a move in the future, I needed something that could contain 75% of my tools and be wheeled into the bed of a moving van. So, necessity. Overall, I'm just trying to provide insight into actual cost new and some advice along the way if you proceed this way. If you've tried buying 80/20 on Ebay, good luck with that headache. Ryan, hats off to you brother. That is a chore!
The aluminum shipped to Knoxville, TN was $182.00 and came all packaged in one box measuring about 8.5' long by 12" square.
Note: Don't pay for their casters, they are about $150.00 cheaper on Amazon, and you can even get the ratchet style from FootMaster.
FootMaster GDR-80F-BLK 1100lbs per caster at a cost of $235.00
Drawer slides can also be purchased on Amazon cheaper than anywhere. I opted for Promark 18" and 24" soft close, 100lb capacity drawer slides at a cost of $204.90 (10 packs).
I went with the same drawer pulls from Orange Aluminum at a cost of $50.00 (5-6' sticks).
The remainder of the table will be solely based upon the cost of building materials (ie; 1/2" sheet plywood, mdf, and poplar drawer supports).
As for the MDF top parf, I will be utilizing the UJK Parf system.
As for drawer CNCing, it will be done by a friend at little to no cost.
Again, Ryan amazing project. Hopefully my copying comes as the highest form of flattery!
-Brett
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Welcome, Brett!
I think I contributed a lot to Ryan's YouTube video views as well. I built my assembly table based on Ryan's design, but tailored to fit my small basement shop. It has become the "ship in the basement", since it will never see the light of day unless my next of kin disassemble it to move it.
Here is the thread I started for my build:
https://www.festoolownersgroup.com/...ements/medium-bfmft-workbench-build/msg621357
Good luck with your build, and please start a project thread for it.
Thanks Mike, didn't figure it would be worth starting a new thread. I found the BFMFT on YouTube, which eventually led me here. Never thought about searching for others on here. Your's looks fantastic as well. Did you use 1/4" on the divider (under the mdf). Also what did you use as trim for it? I don't think I will be pleased with an exposed ply edge.
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