Big job coming up!

[mastercabman]

The day is finally here!!  The cabinets are getting delivered tomorrow.I am leaving around 6 am so that i can get there by 8:30 am.
I am taking my camera and will be taking pics of the job as it progress.

 

[Rembo]

cool! [thumbs up]

 

[mastercabman]

Just got back from the job.Spend 4 days and it's going to take a lot more time to finish this job.
Here's a few pictures of the house i'm working on.

 

[mastercabman]

and more....

 

[mastercabman]

Some pics of the stairway and a room that was wraped in cherry(i did not do)

 

[rnt80]

What a dump.

 

[Kev]

Man - when does the psychic come to install the ghost?

 

[Steve R]

Man - when does the psychic come to install the ghost?

They are still interviewing ghosts.

Cheers,
Steve

 

[rookie08]

What a dump.

LOL!  [big grin]

 

[Vindingo]

You've got to love jobs like this for all of the tradesmen involved, but gosh, talk about more money than taste.  The interior designer needs to be taken out back...

The frieze, dentil molding, corbel thing going on in the that grand staircase room is just bad.  The corbel on the cherry room mantle is also upside down. 

The execution of everything looks like it is top notch though.

 

[Kev]

The corbel on the cherry room mantle is also upside down. 

Zoom snooping eh?

That's the sort of thing that would drive me bonkers after first notice ...

 

[Rembo]

a lot of work! everything is done at the highest level!
How many people did so, and for how long?

 

[mastercabman]

The frieze, dentil molding, corbel thing going on in the that grand staircase room is just bad.
Bad,bad or good bad?  
The corbel on the cherry room mantle is also upside down. 
Don't know if you're right because there are several fireplaces in this house with some have reclaim mantel that is set up the same way.

 

[mastercabman]

a lot of work! everything is done at the highest level!
How many people did so, and for how long?

The house has been under construction for the past 4 years.
The carpenters and painters has been there for 2 years.

 

[Vindingo]

Bad,bad or good bad?  

I could have been more tactful, it isn't my taste.  I guess it struck a strange cord because the craftsmanship, time, and money are apparent, but I don't think the finesse of the designer is commensurate with that of the craftsmen.   

Don't know if you're right because there are several fireplaces in this house with some have reclaim mantel that is set up the same way.

That trim piece mimics a corbel, the fat part on the bottom makes it look upside down.  Sure it is "right" if the designer wants it that way, but its untruthful structure makes it visually displeasing. 

 

[mastercabman]

That trim piece mimics a corbel, the fat part on the bottom makes it look upside down.  Sure it is "right" if the designer wants it that way, but its untruthful structure makes it visually displeasing. 

I will ask the carpenter when i go back on monday.But i don't think those are actually called "corbel"  I have seen this design before,can't recall where,but i believe it is set the right way.
I will try to do more research on this.

 

[Kev]

That trim piece mimics a corbel, the fat part on the bottom makes it look upside down.  Sure it is "right" if the designer wants it that way, but its untruthful structure makes it visually displeasing. 

I will ask the carpenter when i go back on monday.But i don't think those are actually called "corbel"  I have seen this design before,can't recall where,but i believe it is set the right way.
I will try to do more research on this.

I'm inclined to side with Vindingo - regardless of the intent, it looks like a corbel accent upside down.

Corbels are supports and the designs vary - you'll often see very artistic corbels with animal heads, etc. This is very common corbel design ...

http://www.corbels.com/corbels-and-brackets/traditional-corbels/7-w-x-3-1-2-d-x-11-h-traditional-leaf-corbel.html

 

[tiralie]

Don't know if you're right because there are several fireplaces in this house with some have reclaim mantel that is set up the same way.

That trim piece mimics a corbel, the fat part on the bottom makes it look upside down.  Sure it is "right" if the designer wants it that way, but its untruthful structure makes it visually displeasing. 

Great discussion. I believe that those "scrolls" are not corbels but brackets.
It is somewhat semantic but it does change the design intent. The bracket is
To my eye (research) this is a federal design and mimics a federal newel post found in The Elements of Style: An Encyclopedia of Domestic Architectural Detail
The profile and some of the rest of the molding detail seems quite close to rooms in the Winterhur house.
While I am still not sure if it is right of wrong, there seems to be some precedent for the design and profile.
Here is a link to a discussion on JLC about the differences between corbels and brackets
Tim

 

[Vindingo]

Great discussion. I believe that those "scrolls" are not corbels but brackets.
It is somewhat semantic but it does change the design intent. The bracket is
To my eye (research) this is a federal design and mimics a federal newel post found in The Elements of Style: An Encyclopedia of Domestic Architectural Detail
The profile and some of the rest of the molding detail seems quite close to rooms in the Winterhur house.
While I am still not sure if it is right of wrong, there seems to be some precedent for the design and profile.
Here is a link to a discussion on JLC about the differences between corbels and brackets
Tim

That is an interesting thread on JLC.  I'm not sure it matters if it is called a corbel or bracket.  In the case of the newel post, it touches the ground so it can function differently.  
Jay House newel post

Winterthur house fireplace (snagged the photo from http://www.winterthur.org/?p=805)

not one fireplace in that house has an upsidedown scroll, bracket, corbel, modillion (learned that one from the JLC link)  It serves a different function when attached to a wall.  

Sorry for hijacking your thread mastercabman, if you would prefer to take the discussion to a different section of the forum I will remove my posts.  

 

[mastercabman]

Great discussion. I believe that those "scrolls" are not corbels but brackets.
It is somewhat semantic but it does change the design intent. The bracket is
To my eye (research) this is a federal design and mimics a federal newel post found in The Elements of Style: An Encyclopedia of Domestic Architectural Detail
The profile and some of the rest of the molding detail seems quite close to rooms in the Winterhur house.
While I am still not sure if it is right of wrong, there seems to be some precedent for the design and profile.
Here is a link to a discussion on JLC about the differences between corbels and brackets
Tim

That is an interesting thread on JLC.  I'm not sure it matters if it is called a corbel or bracket.  In the case of the newel post, it touches the ground so it can function differently.  
Jay House newel post

Winterthur house fireplace (snagged the photo from http://www.winterthur.org/?p=805)

not one fireplace in that house has an upsidedown scroll, bracket, corbel, modillion (learned that one from the JLC link)  It serves a different function when attached to a wall.  

Sorry for hijacking your thread mastercabman, if you would prefer to take the discussion to a different section of the forum I will remove my posts.  

Not at all!    I think this is very interesting.I do believe that what we are talking about is a "scroll" not a "corbel" and as mentioned by Tim,it is most likely a Federal  style and i have seen this scroll design before and it is set the way it suppose to be.
You may find it a little weird looking,but for me,......well i do like it.
BTW that room in the picture that i showed is my favorite room in that house.
Still has a lot of work to be done and i can't wait to see the end result.